i can't believe the negativity and cynicism of so many DPReview users. My passion for photography was born in the 1980's when great cameras like the FM2 and F3 were being produced, and photography was a very uncomplicated joy. It still is...for me anyway. this camera looks like fun! manual controls are actually a good thing...if we were to just ask Cartier Bresson or any of the great masters. chill out people and enjoy the ride! :) oh, and overpriced?? not for a pro camera...which it appears to be. if you want a point and shoot there's plenty to choose from.
tent makers have been doing this for years! i have one and they are durable. but sturdy?? maybe for a point and shoot...nothing more
CameraLabTester: " It's good, because it refreshes the image of Leica, to make cameras that are really used by professionals."
That was one generation ago, when photography was an exclusive club.
Today's generation is totally irrelevant to the past nostalgic way of doing things.
The cheapest DSLR today would look like it came from Mars had it shown up 40 years ago.
The gap and demarcation line between the elite photography gear ownership and the common mans brownie has been totally eradicated in the digital era
That is the reason why Jurassic brands who missed the boat will turn to bling and sparkling decor instead of image performance.
i think time will prove you wrong. good design doesn't date, and Leica is good design, so I don't see that it will fail any more than say Nikon or Canon.
Nublover: Leica is not good at digital (same as Germany cars). A Sony FF Nex plus Leica lenses will be my dream. Cheers! Anyone agree with this pls reply. Thx.
yes, all those shoddy BMW's, Mercedes, Audis, Porches, VW's etc...German Junk! :)
lokthefish: hey, I know it's overpriced, but just stop for a minute all you "photographers" hurling negative comments at Leica. Leica, overpriced as it may be, is making real cameras of the highest quality and if you've ever picked one up and used it, you might change your tune. it may seem such a basic design and some people who want lots of features for their money won't see the value. but good design is timeless, and what features do you really need except great lenses, great viewfinder, shutter speed, aperture, iso and manual focusing? get out there and shoot people, don't rip a camera apart because you don't understand or lack the expertise to use a real camera. and by the way, how much are the top pro models from Nikon or Canon? about the same price, if not more! I wonder whose design will stand the test of time?
um, i think you've missed the point @mpgxsvcd, the camera does not make the picture better, it's the PHOTOGRAPHER. Do you think we're taking more creative photos than 40 years ago, when cameras were very simple? a great camera design is simple and doesn't get in the way with millions of buttons and menus. and I'm not saying that the other camera brands aren't durable, I'm talking about design, as in how well it works in your hands. Leica has been using the same design for years...because it works! pick one up and see for yourself! and for all the people whinging about the comparatively lower resolution screen, who cares when you have a viewfinder this good? i only use my screen to check exposure and access menus.
zoranT: When will fuji arrive in the 21st century aesthetically? In 100 years' time?
what are you talking about? Fuji are making some of the most beautiful cameras out there, and people are loving them, look at the sales figures!
hey, I know it's overpriced, but just stop for a minute all you "photographers" hurling negative comments at Leica. Leica, overpriced as it may be, is making real cameras of the highest quality and if you've ever picked one up and used it, you might change your tune. it may seem such a basic design and some people who want lots of features for their money won't see the value. but good design is timeless, and what features do you really need except great lenses, great viewfinder, shutter speed, aperture, iso and manual focusing? get out there and shoot people, don't rip a camera apart because you don't understand or lack the expertise to use a real camera. and by the way, how much are the top pro models from Nikon or Canon? about the same price, if not more! I wonder whose design will stand the test of time?
RadioGnome: At last a Nikon candidate to replace my D200 with enough 'new-ness' and improvements to justify spending money.
(No pun to anyone else, but photography is purely a hobby for me so food and housing for the family prevails incremental improvements on IQ on most occasions).
FF offers a lot: shallower DOF, dynamic range, larger viewfinder image, logical lens focal lengths (50mm is 50mm!)
chekist: I think in D600 vs D800 comparison few important features are overlooked:
Max flash synch 1/200 vs 1/250, according to Nikon both have FP flash (DP erroneously does not mention FP for D600)AE bracketing 3 vs 9 max (DP erroneously identified as 7) frames, which means that it would be harder to do HDR, but D600 allows for 2 F-stop change (which DP erroneously identifies as 1-fstop).
Those actually weigh into my decision about which one to get. I think they should be included over pixels of exposure metering, which I do not know how to practically interpret - oh, thats a lot I reckon...
But I actually like 24 instead of 36MP. 12MP was a bit tight, but 36MP for me is just a waste of time and space.
I agree 36MP is too much. why fill up your cards and hard drive with file sizes you don't need?? 24MP is enough, more than enough!
mcm49: I began in my youth in the 50's with a hand-me-down Leica IIIf 35mm rangefinder camera with the 50mm f1.5 Summarit lens from my weatherman storm-chaser uncle. I couldn't afford any other lenses on a paperboy's wages, so that was the only lens the camera ever had. The camera took exceptional photos - even by today's standards.
Unfortunately, I didn't know what I had, and traded it in on an Hanimex-Practika SLR in the late 60's to get the through-the-lens novelty of SLRs. That camera shop really made out on that deal - historically speaking.
Seeing what the SLR film plane "sees" truly gave a much more powerful sense of photographic control over the rangefinder concept, which is why the SLR concept has survived for so long.
Now, we have what is essentially the same in the EVF concept; the EVF is a sampling of what the "sensor plane" sees TTL, without the bulk of the mirror/pentaprism of the SLR, and so we now have the best of both worlds...and that's "true functional innovation".
@mcm49 yes it is all really lovely stuff that Fuji is doing, however I have yet to see any EVF come close to the wonderful real experience of looking through a glass pentaprism! I guess one day EVF's will get very good, but it still won't be the same as looking through glass. I think SLR's will live on.
camelot98: they are ok pics...i guess we wait for more to really see what this camera can do..
all the camera manufacturers have quality control issues tho. it's not like the old days because they are producing so many more units at a faster rate. still...no excuse for sloppy QC!
this looks great, thanks Nikon! I was hoping for a D300 upgrade, but this is better!! who needs DX crop when you have 24MP?!!
Fuji makes great FILM and now rocking the digital arena with great CAMERAS! what's not to like?!!
why is everyone complaining about the number of dials? Dials are the quickest controls, and most DSLRs have at least 3 or 4, so this is a good thing! way better than fiddling with buttons and menus!
Paul Farace: Dear Nippon Kogaku Designers:close, but still no cigar! OPTICAL VIEWFINDER!!! And I'd buy one!Really, I mean it!
guys, if you're serious photographers, you'll understand that being able to hold the camera up to your eye is essential for good stability and for use in bright outdoor lighting. that's why no optical viewfinder is a deal breaker! this camera is aimed at the serious end of compact cameras, but lacks this very important feature.
sempull tampush: Speaking of enthusiast - how about EVF and and at least 1" sensor?
RPJG the V1 is a toy, not a serious enthusiast camera. Enthusiast cameras should have lots of manual controls, which the V1 does not. Nikon has lost the plot.
no optical finder! so disappointed Nikon, I would have rushed out and bought this camera, here I was thinking Nikon have finally made a great compact...but no :( might have to go the Fuji X10 after all.
for all you critics wondering why anyone would buy this sort of camera, have you ever used a Leica?? I agree Leica's are a bit overpriced, but they are great cameras to use! you might think that a camera with a million features and buttons gives you better value. A Leica is minimalist in design, but it works. There is wisdom in that good design does not age easily. Look at a Porsche 911, and see how subtly the design has changed over so many years. Look at a Japanese car over the same period and they are unrecognisable. So don't criticise something just because it's expensive, how about criticising all the countless cheap nasty cameras that have been made in the last 1o years that will never be remembered because they were awful to use and ugly in design!
PHOTOboy73, what planet are you on? Voice control for a professional camera? I'd like to see how that would work at a wedding, or business presentation, or photographing wildlife to mention just a few photography applications. Do you actually shoot in the real world, or just sit on forums dreaming up stupid ideas?