Tom_A: I find it looks quite a bit like my XE-1.
It looks just like Panasonics old LC-1, but smaller.
emfor: Stressing the pure sensor score is like comparing cars just based on their engines output.The complete system matters as well as the intended purpose.For many professionals 50 MP for printing outweigh less dynamic range.Advanced mirror control helps to reduce camera shake and make a 50 MP camera usable hand held which may outweigh less dynamic range, too.Others need the best dynamic range available and will have to accept trade-offs elsewhere (lossy raws for example or the need for a tripod to avoid shake).So some will go for Canon, other for Niko, Sony etc.What's the problem?
BTW, waiting for another article about lossy raws, just to emphasize this lack of A7ii >:)
So Rishi:did you do a comparison when a shot like your nice tulip photo is bracketed (as any pro ((me)) would do), and then compare the results? I am wondering whether the differences in shadow noise, etc, would be different? I seem to have NO problems with DNR on my Canon 5D MK III, yet the way you talk, the Canon Dslrs are almost crippled compared to the Sony sensor cameras. I always bracket and exposure blend any high ev range scene (when possible) as do almost all of my pro friends. I would do the same with ANY DSLR camera, Sony sensor or not. If you have a payday riding on a shot, you wouldn't take a chance on screwing it up . It should be an interesting comparison in either case, as no one I know would just take a 13-14 ev shot and hope for the best, no matter what the camera.
CaliforniaDave: I just received a retail purchase RX100IV, and I don't think that the six applications that you mention are "included."
When I choose Application List on my RX100IV, I get three items:Smart Remote EmbeddedPlayMemories Camera AppsApplication Management
Is the camera you are reviewing a new retail purchase, or has it had applications added to it?
The one missing ingredient in all the Sony reviews I have read is this: what happens when it breaks? Sony now has a professional repair service, which has some pretty stringent requirements, and that’s OK, but what about the consumer stuff? My personal experience with Precision Camera is very poor, especially when compared to the CanNikon services. How about the old “on hold for 30minutes routine”, sending a camera back without ANY repair being done, etc, etc. Just do a bit of Googling on Precision for yourself. I think it would be nice to see some mention of what happens when your camera breaks in the reviews. I know this is not Consumer R*****s, but a $900 doorstop is something to think about. Again the new Sony Support Service Program for Pros is great, but you may not qualify.
Dragonrider: Further to below. Also, that 2.5 stop advantage at base ISO drops to 1.75. If you throw a D800E into the mix, it moves the high ISO numbers up to match the 5DS R , but no material change in the base ISO relative to the D810. The difference between these numbers and DXO's are probably not really significant in the real world, but it is tiring that DXO (and DPR with DXO's numbers) keeps pounding at Canon over one issue and exaggerate the problem to add insult to injury. If you are shooting 50 megapixels at base ISO, you best have the camera on a tripod (Where HDR is usually practical) in the vast majority of cases. From ISO 400 up (where almost all hand held shots will need to be taken at that resolution just to get sufficient shutter speed), the 5DS R is equal to or better than any of the full frame competition and only 1/3 of a stop off the 645Z mark. I am finding the camera takes amazing pictures, so enjoy it rather than whining about one tiny corner of the performance space.
Give up, Rishi will never stop trashing Canon. I can't believe they even send DPR cameras to test anymore.
radissimo: I bet my bum that this camera will be reviewed at 90- 92% (clear Gold Award sprinkled with a Platinum dust)
He just "pre" reviewed it and showed off his photos in one swelled foop!! Gosh, how do you even fit your head thruoght the door at work Ansel?
Why can't Nikon put a 1/8000 shutter speed on this "pro" camera. It certainly is a desirable feature to this 43 yr pro. Can it add that much to the cost?
cam2013: Canon is making people fool for using same sensor year after year after year and then gives name from t2i to future t36i.the only change is name and the only unchanged part is sesnor.same is true for power shot s95 to powershot s120.no change in sensor.nice way to fool people by selling same crap over and over with high price.
Yeah, Nikon would never do that....12mp, 12mp, 12mp for how many years?
When will DXO support the kit lens (16-50mm) for the NEX-6? Seems odd that all the other E lenses are supported, but not the lens that 95% of users get with the camera. Any ETA on this lens support?
Any chance of support for Canon's SRAW?
I just downloaded 8.1 to get the support for NEX-6, and the support for the lens that comes with the camera, the 16-50mm, is NOT THERE!! Every other E mount is there, except the one that comes standard - why? We don't need the 18-55mm with the NEX-6 ! When are you going to fix it?
Why is it every review Westlake does of a Canon product, he belittles and then tells you how great the Nikon version is. Why don't you peddle this stuff at the Nikonians.
I will use this body as a backup for my 5D3's, and it will serve well in my wedding biz, I am sure. I haven't used anything but the center focus point for years now, and it works out just fine. The WiFI is a great feature, as is the -3 EV. Considering that the camera is not out yet, Westlake sounds like just another Nikon fanboy, and he will criticize it no matter what. Who cares what he thinks.
R N: They both look good. Just want to point out that in the two shots
the D800 shows moire in the building top above and to the left of Pier 17... and even moire distracting, moire in the water that shows up as color splotches. Very interesting and informative video comparison.
avoid moire?? good luck.
I was thinking of pickup a D800 body for my wedding biz, but frankly the high ISO performance stinks, what a disappointment. The 5DIII is far better for weddings......