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now, add the EVF viewfinder from Sony and start giving a human and real price range of 1600$ for the body and the thing will be a hit. But as we know Leica's overdriving price policy, it will be again an uncomplete toy for the rich only.
pixelatorcw: Having tried out DXO Optics Pro and Corel AfterShot Pro over the past few hours, it was somewhat 'interesting' to find out that neither of these RAW converters would support DNG files. So much for the 'open' DNG format!
Effective immediately, I have stopped converting from proprietary RAW files into the DNG format during Lightroom imports - just in case Adobe changes its business model for Lightroom as well.
I have given Corel Paintshop Pro X6 a trial during one day. The raw tool is absolutely crap. I have Nikon, Sony and Fuji files, none of them could give me a correct and good result. So, gave DXO 8 a trial, it is absolutely fabulous. Another software that is a great deal is Serif Photo Plus. I like Capture one Pro with Fuji and Sony files, only problem is that I can not get rid of that CaptureOne folder it puts everywhere, as if they could not do one directory to store all the rework data. Raw Therapee is also excellent, I use it quiet often since a long time.
onlooker: > Photographers with larger hands may also find the ergonomics
> of the E-PL5 a better fit than the decidedly 'Mini' E-PM2
Hm. Camerasize shows they are practically identical in size:
http://camerasize.com/compare/#387,382
If you look at the back, I can't see what E-PL5 offers that is more ergonomic to people with large hands (and I am interested because I do have large hands).
If it costs only $19, why do they not give it with the camera in the kit, at the price the PL5 costs.....
FTW: When does DPR changes it's page setup. When I press "read the review, i find back on this page, and when I press the red review rectangle, I end on a page with dozen of pages of different reviews. All you, that live in Europe or US, do not imagine how funny this is when you need often 3 to 5 minutes to open a page. In the jungle there is no 10 mb/second internet. So, I would like to see a direct to review or preview link. Opening 3 pages to end where i want, makes me lose 10 minutes of time and often I resign when Internet speed is at lowest.
I have mentioned this often before and many have agreed with me on this level. DPR is like Lightroom, it needs 5 corners to turn around befgore you get what you want
@ seagull, this is not the review page, you find back on this page and you have to press the link "Read our 20 page review of the Nikon D5200", to end on the review, this is the comment and presentation page only. The review is one more page to open. So, you start on DPR main page, there you see the review is posted, then you end on this page to find the final link to the review, that is nonsense. WHY not right away to the review page????
FTW: When does DPR changes it's page setup. When I press "read the review, i find back on this page, and when I press the red review rectangle, I end on a page with dozen of pages of different reviews. All you, that live in Europe or US, do not imagine how funny this is when you need often 3 to 5 minutes to open a page. In the jungle there is no 10 mb/second internet. So, I would like to see a direct to review or preview link. Opening 3 pages to end where i want, makes me lose 10 minutes of time and often I resign when Internet speed is at lowest.
I have mentioned this often before and many have agreed with me on this level. DPR is like Lightroom, it needs 5 corners to turn around befgore you get what you want
I said the same many time too. FTW and me live in the same place and dive resort on a coral reef in the Philippines, we have eternal problems with slow wireless Internet connection, and surfing is sometimes a real torture here. For us, as for many others worldwide, direct links to the preview would make sense and help us to see what we intend to see at first.
http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model
here is an online petition to sign and that will be addressed to Adobe CEO and executives to abolish this Cloud system. Adobe stock has also dropped value since they announced this. Sorry if this petition has been posted already, I do not go through 2000 posts to check that.
justmeMN: With the EVF it's not compact. With a metal body, it's not light. Why not just buy a DSLR, which has a larger sensor? You can get a really nice DSLR for (less than) $1,500.
you all discuss here about things that do not hold the road. A D7100 fits in a pocket too, all you need is a pocket of that size. For sure, a Pen with a small pancake lens fist in a pocket, a NEX-7 with a pancake as well, but honestly, if you real goal is to carry a pocket camera around all time, go for a RX100. If you want a larger sensor, a Nikon A or a Ricoh GR is the way to go. And, in all of those cameras, you have a better sensor than a 4/3. The RX100 equals 4/3 as well in picture quality. So, in the present case, let's be objective on what the camera is, and let's not put too much accent on pocketable, it is, but with some conditions on what lens you use or what the size of you pocket is. Even a Pentax Q has pocket size issues, all depends here again on the lens you use. Any ILS is not made for pocket use anyway.
Adrian Van: Although the OMD EM5 is a great camera, the EP5 has nearly all the same features (except weather sealing, and built in EVF) but not everyone needs that and would value a smaller solid built compact camera with a whole lot of options. Also throw in a few more new innovations, better faster AF focusing they claim in press release and what is not to like. Has a built in popup flash which is better than the EM5 method of having to attach and this is a camera of convenience and optimum quality. Worth the price? To some it would certainly be or wait a few months for price sales! This size of camera competes with with some of the Fuji offerings as well.
@ Marike6
when intelligence and reason capitulate, violence is the only language that remains and that people talk. A real Master would never talk this way, since a real master has control about his body and mind. Life is a mirror, and all reflects on all, except if you know how, and if you are able to break the mirror. Man, know thyself? By what you answer to abortabort here, you show that to all on this forum that you don't.
Let's stay objective here and exchange point of view on cameras, not on our personal disparities.
veroman: I find this to be a very odd camera release. Same sensor. Nearly the same body ... though improved. But the real issue for me is that, with the oversized EVF (an absolute necessity; I find ALL LCD-as-viewfinder based cameras to be inferior to optical viewfinder cameras) and a lens, these micros ain't so micro anymore. Weight and size are up. Cost is up, too.
$1,400 for body, 17mm lens and big EVF? Wow. I can think of any number of smallish DLSRs that will give me a lot more camera, lens and quality for the same or even less money.
So I don't really understand this release. I guess beauty and value are in the eyes of the beholder. This beholder would opt for something like the weather-sealed Pentax K-30 over this new Oly. (No, I have no relationship whatsoever with Pentax or any other camera/lens maker.)
you all do not see the reality. This camera is a Pen Update all over. It has a few minor and one serious update in it's features and an amazingly improved update in pricing. In some way a bit more camera for a lot more bucks.
igorek7: OMD - evf + wifi + 1/8000 + peaking + a few more new features. However, the same "vintage" design, the same lack of improvements in video, the same idea that starting price should be twice more than expected.
Fortunately, the micro four thirds system provides a good choice of the alternative cameras.
you walk beside your shoes, Adrian.
Everlast66: Sorry Olympus, we have enthusiasts here, but in this financial climate are kind-of short on $1k enthusiasts!
look at the NEX-6, it has a built in EVF, and it has a correct zoom-lens for that price, it is just one example. Now, you will say that you should then buy NEX-6. Well, that is what I did, but, i opted for NEX-7 when at the shop. It was for me worth the 250$ more.
Antony John: Hmm, this could well find it's way into my travel bag.
Specs look impressive, especially the introduction of IBIS - and focus peaking for my MF lenses.
Was sort of hoping Nikon would come up with a smaller, portable, camera like this. The Nikon '1s' don't really impress me.
don't put accents on ISO 100, the native sensor is 200 ISO, that 100 is just a step down, not a real 100 ISO. The Sony NEX-7 sensor has 100 ISO native.
snowboarder: So is it really gonna work for micro 4/3? More and more compact
cameras will show up with full frame and they are stuck with
a small sensor...
if FF was the hit and will make all other sensor sizes obsolete, why do we have then things like a Pentax Q, a Nikon 1, a Sony RX100, and so on. According to your philosophy, apsc should have buried all those sensors, including 4/3, since a long time
Pablo4: big camera, small sensor. nothing new, progressive, interesting here to see
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big Macx has spoken, hugh. :-)
BuckarooBanzai: What's the over/under point on the price point of the body only being $600? I say 1 year from now.
wait till there is a new OMD, as long as nothing replaces it, it stays high in value. If any OM-6 will come, and it surely will, then all looks different, and even if it just gets the few gadgets and features added from this one here.
sadwitch: There's one feature that wipes all other mirroless system for now and that's the 1/8000 shutter speed. Not to mention the 5 axis in body stabilisation too.
1/8000, do you need that?
Digitall: If I chose M43 system, this would be my camera actually.
with "if", you can change the whole universe
vodanh1982: E-P5 17 f/1.8 vs Nex-6 24 f/1.8, which one is better?
just give them a try. There is a difference in picture coverage between a 24 and and 17, not much, but there is. The Sony is a Zeiss and draws fine, despite it is not Zeiss typical. Now, there is a new Zeiss flood for Sony and Fuji, Zeiss did not fond it necessary for the moment to cover 4/3 with the 12 and 35 Touit.
Kodachrome200: this is essentially an e-pl5 for 400 more. the difference as far as i can tell is strictly ergonomic. mostly true about the om-d too. not sure i get either camera
Dar kijk er eens, een kaaskoppeke, hahaha.
1000$ for that, they are kiddin'. You are a month too late to announce this, 1st of April is gone. What does Olympus thinks? A pen, nor VF, and one Grant, somebody must have lost his reason in that company.