Valiant Thor: I would have liked to see a digital version of the Hasselblad 501C/M with a large sensor and nice big EVF right on the top like the good old days.
I don't even need them to build a new camera. Just give me a (somewhat) affordable medium format digital back I can slap on a C/M and I'm happy.
Dare to dream...
Provia_fan: I can't understand the complaints about "retro" dials. I think the problem stems from the over simplification of designs over the years and the fact that people just want instant results, instant everything. In the old days you had to learn a given camera not expect the camera "to learn you". External controls are great and give you immediate control over features, instead of having to borrow into menus when you should be concentrating in picture taking. This is one of the reasons why I still love my Minolta 7D so much. Everything you need is one button or one click away, which is so much more logical. You learn the camera, you learn the buttons and you learn how many clicks for your exposure compensation, WB, etc and off you go. Not having to take you eye off the viewfinderto go into menus is a major bonus.
This is true. While I love Fuji's external controls, i.e. aperture rings, there's nothing that can't be changed just as easily on my 5D by pressing the appropriate button on the top plate and moving my index finger. In fact, I can change more on the 5D by a long shot.
That said, the simplicity of aperture ring, shutter speed and exposure comp as found on, say, the X100 is wonderful to work with if you don't need easy access to additional things like metering modes and drive modes. The tactile feedback is nicer than on a DSLR.... just not necessarily any better.
Donnie G: No surprises here. Canon is wisely selling the camera in Japan and Asia only, since those are the only places where mirrorless compact system cameras have had any kind of sales success. Unlike the competition, Canon doesn't have to throw money and resources away panning for gold in an unproven and unreliable revenue stream. If the EOS M cameras ever turn a significant profit for the company, then there will be incentive for major development of that system. Until then, it's just makes sense to stick with what works for the overwhelming majority of camera buyers on the planet, and that's DSLRs.
Yep. And everybody fails to mention that while Canon is "doing nothing" they've updated like half a dozen lenses in the last year or two and developed new tech like we've seen on the 70D.
I'll agree that their sensor tech needs an upgrade, but if anybody thinks they don't have something in the pipeline in that regard they're dreaming. They've still got the best system out there, soup to nuts.
Vizio Virtù: Wake up, folks. They try to sell you this mirrorless / EVF rubbish as innovation for your weightsaving comfort but actually it's only for their cost reducing purposes. Cutting off the OVF is cutting off photographers creativity.
I was in agreement with the OP a couple of years ago. When I bought my X100 I never touched the EVF. Now I barely touch the OVF. The ability to see exactly what the sensor sees is incredibly useful. You can make intuitive exposure adjustments without having to look at the meter, you can toggle histograms on and off within an EVF, and I can compose in black and white. All three of these things are incredibly useful. While I still don't like the lag that you experience with an EVF, the technology is improving every day. The benefits outweigh the costs as far as I'm concerned. I think many others are coming around as I did.
Collie Camp: Either you love or you hate these Fujis, it seems.
I used the X100, X-E1 and now the X-Pro1 and I love them.
I'm with you 100%. When it comes down to it I love these cameras, flaws and all. The files are just wonderful to work with. I'm really looking forward to the maturation of the technology; when these are as responsive in terrible conditions as my DSLR is I will finally be able to unload that stuff. Right now the Fuji's aren't responsive enough for paid event work, IMO, so the DSLRs stay. But Fuji is winning me over with these cameras. Maybe not everybody's cup of tea, but I think they're very nice.
Looks straight up Helios M42. Neat. I suspect it'll be a nice lens. Very useful focal length.
TFergus: All this 'purist' talk about it "finally looking like a camera" or "just what I've been wanting, a film-style camera"...
It's a cute look for a novelty "retro" camera, but if they really wanted to appeal to the 'purist' film shooters they should have removed the rear LCD and made us wait until we got home, and processed, to see what was actually captured. ;)
Or maybe that'd flop too. Whatever.
You may be joking, but I bet this camera would get a warmer reception if it were stripped down to nothing more than the controls on the top plate plus a D800 sensor, and they shaved a cool G off the price tag.
Richard Murdey: Holy locking dials, Batman! Just when Pentax and Olympus are relaxing the dogma and giving us de-lockable dials, Nikon comes along and gives Fort Knox with a viewfinder!
I have to unlock to change mode, ISO, EV comp, and - are they serious - shutter speed??
It would drive me absolutely bonkers...
So in order to get back to basics they made some dials, then put locks on the dials, and then made it so you could change those same parameters by circumventing the dials that were placed there and locked just to get back to the basics of having said dials?
Just want to be clear about their approach...
Well, this is odd. It's all about "pure photography", but it's not about interchangeable focusing screens or using the sensor they have that delivers maximum image quality? It's back to basics, except for the same old 42 buttons on the rear of the body. They took a D600, gave it a few analog dials and tacked $800 onto the price. Oh, and removed video capability for that "pure" experience. Strange.
No problem running the update. I'd had some issues with the camera applying random AFMA to different lenses, so hopefully things stay where they should from now on.
Pretty cool. Considering it'll probably be fine at ISO 6400 having a constant f/2.8 zoom should be fine. Want razor thin depth of field? Back up and zoom in.
m4/3 sure has a nice little system going.
As an avid X100 user I'd just like to say thanks to Fuji for not leaving us in the dust after a new model is released. It's refreshing to get more than you expect nowadays. Top notch all around.
Can anyone tell me if the X-Pro1 will display 35mm equivalent frame lines for this lens?
I'm sure Roger is thrilled that his work has been filed under "Epic Fail".
timo: Yes yes OK, they're very cute.
But is this what DPR is supposed to be all about? Or is this a traffic-generating ploy?
Sorry guys, but I think you are eroding your own position vis a vis the committed gear-heads (who, lets face it, have always been your core constituency).
"is this what DPR is supposed to be all about?"
Yeah, we wouldn't want to actually look at, you know, photographs or anything.
raincoat: I think DPR stuffed this by overpromising. "guaranteed to make you smile", "series of whimsical scenes" etc. I looked at the photos and was looking for this "whimsical scenes" that would blow my socks off.I didn't find it.
This is DPR. The photos may be high key but her skin is blown. People talk about that because it is DPR, not FB.
If the title and text were a bit less sensational, just promise me some nice creative photos, I would have been all over it. But sorry, this looks like an infomercial.
"But her skin is blown" killed me. Solid gold. Pretty much sums up the brain power behind most of these comments.
Michael Perham: Fuji is still the only mirror less with an optical viewfinder. I will trade the interchangeable lenses for that any day.
The OVF on a Fuji feels like a rangefinder. Pretty sure that's not a "gimmick".
Cailean Gallimore: Doesn't compare well to mirrorless cameras with aps-c sensors. Having said that, I expect that it will be a nice camera to use.
Yes, it doesn't "compare well" because they're not the same thing. Which would be most beneficial to your subject matter and presentation, an APS-C sensor and the characteristics it brings to the table, or a M4/3? The answer isn't the same for everyone. A street shooter who desires the largest depth of field possible with the fastest shutter speed may prefer a M4/3 format over a larger format, whereas a portrait photographer may prefer the look achieved with a medium format back. etc. etc.