There are several vocal Samsung supporters around (like HowaboutRAW), but unfortunately for Samsung most of them don't want to put their money where their mouth is. A lot of talking, little action.
The results in the last few categories should serve as a wake up call to Canon & Nikon. Although a similar message will come through the market share results at the end of this quarter from different markets, but mainly Asia and Europe.
Everlast66: A fair review. In terms of performance the A6000 nearly caught up with the DSLRs in this category.At the same time A6000 offers several strategic advantages that are very important in this ENTHUSIAST category (and DSLRs don't have).
- compact and discrete so one can use more often and in more locations, very important for enthusiasts. Yes, hte majority of lenses are big, but you can make it compact when you want to;
- short flange distance that allows experimentation with legacy glass, any focal length or aperture, even rangefinder glass;
- modern mirrorless technology and EVF - you see the effect of changes instantly, best for learning and experimentation, focus peaking, no mirror slap, no issues with AF sensor calibration, etc;
A lot of potential to grow it, you can even get native Zeiss lenses with AF (Touit and Batis).
Actually, I don't see why anyone would buy a DSLR in this category.
@KeithI just thought it is unfair to criticise this APSC camera (A6000) for not being balanced with a full frame lens, especially since Sony invested the time and resources to develop a 'crop' tele zoom that balances much nicely and I've seen very positive comments about its quality (although some variation between copies).
@VadimsWhen I said 'performance' I meant only several areas concerning speed of operation. Perhaps I should have been more specific, I meant things like, start up time (I prefer switching off my camera and don't use standby), camera responsiveness, AF acquisition.
All other areas mirror-less cameras, especially in this class, completely outperform DSLRs, and some features give you strategic advantages that are unbeatable.
I should also mention that this is how I 'REMEMBER' DSLRs, because to be fair I haven't used a DSLR in 4 years. I sold my last ones (Nikon & Pentax) about 4 years ago haven't bought DSLRs since then.
Why are you missing the native E-mount 55-210 f4.5-6.3 that is designed for the APSC E-mount cameras and balances much better on the A6000 ?
It is a bit slower than the full frame 70-200 f/4, but only 1/8th of a stop at the widest and 1/2 stop at the longest and has a slightly longer reach.
I doubt you can get a more compact/discrete combo with a DSLR.
Keeping in mind that long tele is the area where A6000 is least competitive in comparison to DSLRs, I think it does extremely well.
A fair review. In terms of performance the A6000 nearly caught up with the DSLRs in this category.At the same time A6000 offers several strategic advantages that are very important in this ENTHUSIAST category (and DSLRs don't have).
CameraLabTester: Ever experienced how hard it is to convince a person to wear 3D glasses to watch a 3D image captured by a simple pocket 3D camera?
How about trying to convince a person to wear a gear, 10 to 20 times the volume, weight and complexity of a simple 3D eyewear?
Good luck with that.
@Everythingis1No way. VR has a decent chance in computer gaming, science, 3D design/modelling, remote (drone/machine) exploration, but mass television - not a chance!
Everythingis1: This tech will be ubiquitous in 10 years.
... or maybe not! Do you pretend to be Steve Jobs or something?
More likely to flop as 3D television did.
Everlast66: It looks like they continue their fruitless and stubborn search for a PROBLEM for their solution!
In the real market this can only lead to one thing - repeated loss of their investors' money.
First they had two unsuccessful attempts in the stills camera business, now it is video, next is, maybe, self-driving-cars, and on and on ...
I am totally for innovation, but their approach is wrong!They basically found about the interesting light-filed technology, that's been around since 1930s and are trying to find a problem for it.
They come up with a product, present it as rosy as possible, bordering with deception, e.g. '40 megaray' marketting of their latest camera, keep try to hide away shortcomings like appalling image quality (low res and simulated bokeh), then raise money from some unfortunate investors and spend them. Then they move on to the next thing.
Jack Simpson: I've had the coolpix P900 since the end of May and, as well as, shooting moons, it's great for shooting concerts and sporting events :)
So P900 needs a lot of light and has a huge reach so maybe it is targeted at ... nudist beaches
It looks like they continue their fruitless and stubborn search for a PROBLEM for their solution!
Now Hasselblad is going to be rebranded as Hassel-blade :)
PhotoKhan: I know everybody finds Canon M line lacking but is there any other possible reason why you decided to leave the M10 out?The 15-45 kit combo offer costs exactly $499...That's as "around" $500 as it can be.
Then, probably the Canon M10 does not stand a chance and they didn't want to waste space and people's time reading about it. Not a bad idea.
Pandimonium: No DLRS. Just change the title then to mirrorless ILC's without a VF. There are no dslr's without a VF. And why are there two Nikons with tiny sensors and no Pentax Q :p and no EOS M-3.
Maybe it's common sense then!
DSLRs are so outdated these days, that when you say 'camera' nobody thinks about bloated plastic balloons with flapping mirrors inside.
Secondly, when you look at the title it says '2015 Roundup' right?Any entry level DSLRs announced by Canon, Nikon in 2015 in this price range ?!?
Which DSLR, they're all out of this category because of obsolete mirror, prism and OVF make them too expensive, even for the cheapest ones ?!?
MSRPs:Canon EOS Rebel T5 kit $550Canon EOS Rebel T5i kit $800Nikon D3300 kit $650
The MSRP of Canon M10 kit is $599 !!!
These round-ups are based on MSRP because these are the only 'official' prices and it would be difficult to base on street prices since there are so many retailers and all have different prices.
EduardoKleinFichtner: Sony is amazing. Period.
Even better.I always thought that the sensor business profit is included in the above profit, but apparently it comes under "Devices" segment which is also profitable and rose as well.
Devices segment (sensors, batteries, recording media)Operating profit increased 15% from 20 to 25.9 billion yen
Imaging Products & Solutions segment (stills & video cameras, lenses, broadcasting)Operating profit increased 28% from 28 to 32.7 billion yen
Isn't it a bit stupid to say Sony's imaging division is losing money two days after they announced their 2015 Q2 results showing increase in profit of "Imaging Products & Solutions" by roughly 25% year-over-year!The division was profitable in Q1 2015 as well, and also the whole of 2014.
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AksCT: I just looked the test shots compared with Sony a7rII, across multiple regions and ISOs.Makes you wonder what Leica was thinking (Re: image quality)!!
The E-mount is also modern, no levers, screw driven couplings, etc. only 10 electronic contacts.I agree Canon and Nikon should have already started to build new mirror-less systems, because it would take them time to populate them and they are already 4-5 years behind Sony and now Leica. (I didn't mention Samsung, Fuji or m43 systems because I was referring full frame only).
Some people argue that if Canon and Nikon start making mirror-less cameras they should keep their current mounts, but I think this is not a good idea because they would not be able to take full advantage of not having mirror-box. It's not only the space and weight saving, but also the limitations for wide angle lens designs, the mount complexity with all legacy mechanisms, etc.
Digimat: leica should really fix the banding issue, a camera with banding is basically useless when pushing the files, because its a pain to remove. the files look a lot likle out of a 5D Mark II...which is 2008 tech. not so good when you want to sell a camera+lens system for the price of a compact car.
He didn't, he was busy defending Leica in this thread at 5 posts per minute.
Open your eyes, HowaboutRaw, and accept the facts, it's not good!