rowlandw: Google's Picasa. Free, fast, and direct upload of images to the PicasaWeb cloud.
Besides speed, Picasa has one of the best photo rendering engines around. Comparing its JPG and NEX/NX RAW renditions vs. LR5 on AdobeRGB displays (lab references 4-9Mpix), i wonder how could Adobe get away with that kind of IQ and speed? For image mgnt. and basic ops (crop etc.) i'll stay w/ Picasa, despite my arguable waste of $$ on Adobe linceses.
HopeSpringsEternal: Despite the large gamut support, I'm not impressed with the pricing. By now these companies should be selling 4K 30-36" large gamut monitors for $2,000 or less given the large profits they have made these last ten years selling practically the same old 30" monitors.
More than twelve years ago, IBM was selling a much higher resolution 22" monitor.
Where is the innovation for larger , hires computer displays??!
Agreed: The hires display field has stagnated for 15+ yrs. My colleagues have developed the IBM 22" 4K LCD in the mid'90s. Had sub-niche markets (science, medical), despite cards and PCs that could drive it...
The main market and its opinion leaders (reviewers, pundits, analysts) were not interested or educated enough. Ditto w/ OLED.
Now: I have some of the best 30" Eizo/HP/Dell screens, some exceed 115% AdobeRGB (e.g., ZR30w) . Too non-uniform, jagged (at 50+ i appreciate over 300dpi @ 0.5m), shallow blacks (IPS gray), big, and too bright (by necessity).
I'm looking forth to 4k aRGB AMOLEDs of 22-24", ideal size for having 2-3 displays (my Lenovo w530 can drive 5), also in portrait mode. itch
Retzius: Me thinks that this is made for the Chinese market (largest and fastest growing market). Small camera for tiny little female Chinese hands.
Most of them 'tiny little female Chinese hands' might actually exceed in strength and endurance our expectations... still plenty of hard work there. Hence my respect.
marcio_napoli: Under the risk of showing extreme levels of ignorance about the subject, I really don´t get this small DSLR quest.
- If you wanna be discreet (for street photography or whatever), this won´t do. It´s all about the form factor, not size of things. If this ressembles a DSLR, you will still look like a Paparazzi, although one with small camera.
- if you wanna good IQ at a small package, there´re lots of choices already: Leica, EOS M, Coolpix A, a bunch of Sony Nex, Sigma DP, P&S, whatever.
- you mind about fewer grams, time to gain some muscle. A girl can hold a 1 kg camera all day long. Besides, whatever lens you use, it will weight more than the camera, so what´s the point of saving 90 grams on the body? As I said, time to enter a gym.
- all this little cameras do is present really bad ergonomics. I have a GH2, which is the best VIDEO camera I´ve ever had, but at the same time, the worst ergonomics of all time.
- if you wanna a toy, there´re better choices in the wild already
Every gram counts. It's not muscle, but skeleton: neck, back, hip and knee joints and the cartilage therein. That's the damage accrued in time, as most pros and serious enthusiasts tell.
Finally a canon step in the right direction: Compete in size and IQ! Though i'm partial to mirrorless for portability and FF dSLR for IQ, there's a niche for small dSLR...
Just think a 1-lb dSLR w/ pancake and 1500shots/charge and OVF (however arguable tunnel), and the usual benefits of a quiet sensor (not always running hot in LiveView mode) etc...
NZ Scott: A great article with lots of fascinating insights. The interviewer did a good job preparing his/her questions. I would like to see more articles like this.
I find it interesting that, when these guys are talking about their fancy new cameras, neither of them mentions image quality much. Both men are generally much more concerned about focusing speed, ergonomics and workflow. Something for all of us to remember as we argue about which sensor produces slightly less noise at ISO 3200.
A note for Dpreview: Please stop using exclamation marks in your articles. I saw four in this piece. It is unprofessional and looks childish. No serious publication allows exclamation marks to creep into their copy. I realise that the two men were probably interviewed by email, but you do have the power to edit the punctuation in their comments.
What is unprofessional about the moderate use exclamation marks? While i would not use them normally in research papers, they remain useful punctuation marks.
nawknai: This is like a rich guy suggesting that poor people just earn more money.
I grew up in the 'burbs.
I live in the city now, so I can try some street photography, but landscape photography is on hold until my next vacation.
Lajos: I very much enjoyed your compositions fromhttp://www.pbase.com/laja30/inbox Kudos!
However, your proposal to drive a few hours for those shots is hardly feasible for many of us (working long hours and WEs, with demanding families etc.). Also means not having much choice of light and meteo, as i do in my backyard where i can shoot in pijamas just before sunrise, e.g., https://picasaweb.google.com/104896643939448365565/OurVeryBestSwissFall?noredirect=1https://picasaweb.google.com/mgusat/MistyAlbiswald?noredirect=1
Net: Carsten is privileged to call that place home! And so am I on Albispass (except my missing photog skills). Mitch
I'm still partial to Google, yet after trying multiple times i strongly reject social notworking, starting w/ FB.
For fairness, i've also tried G+ twice, perhaps it'd be less intrusive, more discreet etc. Failed, ditto for the Picasa over G+: My 50+ albums became a slow, complex exercise in futile social sharing (not sure why FB/G+ think this privacy intrusion time waste is actually so great?).
Net on Picasa albums: I already had them shared, quick and easy before G+, which made it worse and slower. Went back and removed all my G+ stuff. At least i tried. Twice. I failed to perceive the value of sharing against my will (must opt-out) and adding complexity to what was simple and fast. Mitch
Like Canon's, another uninspiring metoo - one that may eventually sell at >50% discounts.
More constructively: In stead of entering 3 yrs later on busy mirrorless markets --already dominated by Sony, Oly, Panny, Samsung, Fuji-- IMHO Canikon would do better by shrinking their FX dSLRs (except the pro range).
I, like many others, still have a stale budget awaiting for <1-lb. FF bodies w/ OVF. The mirror can be vastly reduced in size (e.g. divided). Or just use EVFs better than NEX7's. But don't assume that 95% of the market are pros, people who drive to their shooting site, or that a big lens requires a big body to balance (no scope is balanced then)...
good composition of a well-known location... and the color gradations are special, i wonder whether due to the Merrill, or PPS?
Peksu: Although it seems to be just updates for lenses I'm not interested in, the NEX-C3 (and F3, if it doesn't have the same support) better get the same update in time. It's the same generation as 5N.
Edit: Ok, if it's just lens corrections, I guess they don't have that. My bad. I heard someone say that it also gives 5N better bracketing, is that so? If so, that better be coming.
ditto: In stead of the 'popular' 5N (better UI), i bought the C3 for its size and arguably equal or better noise above ISO 200. Why would this lower ranking NEX model be abandoned by Sony?
JEROME NOLAS: What about a camera with fixed zoom (like Canon G1X) but smaller, 24-72mm, f2.8-4.0? The only reason I didn't buy it is because I consider it still "fat". Anyone interested in a camera like this?
+1, but w/ a faster lens
mpgxsvcd: Wow, I can't believe the number of manufactures willing to issue statements like this lately. He sounds almost scatterbrained. Like they don't have a clue what we want.
I will tell him what we want. We want 1 small Jacket pocket-able camera with a built-in rangefinder style EVF. It should have all of the internals of the Olympus OMD EM5 including their excellent image stabilization. If Panasonic won't make this camera then Olympus will.
Next we want the GH3 with focus peaking and an EVF that doesn't ghost. We also want an upper and lower shutter speed limit for Auto ISO and Auto ISO should work in manual mode as well. It is as simple as that.
If they produce those two cameras then they will absolutely corner the market. From the sounds of the article I don't think either one of those cameras will come from Panasonic this year.
Check out this video for more information on the GH3.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIMdxoGbNXU
GH3 EVF issuehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqteueoRRf4
Actually i must agree w/ the OP: Lots of my friends (non-photogs) want precisely that <200gr high IQ P&S! Personally i want Fuji's OVF, bt w/o the size and price tag of a niche product :-).
Refreshingly candid, thank you!Indeed, selling IQ to consumers who never print big and have low res 2k / low quality (non-AdobeRGB) screens is tough. The 4K AMOLEDs and PJs are not even near the 1K$ threshold to make a difference yet. However, people notice the noise in low light shots and don't like it...
P.S. Please kindly use standard batteries and also allow cheap 3rd parties in your ecosystem. This, not the sensor size, is the #1 ethical reason why i still refuse to buy your otherwise attractive cameras.
mpgxsvcd: It is telling that no one else has commented yet. No one really cares what Casio's strategy is.
that's a tad harsh for a company that indeed can claim some innovation and still one of the fastest in fps rate cameras ever made... However, i admit to not using a Casio camera yet.
Makes most sense iff integrated within the u-lens, to also compensate for the incident angle delta (center - edge). But it's a lab prototype, not mass product yet.
read also the Oly interview just posted!
We may speculate and be frustrated (i'm), yet Maeda-san knows his business.1) FF dSLR (big for pros, Rebel-sized for enthusiasts) is a solid niche with its large glass. FF glass seems safe investment, though bulky.2) 1/2.3" superzooms also have a market beyond travel, see luminous-landscape. Personally i don't see their use other than macro.3) Endangered species are the entry P&S (extincted by phones) and the APS dSLRs (arguably terminated by u43, NEX and NX... long argument on handling, markets will decide)
Next BIG thing: There's no clear winner in the sensor size for ILCs and premium P&S, until one ideal lens&sensor form factor emerges clearly ahead. The race is open between 2/3, 1", u43, APS-C and perhaps a new standard. My beloved 1/1.7" is neither small, nor large, enough to qualify. Sensor + Lens = form factor.
Mrrowe8: These comments reflect canons notoriously slow movement as a company to reinvent its products .. Sadly its smacks of what American auto makers did and then act surprised they lost huge market share ... If they where smart they would offer to partner with Apple or Samsung to build the ideal "camera phone " notice the word camera is 1st .. Not a phone with a camera ..and sadly when read his refusal to make a full frame g camera means I guess I am buying the Sony and continue my switch to Nikon & by the way I am not a nikon or canon guy I am a who makes the best image making product kinda guy , hence my loss market share comment and I suspect most real consumers r like me
I work for IBM, though not a Japanese company :-).A company the size of Canon can and will not change course like a startup; they can't discard their P&S, Rebels and dSLRs over night, even if they may actually want it... :-)
I believe that Canon has contributed plenty until perhaps the introduction of 5D; 1st... CMOS sensor in mass production, dSLR under 1K, FF dSLR under 3K etc. Open RAW (not encrypted channel as Nikon at the time), large mounts etc.
Their sensor fabs ... being left 2+ generations behind in a very costly business means you may have to make drastic changes or move out. IBM did just that a few times already, after having invented the HDD, the PC, the hi-res LCD/AMOLED... and will do it again. Ditto for Canon and their sensor fab. So what? Plenty of OEM's and Nikon has no qualms using them.
But i wish Canon came w/ true competitors to Fuji and Sony (not to mention u43 and Samsung), cameras that can beat the RX100 and RX1 in size, function and IQ.
TheDman: I don't see what he said that is so terrible. Everything made sense to me.
we'd expect innovation and roadmap, not more 2-lb+ clunkers (yes a FF Rebel was possible long ago, but Sony didn't have yet the sensor), superzooms and 16-20Mpix 1/2.3" toys
mpgxsvcd: "Ooops, did I just say that out loud". It is just like when you send a bad joke email to someone and accidentally hit reply to all. I bet this guy wishes he could just recall this press release.
partly right, see Lytro :-)(albeit i can't yet see its use out of an industrial lab)