sj2: Lots of opinions and lots of people seem to think a camera should be everything to all people. No one camera will ever do that. It is a tool with specific application in mind.
To my mind, unless you are new in the market and have no lens/system, comparison with other brands makes little sense. I have been down the path of owing two systems and did not work.
Lenses are the real investment so to me, makes sense to build a good lens line-up that you enjoy working with. Then fit bodies around your lenses. And that what I like about this little fella.
I can pack it in my bag with the primary Canon dSLR body and lens and when I don't want to lug around the primary body, this little guy comes out and does the job.
Going to sell my m4/3 body and lens now. m4/3 vendors have simply wasted too much time with mediocre lens. If you are new buyer with no existing setup then Sony and Pentax seem like good alternatives except Sony's lack of lens. Nikon with a sub-APSC is a competition?
Seriously? M4/3 have wasted too much time with mediocre lenses?? What about the Oly 45mm/1.8? The Oly 75/1.8 which is described by multiple multiple reviewers are nearly optically perfect? How about the Panny/Leica 25mm/1.4 which is universally highly regarded? Also the Panny 20/1.7 and Oly 12/2 are great lenses. In fact m4/3 lens lineup is light years ahead of every other manufacturer's lineups. Plus they are smaller and lighter (and generally cheaper) than Sony or Pentax's marginal lineups. You are basing your decision based on vapor lenses that haven't even been released or reviewed! M4/3 isn't perfect but one thing is does have is a stable of quality glass! And don't tell me you are basing your decision based on legacy lenses. Wait until you try to pair your huge tele lens *with* adaptor with that tiny body. Good luck on the balance with that.
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Posted on Jul 24, 2012 at 00:47:14 UTC
@marike6 Seems like DPR disagrees with you. They LIKE the E-M5. I mean, really like it. Enough to give it a Gold award. So you don't like it. We get it. We care about DPR's opinion. Yours? Not so much.
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Posted on Apr 30, 2012 at 21:59:22 UTC
ffs i hope the rest of the science behind the camera is slightly more intelligent.
I was thinking the same thing. It's really stabilization in translation about X and Y direction with rotational stabilization about X,Y, and Z axis. I guess the "5-axis" thing is the best way to market it.
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Posted on Apr 30, 2012 at 21:32:03 UTC
Peiasdf: Being reading DP for six, seven years and this is the only time I think the review is unbalanced.
I have never heard to anyone say, "I am buying an EVIL/mirrorless camera. Let's compare E-M5 and 60D/1100D". Why wasn't E-M5 compared and contrasted with NEX-5/7 and X-Pro1? Maybe you should consider redo the top-down size comparison and EVF size with A37, NEX-5/7 and X-Pro1.
The IQ review is also questionable. I can clearly see the NEXs perform better and I have no doubt the X-Pro1 that DP has in office is doing just as well. (Why isn't X-Pro1 reviewed yet? It is available a month before E-M5)
I don't know about the DR chart. The SONY 24mp sensor has the highest DR of any APS-C sensor and if I am reading the chart right, E-M5 have greater range.
The (perceived) lack of DR is significant for perseverating trolls, like yourself. For the rest of us, not so much. Go away.
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Posted on Apr 30, 2012 at 20:56:26 UTC
Ben O Connor: I seriously wish that, OM-D would have built in flash ! I would bothered to carry "must" accessory seperately all time :(
Even this alone, i would go for NEX-7
I agree to have a built in flash would be nice. Something has to go on these compact systems, unfortunately. Could you not just attach the flash to the hotshoe (aka "accessory port 2") and leave it there by default? That way you don't have to "carry a must accessory separately". It would be a shame to choose the NEX-7 over this camera because of that. Or for really any other reason, really. Just a suggestion.
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Posted on Apr 9, 2012 at 18:51:39 UTC
agray88: Nice IQ, to be sure. But all things considered, I'll take the Oly E-M5 and buy another prime lens with the leftover $$. I just don't get why such an expensive camera would have focus issues. I'll take the Oly and be very happy, thank you.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
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Posted on Apr 5, 2012 at 02:14:23 UTC
Nice IQ, to be sure. But all things considered, I'll take the Oly E-M5 and buy another prime lens with the leftover $$. I just don't get why such an expensive camera would have focus issues. I'll take the Oly and be very happy, thank you.
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Posted on Apr 4, 2012 at 19:21:21 UTC
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sj2: Lots of opinions and lots of people seem to think a camera should be everything to all people. No one camera will ever do that. It is a tool with specific application in mind.
To my mind, unless you are new in the market and have no lens/system, comparison with other brands makes little sense. I have been down the path of owing two systems and did not work.
Lenses are the real investment so to me, makes sense to build a good lens line-up that you enjoy working with. Then fit bodies around your lenses. And that what I like about this little fella.
I can pack it in my bag with the primary Canon dSLR body and lens and when I don't want to lug around the primary body, this little guy comes out and does the job.
Going to sell my m4/3 body and lens now. m4/3 vendors have simply wasted too much time with mediocre lens. If you are new buyer with no existing setup then Sony and Pentax seem like good alternatives except Sony's lack of lens. Nikon with a sub-APSC is a competition?
Seriously? M4/3 have wasted too much time with mediocre lenses?? What about the Oly 45mm/1.8? The Oly 75/1.8 which is described by multiple multiple reviewers are nearly optically perfect? How about the Panny/Leica 25mm/1.4 which is universally highly regarded? Also the Panny 20/1.7 and Oly 12/2 are great lenses. In fact m4/3 lens lineup is light years ahead of every other manufacturer's lineups. Plus they are smaller and lighter (and generally cheaper) than Sony or Pentax's marginal lineups. You are basing your decision based on vapor lenses that haven't even been released or reviewed! M4/3 isn't perfect but one thing is does have is a stable of quality glass! And don't tell me you are basing your decision based on legacy lenses. Wait until you try to pair your huge tele lens *with* adaptor with that tiny body. Good luck on the balance with that.
Jokica: Canon, wake up!
@marike6
Seems like DPR disagrees with you. They LIKE the E-M5. I mean, really like it. Enough to give it a Gold award. So you don't like it. We get it. We care about DPR's opinion. Yours? Not so much.
djec: "'5-axis' image stabilization system"?!
ffs i hope the rest of the science behind the camera is slightly more intelligent.
I was thinking the same thing. It's really stabilization in translation about X and Y direction with rotational stabilization about X,Y, and Z axis. I guess the "5-axis" thing is the best way to market it.
Peiasdf: Being reading DP for six, seven years and this is the only time I think the review is unbalanced.
I have never heard to anyone say, "I am buying an EVIL/mirrorless camera. Let's compare E-M5 and 60D/1100D". Why wasn't E-M5 compared and contrasted with NEX-5/7 and X-Pro1? Maybe you should consider redo the top-down size comparison and EVF size with A37, NEX-5/7 and X-Pro1.
The IQ review is also questionable. I can clearly see the NEXs perform better and I have no doubt the X-Pro1 that DP has in office is doing just as well. (Why isn't X-Pro1 reviewed yet? It is available a month before E-M5)
I don't know about the DR chart. The SONY 24mp sensor has the highest DR of any APS-C sensor and if I am reading the chart right, E-M5 have greater range.
The (perceived) lack of DR is significant for perseverating trolls, like yourself. For the rest of us, not so much. Go away.
Ben O Connor: I seriously wish that, OM-D would have built in flash ! I would bothered to carry "must" accessory seperately all time :(
Even this alone, i would go for NEX-7
I agree to have a built in flash would be nice. Something has to go on these compact systems, unfortunately. Could you not just attach the flash to the hotshoe (aka "accessory port 2") and leave it there by default? That way you don't have to "carry a must accessory separately". It would be a shame to choose the NEX-7 over this camera because of that. Or for really any other reason, really. Just a suggestion.
Any idea when the full review will be complete? Anxiously waiting here!
agray88: Nice IQ, to be sure. But all things considered, I'll take the Oly E-M5 and buy another prime lens with the leftover $$. I just don't get why such an expensive camera would have focus issues. I'll take the Oly and be very happy, thank you.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
Nice IQ, to be sure. But all things considered, I'll take the Oly E-M5 and buy another prime lens with the leftover $$. I just don't get why such an expensive camera would have focus issues. I'll take the Oly and be very happy, thank you.
tbower: That's really pushing it for a 4/3 sensor. These results are better than expected in my opinion.
Agreed. Excellent low light performance for a micro 4/3.