Gesture: "Images slightly soft, with mushy detailsTends to clip highlights; chromatic aberrations can be strong at times"
How is that good inage quality?
Can't believe never really followed on that concept in the digital era, underwater housings non-withstanding. I remember Olympus having UW housings right from the get-go with the C-XOXO series.
camera fan not photographer: I'd like to see a top 10 of the best up-to $500 camera (including lens) for non-photographers to buy to take great pictures in auto-everything mode, judged primarily by image quality of out-of-camera JPEGs. Because I get asked this question a lot by people who don't care about manual controls, viewfinders, or raw processing. (Eg, just want to take good pics of their kids.) What's as good as or better than the E-PM2 (less than $500 at Amazon, and I've seen down to $424)?
Exactly. Finding a great camera + kit lens for $1,000 is a non-brainer. That's a LOT of money. But as you suggest makes sense.
Marty4650: I think the reason that NEX and M4/3 were on this list.... and NX, Fuji X and Nikon 1 weren't.... is that the former have the most complete lens catalogs.
Fuji, Samsung and Nikon make very nice MILC cameras, but if you buy one you will be somewhat limited in your lens options.
I think Samsung has the most complete and well-thought out lens lineup. With 24mm, 30mm, 45mm, 90mm, 120mm equivalents.
BJL: ILC = interchangeable lena cameras which obviously covers DSLRs too, so it isa poor replacement for CSC or MILC or my favorite, EVIL. With Olympus, Panasonic amd Sony all at times using "Compact System Camera" when referring to their MFT or NEX products, I do not think that DPReview alone has the power to "forcibly retire" that naming.
I think Compact System Camera is the best way to go and less tongue-typing. See that used on many retailer sites.
Heie2: I am a Pentaxian fanboy through and through, but I say this in the most objective way possible:
The best value for money DSLR's/MILC's under $1000 are the Pentax K-500 ($595 w/ 18-55 kit lens), Pentax K-50 ($696 body or $776 w/ Weather Resistant kit lens), Pentax K-5 ($500 used body - discontinued), with the number one spot for "best bang for your buck" across the photographic world given to the Pentax K-30 ($479 body) and the Pentax K-01 ($299 w/ 40mm pancake lens) despite what is undeniably a controversial body design for DSLR/Mirrorless, respectively.
Even the lowest entry level isn't skipped over for $1000+ features such as 100% penta PRISM viewfinders and DUAL command dials.
Anyone that tells you otherwise is delusional.
Voila! What's nice is that Pentax doesn't cripple lower-end bodies, except not having in-camera focus adjustment, I believe. Samsung is the same way. The NX1000 has the same interface capabilities as the higher end models.
Would like to have seen Pentax bring in the K-500 even lower to help build the brand. And why not keep the K-30 line going a while. Pentax needed more models and this is a step in the right direction.
reginalddwight: The "buy now" button with a direct link to Amazon's website does make this buyer's guide from DPR appear like a subtle advertisement for the parent company. Only mildly less subtle than the paid advertisements that appear on the right side of the webpage IMO.
Fine. Just say a Guide "brought to you by Amazon.com." Let B&H and Adorama have their own guides?
markgv: With the release of the new Pentax K-50, the Pentax K-30 for under $500 is an incredible amount of quality camera for the price.
I understand, Barney, but a better article would be Best DLSR or ILC camera for less than $600. For $!K, I don't think there's any doubt you can find a wonderful camera. What can we do for $600-which I still consider quite a lot of money.
"Images slightly soft, with mushy detailsTends to clip highlights; chromatic aberrations can be strong at times"
Plus, this is the one segment that traditional cameras manufacturers can prosper in, so, yes, why not upscale the models. Even now, I doubt many will use their iPhone seaside or in water.
Rod McD: 1. Why is it that every one the manufacturers of these rugged cameras assume that the people who need them aren't interested in higher IQ? Outdoor photographers (hikers, climbers, cavers, kayakers, cyclists, yachties, etc) really value their forays into wild places and the images they bring back. Would somebody kindly offer a more serious camera with a larger sensor. I fully expect it to cost more and weigh more and I would be prepared to pay for the improvement.
2. Why do they all ignore two hundred years of engineering knowledge about seals? The internet is full of leak experiences and failures to honor guarantees. They could use a 1" O-ring on the base of a decent grip and it would be big enough to take an SD card and an appropriately shaped battery. And it would allow them to offer better specs. Just do it.
Yes. Interesting that Nikon was once a pioneer with the Nikonos cameras, but never seemed to follow it up in the digital age?
My personal advice. Check out each linked seller on Amazon. There is great variation in the return and other policies. Some follow Amazon policies; others have their own, which can include restocking fees. I always check out the seller ratings, also.
Canon EOS Rebel T4i Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Good choice. Just saw it on eBay for $600.
chlamchowder: I think a really good idea is to go to KEH, and go through the used DSLR bodies there, looking for ones that match your needs. Then, do a second check on other sites that sell used gear to see if you can get an even better price.
For example, if you're shooting sports in good light, a Canon 1D II can do a better job than a lot of options on this list, while costing less. If you just want a solid camera with good controls, you get a Nikon D200 for less than $300. Or if you're adventurous, you could get a first generation pro DSLR (D1 or 1D series) for a really low price.
Unless you're looking for megapixels, high ISO performance, or video, you can save a lot of money by going for the oldest DSLR on the used market that still fits your needs. And even if you want MP/ISO performance/video, buying second hand versions of new cameras can still save you some money.
I agree and KEH, Adorama, Robertscamera give 6-month warranty on used.
Need a Samsung on the list.
Rip Van Winkle says, shouldn't $700 be able to buy a good DSLSR or Compact System camera.
danduranduran: Had the old 1.7 with my GF1 and I loved it. I eventually moved on to the 25mm 1.4 which had much better AF. Now I have an OMD with the Olympus 17mm 1.8, and I've really grown to appreciate the 35mm equivalent. I toyed around with my old 20mm to compare the two, and I just found myself having a harder time getting the composition I wanted with it's 40mm equivalent. My 17mm has mostly replaced my 25mm and even my 12. It's become my new default lens. It's just a very versatile focal length. I think this new 20mm will be fantastic if they fix the noise and AF, but I'll stick with what I have, minus my beloved old 20, which I'll get around to selling one of these days!
34-36 mm is a great focal length.
sleek, sophisticated design elegantly finished in black and silver. NUF SAID. Except 7 aperture blades isn't necessarily round. Should look at lenses from earlier eras.
The most striking thing to me of this and Samsung announcements: doesn't say, as does Nikon all over its recent 8-page insert in USA today: Wi-Fi Connectivity with Optional WU-1b Mobile Adapter.
I love how buzzwoids accumulate. One: Samsung cameras are excellent to outstanding. Two: this is not a rangefinder style. It is a compact DSLR style, which only Samsung and Panasonic are really doing and doing well. Of course, now Canon finally has a real compact digital SLR.
techmine: where is that guy who says Samsung copies everything?? :-)
It is hardly an obsolete camera.