rich889: the point of the comparison scene is to COMPARE between cameras across the board, OLD AND NEW. The most logical way to do that is to expand the current scene rather than delete it and start with a clean slate.
Exactly. Start by looking at the world's finest advertising photography in upscale magazines. Yes, you want some "targets," but I woud include items like an exquisite vase that is semi-translucent, musical instruments like a clarinet or alto sax, flower arrangement of real life flowers that have been professionally preserved, a watch and so on. Instead of crayons and watercolor pans, try pastels that are available in a complete tonal set, yet with constant Hue and Saturation (only value changes). Fabrics are good and the concept could be logically expanded.
Please. Rethink the entire rationale and use of a testing scene, including taking a look at the competitors. Start with what you want to evaluate: color discrimination; fine detail; rectilinear function, uniformity of exposure across the frame, shadow detail and noise, etc. And use as many real world, 3-dimensional, non-artificially pigmented objects as possible. And an interesting, imaginative lighting scheme that really tests sensor response.
Where's the kitchen sink?
Thanks for dragging us old-timers with reduced kicking and screaming into this brave new world of imaging. Years ago, decades ago (film era), American Photographer gave point and shoot cameras to "everyday" citizens. The results were superb, so I never disparage someone with less fancy equipment or less experience.
Thanks for reviewing. We need more discussion of metering and exposure for digital photography.
Marty4650: This is exactly what the world needs!
A camera with a $40 a month data plan! So rather than buying a camera, you can subscribe to one by signing a two year contract!
A camera that doesn't require a PC or a laptop!
After paying for broadband, cell phone, cable TV, satellite radio, OnStar, and tablet or ereader monthly fees... people really want one more connectivity bill to pay each month.
Talk about a solution searching for a problem!
Wait until we have 5 cameras, each with its own data plan!
mosc: So many of you just don't get it. This is not a phone and it's not a professional camera. It's draw is that it's fully programmable. It's a platform for android coders to develop image processing techniques and to include picture taking in more detail into their other applications. Some of this stuff exists already, particularly for the iphone, but this platform allows for much more intimate control of the photograph (aperture, shutter, ISO, exposure, white balance, etc).
You folks are thinking of it as an overpriced compact. If you only opened the box and took pictures with it, that's what you'd get. The purpose is more than that. Samsung has the money to throw into a product like this without hopes of really making money. Their goal is to get third parties making camera focused android apps. Ones that will require more than the fixed POS on an iphone. Those new apps will drive the connected camera concept Samsung keeps going on about.
There can be fun to this approach. Using the camera as photo editor. Olympus had the idea with some earlier cameras—like the SP-320—amazing what editing could be done with a JPEG or RAW image in-camera, then dropped it. Now, of course, everything is advanced way beyond with apps. I'm one of those who enjoy tweaking the image on computer, but can see the appeal and value of being able to do so much without a computer.
All these months absent would have been a good time to re-think how to test lenses and what to include by way of technical and photographic evaluation. I hope this is what has been accomplished.
Accessory de jour is all well and good, but I would prefer seeing some reviews and articles abut flash-which has become so unbelievably expensive.
Longer time when posts are editable. On Amazon.com it is open-ended and you can delete a post.
It would be nice if within any thread, you could sort the entries in chronological order.
Unfortunately, this series of cameras may be an admission that the present Hasselblad has no contribution to make any longer to the world of imaging, including in the area of technical services. Really, don't understand what Sony gains from this. As many have suggested, blend Sony technology with a Hasselblad heritage and technical services-give us a new digital camera format-designed for waist level viewing, square composition, using existing Hasselblad lenses (I think another OEM is already on that!), something.
MJJSevilla: I´ve never understood all the pointless negativity. Rangefinder style viewing with framelines offers certain advantages over TTL viewing - seeing more of the context can help with composition, seeing whats about to come into the frame can help with certain types of scenes, some people like seeing the world directly rather than projected or on an LCD or whatever. Rangefinder viewing also has drawbacks and finally someone has thought outside of the box and given us a camera which allows you to use two different viewfinder technologies, best of both worlds, and what do people do? Instead of being happy to have more choice and competition, something benefitting ALL consumers, they moan. They moan about a camera they´ve never used, have no intention of using, and don´t really understand how to use, because the idea of someone else using a different camera to them is somehow intolerable. The very idea that some people want different things is like some sort of existential threat.
First real innovation in viewing since Contax G. RF you embrace the world. SLR you capture it. RF also traditionally had advantages of compactness and quietness. Need macro or long lens, then go SLR.
Thanks. Wish you had reported on printers and papers and the Alpa booth? Must be a fun event to attend.
I think back to late in the film era when the Contax G was launched. It was an expensive, beautifully designed, real camera with fantastic lenses. It was a luxury item, but one of value and good taste and for a time there was quite a cachet to it with Hollywood folks, etc. walking around with them. Many celebrities in the film era were ardent photographers and rolled out their Leicas, Nikon RF, Rollefilex, etc. because they wanted the best, not the busiest.
Forge a relationship, but do something constructive with it. What can Hasselblad contribute to Sony, experience in medium format digital, technical support, etc.
Bravo to Fuji for working to advance optical viewing systems. Where was Leica this past 50 years?
One of the best of the interviews. No mention, but isn't that grip new. And, yes, Leica need professionals using the equipment for assignment.
Bilal Fotos: Sorry, I am not convinced the approach of Leica authorities about the designing of a new Leica M. The designing chance of Leica M is given to the new comers’ in the field rather than "Sir Jonathan Ive" but design must be accepted only according to the strict high level designing parameters. Basically I am a Graphic Designer but I have a trained eye regarding all the relevant fields of designing; unfortunately I have not got any chance in my life to express my creative abilities because I born in most ignorant part of the world ......! In short where world topmost designers end their design exercise I start thinking from there......! If Leica’s gives me a chance to design their new Leica M rangefinder, I assured that I will perform my duty with best of my competitive spirit, creative abilities, knowledge and believe.
Yes, a design contest would be neat.
Here's how old work can meet new world:http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/photokina_2012.shtml
Read the section: The Cutting Edge of Olde School.