After having photo cameras that shoot video, we have now a video camera that can shoot photos. How deep we have fallen in the last years. Maybe in a few years it will include a coffee maker, a phone and a TV modulator.
2 mpix for picture ridiculous, for video in FF a step forward. For those who dream of the 500 000 iso clean shot, they are served now. It is just sad, and understandable, that this high iso shooting folly is made on the expense of resolution. 12 mpix is ridiculous and we come back to the time of the first digital consumer camera, Nikon's d70, which had the same resolution with the 6 mpix APSC chip. For me, the day we get a correct chip in 24 and higher pixel count that can do 500 000 iso clean, I will speak about an evolution in sensor technology. Making the pixels bigger and reducing their count is just faking you, it is no evolution at all. Maybe Nikon will now counter attack with a 8 mpix FF for a next D5 or Df II, to get you clean shot at 1 million ISO.
Tomorrow, Sony will officially announce the new A7S, 12 mpix FF, speedy AF like on a6000, 4k video. After that, let's see how fast Nikon will lose it's shoes with it's hyper expensive stuff when the first ISO 250000 clean shots appear on this forum.
Vars, mmmhh, remove the V.
Marty4650: The new Olympus marketing strategy is now clear.
They are moving to the high end of each market segment. OM-Ds rather than Pens.... Stylus cameras rather than cheap P&S models. They are doing exactly what they need to do to survive in a mass market that is being eaten alive by smart phones.
I think they are making good chioices.
And, as I read your claims, it is highly evident that any newbie who never made a shot, and even a long time P&S user, knows that Ibis, BSI C-Mos, is the must and high level outfit.
I bet all you want that 95% of all people who buy a P&S in this style or another one know nuts about cameras and there technology. High end of segment, you say? This might work in high tech cameras like OMD, but please, do not include the P&S market
Those of us who know, know also exactly what P&S could fit them and be a good complement to there better gear, but here, myself never found the real deal, since if I compare prices and add a few peanuts, I can buy a second better body once more. A Sony RX100 with a fixed lens 24 or 35 mm FF equivalent at a 400$ price tag would be the deal. So, lets keep dreaming.
A Ricoh GR or Nikon A, are still much too expensive, specially when I can get a NEX3N for 300$, and for the moment on some NEX I get the 20mm pancake for free with it.
Alexis D: People need to realize that this is a take anywhere travelzooom and so a small size is more important than a big sensor.
A 5-axis IBIS that works with 60p video is nice.
With the smallest pancake, the new Samsung NX mini is also a good travel camera, and it has a 1" sensor, the price is almost the same. Who needs a zoom for travel, a lens that has 24mm FF angle of view is all you need, even a 35mm equivalent is ok. A camera, same style as Sony RX1, with a fixed 35mm lens, or a fixed 24/28 mm equivalent is all one needs. The Sony RX100/2 is the ideal thing, only it's price is too high. At 450$ it would be correctly priced and here, no need for a zoom. I use the NEX with the 20mm pancake, and I carry with me an adapter, and a 28mm/2.8 Minolta for manual work. Travel shots fast made is the only occasion where I use AF, and even then, not all the time. With the pancake the NEX-7 fits in my pocket as well.
those Molotov cocktails are not informative, at least they could indicate in a publicity tag what brand of gasoline and what brand of liquid soap from Proctor & Gamble they use to make them, beside of the beer of Vodka tag.
007peter: This Camera is WHY SONY has ZERO RESPECT among photographers. Sony has a nasty habit of making numerous camera model without improvements...or even inferior to the previous generation. This happen before:Sony A230 is inferior to A200 it replaced. NEX 3N w/250K LCD + no accessory port is inferior to the previous NEX F3 with 920K LCD + accessory port. In the mean while, there is still no NEX-7 replacement in site. Wake Up Sony!
Ohh, I will step up to A7A when it comes out with a 24 mpix APSC sensor for 950$, that is all I want, and even better, they can do it with the EVF in the flat top body like the NEX-6/7.
Sony thinks wrong when there opinion is wanting NEX-7 owners to go A7. I will not go FF to replace NEX-7. A Next-7 with the new high speed AF sensor, or with the 20 mpix, reworked sensor to the same specs, would fit me, not a FF A7.
Comparing APSC and FF is comparing apples and oranges, they both only have in common that you can eat them.
A6000 is not, and will never be, a replacement for NEX-7 in the view of all NEX-7 owners. The first number is one too low and the number of control wheels too. On Sonyalpharumors, users that got a6000 in the last tree days are sending it back as it is in no way what they need to replace NEX-7. I do not need to buy a6000 first to find that out, I do not even consider it as of any interest to me. I shoot MF only anyway.
Thorgrem: Can anybody tell me if the A3000 was successful at all? When that was announced a lot of Sony users said it would break the low market. Did that come true?
Marc, does the A3000 has focus peaking for manual operation?
I noted that down, it's good to know. You are nuts, what is this announcement good for on a simple photo camera site that has not even one single time tested and reviewed a Pro camera in what ever the format is. I have not found in the last years reviews of D4, Phase One and Hassy mid format, and you announce that Zeiss issues some 17000 to 25000$ lenses. Ridiculous.
Shamael: I like rebates and correct priced material, but, with all rebates and Sony's new policy, we can take the Sony cameras we have and just put them in the recycle bin right away, becoming valueless. Sony's policy on prices and rebates is a punch in the face of those who buy there cameras. After just one or 2 years, they sell half the price they where at the beginning. A NEX3N with lens sells now for 299$. For me it is a invitation to buy my material elsewhere. Sell the cameras at there real value when they come out, not a double price at issue and real value a year later. A6000 pricing seems ok, but let's wait until we get it for 400$ to talk about this issue once more.
who make favors under the beltline, here all costs expensive anyway, hahaha. That's what happens when one lives down under.
What is strange is that I find always huge prices on cameras in Australia on e-bay, and if I want to buy, they do not deliver to my country.
Concerning prices and rebates, well, that is what I do in the future, I look prices and wait them to drop to buy. I did not get an A7R since I awaited those rebates and price drops. but anyway, it is an insult to those that buy the new stuff at high prices and who do not know that the prices will drop that much. Years ago we bought a camera and sold it after 3 years at an honest price, today, just throw it away after 1 year.
Shamael: a3500 is a renamed 3000 with a more crappy lens, that's all what is about. If they had sold 3000 cheaper with that lens and updated the firmware, it had been exactly the same effect. Those cameras are toys for children, despite the fact that the IQ is just stunning with a good lens. If it had focus peaking, i would buy one for my daughter.
No it does not has that feature, i have not seen it in the specs, and i have not found it on the model I had in my hands in the local store. I ask myself why Sony bring us no better camera in this style. The DSLR style housing gives a better grip for makro shooting than the NEX style, but without focus peaking, this is useless for me. I want such a camera to replace my D40. But without the peaking, i can also keep the D40.
I see nothing new in this camera compared to the a3000, except that it has been renamed and gets a crappy lens now.
nothing better than a mechanical film camera, they work at 250 degrees centigrade as well as -180 degrees, take radiation without altering the film, so what does one wants more. Hassy is lunar stuff, we all know that yet.
Some fools bought 2 Hasselblad Lunar, NEX-7, for +25000$ each on a welfare auction just this week-end. There is no remedy for stupidity yet.
igorek7: In all, the US space agency sent 14 cameras to the moon during its Apollo 11-17 missions in 1969-1972. There have been also a few training cameras and the story. There is the official Apollo 15 stowage list, http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/ so its easy to check the camera number, such as, for example, in this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/igor29768/8017234445/
There are so many controversial stories about Apollo missions, one more or less in this world of lies, who cares. You can only be sanctified if you have the faith, isn't it?
a3500 is a renamed 3000 with a more crappy lens, that's all what is about. If they had sold 3000 cheaper with that lens and updated the firmware, it had been exactly the same effect. Those cameras are toys for children, despite the fact that the IQ is just stunning with a good lens. If it had focus peaking, i would buy one for my daughter.
I like rebates and correct priced material, but, with all rebates and Sony's new policy, we can take the Sony cameras we have and just put them in the recycle bin right away, becoming valueless. Sony's policy on prices and rebates is a punch in the face of those who buy there cameras. After just one or 2 years, they sell half the price they where at the beginning. A NEX3N with lens sells now for 299$. For me it is a invitation to buy my material elsewhere. Sell the cameras at there real value when they come out, not a double price at issue and real value a year later. A6000 pricing seems ok, but let's wait until we get it for 400$ to talk about this issue once more.
Marty4650: Does the "Kodak" brand have much status today?
Perhaps with people over 50, or in some foreign markets, but here in the USA the brand Kodak meant "cheap camera that does OK, for what it cost you."
Those high end Retina Rangefinders and Kodak DC SLRs are the exception, not the rule. And they were never manufactured by Kodak anyway. They were just marketing cameras made by German or Asian companies.
I am 65, and for most of my adult life Kodax was grinding out cheap instamatic cameras that came in kit boxes, and were given as Christmas presents with a tag on them that said "open me first."
I started with an Instamatic, like so many. This could be a cheap option for a second allround camera to take with you all time. Let's wait for results, see what it can do in IQ
where is the nostalgy look, it should look like an Instamatic :-)
The white one looks pleasant, let's wait what the results are first, it could be an interesting allround option with a good pancake attached.
Rooru S: I'm surprised the RX10 outperforms video resolution compared to the a99. Tried video from the a99 and wasn't performing as I expected. Tried the RX10 and it's something totally diferent.
Normal, the sensor uses a partial frame, not the FF. If you take a sensor portion comparable to the 1" sensor, you end with a resolution of 8 mpix. I do not know if RX10 uses the whole sensor surface for video, but if it does you have a 20 mpix resolution, if it uses half of the sensor you still have 10 mpix, with the same surface on the A99 you end with 4 mpix. That makes the difference. A99 sensor has 2.5 times larger pixels, what gives it a low light and high Iso advantage and better dynamics. RX10 is made for video and Sony has concentrated on that part of the camera what is it's strong point.