I just have decided to buy a Pana GM1 with a 12-32 lens for 685$ new, the colored versions cost 715$. I think that I will get somewhat more camera for my money than this overpriced Rx100-3, and, it's smaller.
chj: Does Sony not know how to make a touchscreen? Otherwise this looks to be an ideal street camera.
if I want touchscreen operation I use my cellphone. Pray God that this camera will never get one.
disraeli demon: There's a sort of Holy-Trinity-plus-one of features that I've been looking for in a compact for years: fast performance, fast lens, hot shoe, articulated (or at least fold-out) screen. Canon's G-line were missing the fast lens, but when they finally added that they dumped the articulated screen. Samsung had all the hardware features but the performance was too slow. Sony add the fold-out screen but take away the hot shoe.
Are these guys deliberately teasing me?
The fully articulated screen will remain a dream, I dream of this option for the top NEX cameras since they exist, I was interested in A58 when it came out, when I saw that they dropped the fully articulated screen, I forgot it. This is also what made me drop my interest for the A7 seires. An invertable screen that can be used as a simple plastic cover on the rear is for me a must. Nikon did the same when they issued 7000 series, the advantage of fully articulated screen they had on 5000 series was just gone. 5000 series where out of question since they have no lens motor.
All NEX screens are blurred and affected by cloth and body friction and sweat moisture after just 1 year and you have to change them. I have a 3 year full warranty on mine and I asked Sony to change the screen twice, and they did it without any discussion or questions.
reginalddwight: I like that Sony plans to continue production of the RX100 Mark I and II despite the imminent release of the Mark III. Great for the consumer to have choices.
Based on information from the company's YouTube video, the price points will soon be $799, $649, $499 for the different iterations.
I am nearly ready to have Sony take my money!
Then go ahead and buy one, it's 465$ new in Taiwan, shipping is free.
obayedh: "we're a little worried that it might be another great camera that we just can't love"
We all know dp can't love Sony cameras! It's an open secret, isn't it!!?
they have an add on grip with double sided 3m tape, it's an accessory.
Neal Hood: I don't like the slight increase in weight and thickness but, I sure do like the new features. The lens tradeoff is a good one, as cropping in Raw provides just about all the typical telephoto effect desired. The pictures on my RX 100 gen 1 look excellent, and no doubt they are even better on the new model. I stick the camera in my pocket and go everywhere. Put it in my jersey pocket on the bike and it works great. I guess the only additional feature that would be nice is weather proofing, at least to some degree. Pictures come out considerably better than on my S110 Canon.
it's not silent, look through the comments how much noise it makes.
any source for European pre-order? Amazon.de, unlike amazon.com, doesn't list it - and, needless to say, the latter doesn't ship to Europe. No mention on it on Expansys either.
I want to get this before the holiday starts (01/Jul).
Sami Abuauad: Ricoh GR.
that is right, but cheaper, apsc sensor and much better IQ, and a good fixed focal lens. For sure, a VF would make it the perfect camera, but then, some would say no zoom, but that's life. Anyway, if I had the choice between a GR and this one, considering the price and how much camera i get for that price, I would buy an A6000. No, no, you read correctly, I would buy none of the both, for 850$ I get a much better camera from Sony.
Alphoid: Seems like another home run. Sadly, not quite worth the upgrade for me. There's a half dozen possible ifs that would push it over, but most likely, I'll go for the IV. If Sony can keep up this momentum, it'll be hard to resist whatever that upgrade will bring.
If it was a few hundred less, I'd do it. If it had a mike input and audio levels, it'd replace carrying video equipment. I'd do it. (I'm especially excited by this with the full frame readout)
You should say that Sony keeps this one high in price to protect the sales of previous models. The fact that you can still buy the first RX100 new in shops, is a prove how good it sold. The Mk2 will be available for at least 2 years more, if not longer, new, the price makes them stuck in stores. And this one will be the same, when all wanna get, and need this absolutely fan boys are served, they sit on them, like the previous models. Sell them cheaper, at a correct pricing and they sell like candy. The store where I buy sold 1 of the 3 RX100 he had in stock, and he never took the Mk2, only on order, it doesn't sells since those people that those small tourist cameras target, find it too expensive. Now that the first model dropped 150$ in pricing he still doesn't sells them, since now it is the old model what is the reason. The camera is huge, it has all one experienced photographer needs to make a companion camera for the bigger guns, but, not at that price, sorry Sony.
Calvin Chann: To all those posters who post saying no EVF no sale. Well here you are!
But I'm sure you'll find something else to stop you buying it.
yes, the price is too high, even if now it has what we look for.
utomo99: The biggest problem is: the Price is too expensive. Many people did not willing to pay for expensive compact camera. Max 600 maybe still ok
I bet it will only sell like hotcakes in the first days when all the wanna have and must have boys are served, after that it will wait for customers. Some pay just any price for just anything, that is what those gadgets are lade for. Those with knowhow and experience see what the real value is and they will think twice before paying the same price that can make you happy with an A6000 that cost just a 50$ more and has ILS. At 550, maybe 600$ it's fairly priced.
kona_moon: f/1.8-2.8 sounds impressive, but when you look at the plot of equivalent f-stop for the entire zoom range, it is almost a constant f/2.8 from 30mm up. Still, tempting.
what new sensor?
Ridethelight: Strange comments on this camera, complaints about the short zoom 70mm vs 100mm , this is nothing a half decent photographer would not easily adapt to.Lack of hot shoe ? really , how stupid would a flash gun twice the size of the camera look.It has a EVF , built in ND filter and faster lens, what's not to love here ? maybe the price.
only the price, unfortunately
1500$ for a Tokina, you're kiddin' I suppose.
AbrasiveReducer: When the test reports appear, I'll go straight to the 24mm setting. If the corners are sharp, I'll buy one.
that is a mk2 shot, despite the guy said it was mk3 on SAR site. But the Mk3 will probably be as noisy, and for the corner sharpness, we will wait the first shots to appear
wlad: anyone seen Canikon ? are they still around ?
right, nikon released a J4 and S2 lately....
don't forget Nikon with the D4S .... sic
and for Christmas we will get it for 1900$, so let's wait that few month, we will not die until there, at least i do not expect to.
tuerta photography: Very nice, but at that price I'd have to liquidate my lens collection just to afford that body. I was hoping it was going to be priced under the a7R
There is no secret and no magick, reduce pixel amounts and make the pixels bigger and you get more light into them, but, every single recorded pixel look more rough and with less resolved detail. This camera will do double sized D70/D40 pictures with the dynamic advantage of the FF sensor, nothing more, nothing less. Look at DF shots in full size and you just cry when it comes to detail, and that one has 16 mpix. 7 years ago, you had been delighted, but today where we know what a 24 and 36 mpix sensor in FF can resolve and give us, it is just an insult to come with a 12 mpix one, except for video and that is what this camera targets.
All is just a question of point of view. For someone that is in video, it is a bad compromise to a full pro video camera, it is a good compromise if one considers the price compared to a full pro video camera and the low light ability in this matter.
For stills it is just a flop, the good old reworked D700 sensor with his D70 resolution and FF dynamics, that can serve for nice downsized shots at low light. For that price, it is too expensive, starts noising at 6500 iso just like any sensor, loses details at 3200 iso, like any sensor, and depends on good software cheats to make a good impression at 12500 iso.
Just a Photographer: Pretty expensive considering the fact that you need an external 4k recorder to be able to use this camera to its full.
all good, but somewhat expensive for a simple software update and a plug to plugin an external recorder. To me it had to be lower in price than A7R, maybe somewhat more expensive than A7. The speculated price equivalent to GH4 pricing had made it a hit, despite it can't record 4k internal, GH4 can. So, all Sony announcements for this week end are a kick in the butt in my point of view.