SemperAugustus: If you are making money from your images $10 a month is reasonable, but if you are a hobbyist, amateur or just enthusiast, then IMHO is best to invest in another SW e.g. Corel Paint Shop Pro or even PSE For a photographer, LR is probably 90% of what you ever going to need, specially if you add some plugins like Nik Collection and Perfect Effects. They have the ability to add layers and blending. They also have some masks (not as powerful as PS) but adequate in most cases. Trying CC and cancelling is not a realistic option, PS is not something that you learn overnight, it does take years. So when you cancel your sub, not only you are left with no SW, you are letting go many man-days of effort and learning. Why not put that effort into some other SW.... Corel PSP has layers, masks, blending modes, selections, etc.... you could use LR for ACR and then trigger Corel PSP for a single image editing.
I have used Corel PSP in the past, I actually downloaded the X6 to give it a test drive now that is 64 bit. I know it is capable and I would use it, but it doesn't make sense for me while I have PS CS6, which has a lot more polished capabilities...e.g. when cloning, the brush will show exactly what you will be painting... it is this kind of refinement that gives PS the advantage TODAY. Corel can easily match those and grab the photographer segment, leaving the graphic designers to ADBE.
Pumeco, thanks for your "classy" contribution
kbfo: Can somebody explain to me why we in Europe have to pay 65% more (12,29 € = $ 16,6) than US citizen?
Any idea how to pay the $10 fee?
I am guessing that the IVA is included, where in USA and Canada tax is NEVER included and has to be added later. e.g. The CC $20 price is really $22.6 in Ontario where the tx is 13%, but it would be $23 in Atlantic Canada where the tax is %15
Danny: I have €250 waiting for you Adobe, but only if I can buy the latest PS upgrade and own a copy of it. Not even a cent I will pay for your Cloud. Not even if it was for free.
Add my C$200 to the list...
I am with you 100%. I can't bring myself to add yet another monthly bill ... I have the same plan, use PS CS6 until dies on my Win 7 PC (which I just built)....then go to either PSE or Corel PSP + Plugins. I will probably upgrade LR every 2-3 years until it goes the same route. I will then assess other alternatives out there. Eventually somebody will develop an ACR equivalent, that day ADBE can go to hell.
If you are making money from your images $10 a month is reasonable, but if you are a hobbyist, amateur or just enthusiast, then IMHO is best to invest in another SW e.g. Corel Paint Shop Pro or even PSE For a photographer, LR is probably 90% of what you ever going to need, specially if you add some plugins like Nik Collection and Perfect Effects. They have the ability to add layers and blending. They also have some masks (not as powerful as PS) but adequate in most cases. Trying CC and cancelling is not a realistic option, PS is not something that you learn overnight, it does take years. So when you cancel your sub, not only you are left with no SW, you are letting go many man-days of effort and learning. Why not put that effort into some other SW.... Corel PSP has layers, masks, blending modes, selections, etc.... you could use LR for ACR and then trigger Corel PSP for a single image editing.
mpgxsvcd: I can't help but think that if this image was entered into a challenge it would get ripped apart for technical flaws. I like the concept and I can appreciate the effort it took to produce it. However, the blurred stars in the water were just too distracting.
I think it would be an excellent image if you just crop the water out all together.
Kim,Nobody can predict the mind of an artist, this is what gave us Van Gogh, Manet, Kandinski or Dali... your assumption that the reflection of Kirkjufell should be in the water is closer to a documenting view of the image than at an artistic one. You are entitled to look at my response as "elitist", but I think too many times photographers allow themselves to be cast into documenting an event or a subject.
"this image was entered into a challenge it would get ripped apart for technical flaws" ... this is the reason why artists should not submit their works to the opinion of technocrats whose only focus is to evaluate the "technical" aspects of what should be considered art.
SemperAugustus: Well here are my photographic exploration of Johan Vermeer works, I have created my own story which can be read in the description..... http://levin-rodriguez.artistwebsites.com/art/all/vermeer/all BTW, all other Galleries are also photographic explorations on Dutch Golden Age painters like Ambrosious Bosschaert, Pieter Claesz, Heda and others.
Thanks Buzz..... I call it "Photographic Painting".... which paiting by using photographic tools....here is a more detailed "definition" if you will..http://levinrodriguez.blogspot.ca/2012/08/about-photographic-painting.html
Some comments seem to see the use of filters, software and other techniques as a detriment of the final image. IMHO, this is true ONLY when talking about photographs that are meant to be documentary or for journalism. When the artist choose a photograph as a derivative or the source of an art piece then, there are no rules. The final products is a result of what the artist envisioned and it may look simple once is done, but the idea was originated in the artist mind. That's the difference.... the challenge is never to think that it can be done with this or that tool, the artistic challenge is to have the idea/vision in the first place.
RoccoGalatioto: Painting and photography are totally different arts. If you must paint, learn how to put paint on a canvass. Photography is a totally different medium. It may look easy but getting superb images is very hard. Photographers should not waste time imitating panting they should use their imagination at capturing the instant and the very graphical images that the medium allows to capture. Although at first photography appears very naturalistic, it can be so, it has the potential to be the most surrealistic. My opinion. If you like an image who cares what or how it's made from. Life is too short. ENJOY
I disagree, no creative work is a waste of time as long as bring satisfaction and reflection to the creator and others. Just because a particular type of work has no value to you, it does not mean that this assumption applies to others. Photography can be or not a different medium, I see it as different set of tools to make something that looks like a painting.... which is what I choose to do.... and I have enjoyed enormously as it has pushed me to be more creative not just with my tools (camera, story, props) but also with the story to be communicated. At the end, it is all it matters at least to me.You should try sometime....
Well here are my photographic exploration of Johan Vermeer works, I have created my own story which can be read in the description..... http://levin-rodriguez.artistwebsites.com/art/all/vermeer/all BTW, all other Galleries are also photographic explorations on Dutch Golden Age painters like Ambrosious Bosschaert, Pieter Claesz, Heda and others.
Carlos C: Update:I just chatted with and Adobe sales person...you can still buy CS6, but seems for not too much longer...see parts of the chat below:
Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Phillip. How may I help you today?Phillip: Hi, may I have your first name please?you: can i still buy CS6 outright?Carlos : CarlosCarlos : is my first namePhillip: Hello Carlos,Phillip: Sure, let me help you with the information.Phillip: You can buy CS6 outright, however, let me inform you that CarlosPhillip: Going forward customers using Adobe products have to upgrade every year, this will soon become mandatory. This runs up to the same price as to the Cloud membership. Its the smartest decision to invest in Creative Cloud in the longer run.Phillip: All of our customers are moving to Cloud as it is the new offering from Adobe. They have liked what Cloud can do and hence are subscribing to Cloud.
@BoinkphotoI agree, the last time I checked, Phillips is not a popular name in India.
lasvideo: Almost 40,000 folks have signed.They don’t like Adobe Creative Cloud licensing.Show @Adobe how you feel. https://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-mandatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model
Another more fiscal way to show @Adobe you dont like the CC licensing scheme.http://adobe2014.tumblr.com #adobe2014
The best way to show ADBE that you do not condone their forcing on you is NOT to subscribe. Adobe CEO WILL NOT care, you can see the video that Barry listed above...this is a shameless individual. He will only listen to the Board when they ask him why revenues are decreasing...
Sandyramirez: How does this affect current CC subscribers?
@rickioI don't think it will automatic.... have you seen the interview with ADBE's CEO... the man has no shame...
LarH: Its still extortion money, pay us every month or your business suffers. Just like organised crime.
7726 views! this needs to be seen by anybody who uses ADBE products... they need to understand what kind of state of mind is behind this. A man who has no shame, what a d bag!
JackFM: Oh, interest is not spinning? Well, very well - no one does not want to pay the normal fee. CS6 enough for years. No CS = nothing more than Adobe for ever ... Buy soft Adobe since 2002 and now Adobe is doing me such a dirty trick spending just CC. I liked Adobe, once.
September 17 quarterly results - they want to multiply the number of customers in the results to show how well they are doing. Looking naive.
We is not about the price. This subscription is bad ... but Adobe does not want to understand.
" This subscription is bad ... but Adobe does not want to understand"... they actually do understand that is bad for you and me, it will be very good for the CEO and executives...
Charlie boots: This does not alter the fact that if you don't pay you cannot use the Software at all and thus cannot easily access your images.
If you buy it you are better off.
I will upgrade from cs5 to cs6 before year end and continue to upgrade lightroom. Cs6 is already more than I need and good enough for all of my needs. By upgrading lightroom i will continue to receive updated raw convertors for all new cameras.
WLADWhere is LR worth $100? ADBE says is $150...are they wrong?
matt carson: I am a bit confused by the wording of the offer. I don't like renting software, but could probably live with $10/month, but are we getting rental access to PS CC's latest version AND Lightroom's latest version forever. The wording above is "That price will never change, as long as you sign up before the end of this year." So I suppose I am wondering in two years will I have LR7 and the most up to date PS CC or will I have LR5 or will LR5 no longer be supported and I will have LR7 but my cost will be $20/month. Will PS CC change its name to PS CC2 in a year and again my "subscription" be void cause it applied only to PS CC1? I think I could justify $120/year forever if I had the most up to date software forever, but is this the case. Also people are mentioning an inability to edit photos the did on PS CC if they stop paying, I am confused by that, can't you just save them as Tiff or jpg and edit them with other software if you decide to cancel PS CC? Thanks
Be assured that they will find a way to move you to a higher renting "offer"....how, I don't know, Stu5 who works for ADBE may be able to explain...