NCB: Canon have made the same mistake as Nikon, dropping the viewfinder, as Nikon did in the P7700 before bringing it back as as EVF in the P7800. Too much of the potential market for this sort of camera wants a viewfinder of some sort; the optical type was never that bad that omitting it was a good thing, and while the EVF in the P7800 isn't great, compared to other EVFs now appearing, it's better than nothing.
Unless Canon and Nikon start putting quality EVFs in this sort of camera, they might as well drop them; there are too many attractive alternatives around in the quality-but-not-too-large market. The sensor-size of the G1 X II isn't enough on its own to make a difference.
Funny how Nikon had an EVF in a compact way back when (P600??) and never followed up with it.
Closer to EOS-M. Wonder how video will be. But bring something like this home closer to $500. Which is still a lot of money. Where is the value proposition.
If nothing else, I expect it will take a while for 3rd party RAW converters to master this sensor output. What Sigma can do with the RAW file with its Sigma Photo Pro will be an important part of the image equation.
I wish Dick Merrill were still alive to give his take on this.
Christos Tolis: This camera represents an obviously highly controversial design decision, both on the outside and regarding its entrails. However, it is what it is and at the end of the day it's the images and the usability that matter. DP Merrills sure get my vote for IQ at low and moderate ISOs but their usability as all around cameras is politely put - limited. I would gladly part with my money for this one if the IQ is on par with them and the battery life, responsiveness, software workflow is genuinely improved. Until then, I'll pass. You gotta hand it to them though... they sure ain't giving up...:) p.s. Sigma pls, why are you making us buy three cameras to get three lenses...??????
Having something that is specialist but beyond anything else in existence versus trying to bring the image characteristics in line with the rest of the quality marketplace. Many DPM owners didn't mind the limitations, because the upside was so great. I expect the DPM cameras to go up in price.
We can spin things any way we want, but 15 down to 4.9 is not progress. If the Foveon issues could be solved, you go 10:10:10 at a minimum. That huge body begs an integral EVF or swivel design.
I expect DP Merrills to go up in value. An image threshold with sensor plus lens never to be equaled.
Mcmx: I am honestly a bit confused that people seem to get so hung up on the ergonomics. It's a pretty slim camera, so instead of only giving it a hump on the front, they also gave it a hump at the back.
I just now took my DSLR in my right hand, which should be roughly as thick as the broadest part of the Sigma, and I wouldn't be surprised if it will feel almost the same. Obviously, one has to try it, but ergonomically, it doesn't look different from a DSLR as far as the position of the right hand is concerned.
Overreaction to battery life and ISO issues. I'll take image brilliance over ISO any day. But at least put those right side buttons on the left of the camera back and center the LCD to some degree more.
VadymA: To reduce processing time, why don't they simply reduce sensor resolution from 15x3 to 10x3? This would give them the same volume of 30mp to process as 4:1:1 but at the same time preserve true Foveon nature of "real color in every pixel". The idea of Quad seems pure marketing gimmic to me in an attampt to go back to 4.9MP sensor.
Exactly. 10x10x10 would have been outstanding. This camera is really 2 steps backwards for Sigma, the effusive press release notwithstanding. Way less resolution; breaks the Foveon principle.
Looking good, Nikon.
If Hasselblad wanted to offer a series of Sony clones, as Leica does Panasonic clones, it would have been better for all of them to follow this camera's more reasonable design clues.
What is irritating is claiming them as Hasselbalds or Leicas. Just say developed in partnership with Sony; in partnership with Panasonic.
Can there be added value. I guess so, in terms of service support, extended warranty.
The quote from the CEO is more embarrassing than the product. The world's supply of self-respect keeps diminishing.
Nice to see DPReview redeem itself from the constant barrage of buy-this, buy-that for posts like these. The journalist is privileged to stand in for all of us, whether it's a war or a garden show. He is thought of as one who pursued his craft with integrity and character. But even if certain reporters do things for the "thrill, the high," a la Oliver Stone's Salvador, it doesn't mean that their work isn't of value.
Great idea, but build looks like every other contemporary lens. No lens should cost $1,000.
Donnie G: If a camera design is done right, then there is no need to hype up any mythical marketing advantages of mirrorless ILC tech vs. traditional SLR tech in order to sell the camera to enthusiasts. The Fujifilm X-T1 is an excellent example of a camera design that is done right. No further hype required.
We need to see which of these lines, Fuji, Sony, etc. hold up the best. This is what surprises me about DPReview GearShop. The cameras get recommended even before they are really into full production and there is enough field experience to know that there are no substantial bugs. This is why so many First Impressions-the camera can then be GearShop recommended.
NeilJones: Think I'm going to try the XE2 for a month from amazon and if I like it just send it back and get the XT1. It looks nice.
Is that really what a return policy is for-free rental of a camera.
lorenzo de medici: This looks like a great camera. I don't like the current trend of putting old fashioned round dials on the tops of cameras. The old round dials 30 years ago were mechanical devices. These are just pointless imitations, all the workings are electronic. Ergonomics should take priority over fashion in a serious camera. I can easily adjust aperture, ISO, shutter speed, exposure compensation, metering, and focus mode on my Nikon D600 without taking my eye from the viewfinder. And there are no odd bumps between my finger and the shutter button.
Exactly. With all the talent at each OEM, no one is really thinking through or trying to improve the interface of digital cameras. Now, we're into knobs and dials, which are an exercise in nostalgia more than anything else.
ybizzle: Buy a new EM-5 body for $799 (B&H) or a used one for $500 and call it a day. Pricing for this doesn't make sense when the body is only $100 cheaper than the EM-5.
If the E-M10 drifts down in cost after introduction, I would agree. On a different note: Will Olympus ever come out with a newer sensor.
Neat cameras down-specifying. But $700 is not budget-friendly; it is a lot of money.
Getting closer. Take the best from the old and new. Don't need a hump. But I do feel that 1.4,000th second is more than enough shutter speed.