Flashback: Leica SL 'we see little justification for purchasing it' That's a bit harsh for a brand new camera system.
Come on DPREVIEW there's more to this world than the A7RII . . .
The DPR's bottom line sounds "spot on" to me.
A lot of useful info in this tastefully done video.The series is just getting better and better.A pleasure to watch, contrary to mundane studio scenes (although they have their place as well).A very nice and effective attempt to balance photography and gear talk.
Don Sata: I think ti's not a good idea to recommend buying the NX1.
Canon EOS M3 was not supposed to be sold in US by the manufacturer's decision, just to be announced in US some months later.I don't like playing games like that, no matter which way they go.The fact is that in US the NX1 is still sold and nothing official suggest yet that the NX line would be dead in this market. I'm sure that the silence from Samsung is not a good confidence builder no matter where we are located.
You might be right (based on rumours) but in the absence of official statement from Samsung, the NX1 omission in this round-up would be a mistake, I think.
TheGreatfulBread: Additionally you are again comparing cameras that are almost 2 years old with some cameras that came out just this summer. Not very good way of doing things.
It is a very good and balanced way of comparing available for purchase gear. Not always the latest product is the greatest one as those round-ups show.
darngooddesign: "It's beautifully made, with a body hewn from a single block of aluminum."
Pedantic comment of the day... the body is milled, not hewn.
"Carved", "Hewn", "Meticulous" are the words which should appeal to the targeted audience and make spending a bunch of money justified. This is a typical boutique jargon and very effective at that.The truth is that the only artist in the development process are the designer and engineering team trying to cram the guts into the finished shell. The rest of the process is as ordinary as CNC machining of any three-dimensional part (programming, set-up,loading the part on the fixture, pressing the cycle start button, unloading the finished part and so on). Of course, care and skills of the personnel conducting every step of the process matters but Portuguese workers who hewn the T bodies can be as good as the "ax wielding Bavarian lumber-squirrels". LOL.
moizes 2: Looks like the lens is eaten alive by new sensor. I am not sure if it is possible to fix with firmware update. Let us see.
I just believe what I see with my own eyes. DP1 Quattro with the lens of 28mm in 35 mm terms is closer (and looks better than the RX1R2).If that is not enough, DP0 Quattro shows clearly what a great wide angle lens can do. Of course Sony is more sophisticated camera then the Quattro line but if we are talking IQ (not to mention respective prices), new child of Sony has nothing to write home about.
Revisit the Sigma DP2Quattro test scene then come back with the conclusion.
It could be the lens in general. Sample variation should not exist in case of fixed prime lens in camera of such caliber. Quite disappointing results.
osv: 1400+ posts here, on the same day that the review was published? that must be a record for dpr.
it looks like this camera, and what it portends for future sony cameras, has a lot of canikon people questioning their current platform choices :-)
well done rishi.
Maybe they are (and should).The thing is that CaNik cannot tear apart the cocoon they encapsulated themselves in, with focus on DSLR's. Or maybe they are too busy competing with each other?
Raist3d: I have to admit. I read this review and I get the subtle impression dpreview like this camera. Am I reading this right? I am not sure.
C'mon, it is nothing wrong to be enthusiastic about the product. Especially when enthusiasm is well deserved.The round-ups are one thing (and they are quite flat) but I'm sure that the reviews are not influenced by bribery or demands of any party you've mentioned. Great read BTW.
photog4u: Speaking of "class leading"; this is one of the best reviews EVER to come out of DPReview IMHO. Well done Rishi and many thanks to your collaborators :)
Thanks Marc,I'm one of Sigma fans as well, the grips are an expression of that.For sheer IQ, there is not much what can touch Merrill or Quattro sensors as many people realizes. Too bad that the rest of infrastructure of the camera is not on par with the competitors.
solarsky: The Sigma SD1 Merrill was omitted again, as usual. When will they learn...
Taking for consideration IQ alone , that would be a bargain but anything else is twentieth century tech, unfortunately. It is 2015 now, the last time I've checked.
Lost to Barney again by 1 min.
Nathan8: I woke up this morning... and was greeted with 1197 new comments from an article a few hours old
The comments started about 2 months ago at the first look at the cam.
The review is shorter as usual because DPReview is closely following some cameras from the time of announcement to the full review.There is a lot of "in between" info like first look, hands on, shooting experience real life galleries, already posted. For field leading cameras you have to follow previous posts to have most comprehensive picture of final full review. I think.
I believe that SD1 MSRP at the introduction was $9600.00 so it should be in Leica SL category, not the lowly Sonys and Nikons.
b craw: I'm certainly not going to take things to the level of grease wrestling over conclusions derived in a subjective analysis...
Under 'cons' for Samsung NX500: "plasticky"-it has an aluminum top plate, the rest polycarbonate. By comparison, the Sony A6000 (an otherwise well-featured and great performing camera) feels like it is constructed from plastic milk containers. Yet, "plasticky" is not listed in the cons for it. Add in "good ergonomics" listed for the A6000 (and not for the widely-regarded ergonomically superior NX500) and I'm a bit baffled.
@Andrea Georgia,This lengthy exchange sounds more like a pi$$ing match than presenting final conclusion.
To your credit: it seems like you perfected use of NX500 and it's lenses.To DPR credit: they have tested the whole array of cameras and lenses in the said line-up against each other. In real life and studio performance.In fact the recent field test (mushroom picking) of NX500 shows convincingly that DPR really like the NX500 in variety of shooting environments.
Don't forget that it is hard to recommend the camera which is already not available in some markets and the manufacturer don't present a clear path for the future. Shame on Samsung for that.
I love my 1DX and lenses but to say that it is superior all-rounder in every aspect would be a stretch for me.
AndrePooh: Utterly amazing that the class leading in everything NX500 not even made it to the "also consider..." part.
Class leading? well according to DxO the sensor scores 87 on par with the D7200 as best APS-C sensors versurs A6000 at 82 ( http://www.dxomark.com/cameras#hideAdvancedOptions=false&viewMode=list&yDataType=rankDxo )
Furthermore the direct comparing tool shows the NX500 to beat the A6000 on just about everything especially on build quality and metering and focus accurary, this makes the "plasticky"- what we don't like- all the more awkward since the testreport says: "The NX500 feels solid in your hand and is ergonomically pleasing...." etc,
Sure, arch conservatists will miss the EVF. However more practical others would miss the brilliant tap focus touch screen on other cameras. That's all subjective. The bias however show if you don't let the hard figures speak.
brycesteiner: If this model is still in stores, why would Samsung confirm this discontinuation? No one would buy it because it won't be supported. Dealers couldn't in good conscience recommend it and Samsung doesn't want to take them all back to the warehouses especially if there is a stockpile.
If this being the case, they certainly wouldn't confirm it with a press release, which is what seems to be happening.
Finally, simple and to the point observation.