flymodel: No IS, no flash, no tilting LCD and ugly - it won't sell regardless of price.Sigma has a great sensors and tons of lenses but they should fire their designers and marketing analysts; what a wasted potential for how many years now? :(
No flash!!!...Expect the DPM's to be bright daylight use only cameras in that case!
Auke B van der Weide: excellent!!!!reminds me of my favourite walkaround camera in the filmdays, the Olympus Mju. Great lens, big sensor, and a point and shoot button, what more do you need
what more do you need?...An interchangable lensmount!
Anzere08: I liked my DP1 but 2.8 for a prime is not a fast lens anymore in 2012
f2.8 has'nt been considered fast since the fifties!And for HowAboutRaw...Neither of the new DPM's should have had a fixed lens at all. EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder/Interchangable Lens) cameras are now where its at and interchangable lens mounts have become a standard design feature of virtually all new compact cameras...If the DPM's had an interchangable lens mount they would have been worth paying a lot more for than they are now because it would open up the use of rmuch faster non-Sigma lenses...Of course, the reason they dont have an interchangable mount is for that exact same reason...Users would no longer have to purchase lenses from Sigma, so just like Sigma, they prefer to trap you into using Sigma glass only.
whtchocla7e: Best news I've heard all year. Deep down inside.. I had hope.The X100 is no longer a contender for me.
Big fevon in a small package. Dreams do come true.
Seriously, if your looking for the best compact camera camera currently available, get the Sony NEX-7...It actually has an interchangable lens mount so you wont be stuck with a single fixed FL slow prime. In lab tests its been proved that the NEX-7 has the same resolution as the sensor in the SD1 and the new DPM's, but it has MUCH better high ISO performance, its much faster to use, both from startup and with its amazing 10 fps. It also has a substantially bigger buffer than you would get in a DPM, its LCD screen has a much higher resolution than the screen in the DPM's and its also articulated....It also offers stunning full HD 1080P video, with stereo audio noless...Trust me, you will be lucky to get low-res 640x480 VGA video and mono audio with a DPM.The NEX-7 is currently less than a grand in the UK...I would expect either of the DPM's to cost at least that, but probably more...So what are you waiting for?...Get the NEX-7, now!
HowaboutRAW: Look, like the SD1, these cameras are unlikely to be able to shoot above about 640ASA.
Sigma needs to do something about the terrible extraction software; it's both slow and then there's the big banding problem.
Adobe Camera RAW will open files from the DP2x; that software sure is faster, and it's easier to control colour. Sigma needs to work with Adobe here on this SD1 based camera.
But ACR does'nt work properly with Sigma RAW files...Only SPP should be used to process them as it gives the best results.PS should then be used to make any further tweaks you need on the resulting Tiffs or Jpegs.
f2.8 has'nt been considered fast since the fifties!
I Wayan Pica: Love this new toy... and.., my dear Nikon, will you strip out the video feature, please... How much will you charge me for that.. hahaha...
To be frank, with no 60fps at 1080p option they may as well not have bothered adding video in the first place!
Debankur Mukherjee: Excellent Specs but FF cameras seems to be more out of reach of amateurs.....instead of declining the prices are climbing high with every release ......
Er, whats Film? ;)
SirKingly: What a great new SLR...
But only for those who already have a collection of Nikon mount lenses. ;)I would wait till the 5D MkIII is announced before you decide to splash your cash on a D800, or not...Its probably only about a month away from announcment so if your patient it could reap benefits.
phoenix15: Wow, 36 Mpx is really a big jump from 12 Mpx in D700. If it is lighter than D700, then this is my dream DSLR to replace my current Nikon D-90.
I am not going to buy anything else in the future if I have nikon D800. I actually don't care about video capability, since I am not really into it. I love taking picture, thus the higher pixel count does matter so much. With nikon D-90, I got much grainy photo at ISO higher than 800.
My best combo for the next camera will be Nikon 800 and Pentax K-01 to replace my mirrorless olympuss.
The D90 only does 720p video...wait till you get a load of 1080p video, you might change your mind!The D90 has an old generation 2T-3T per photosite sensor giving ISO3200 tops...The D800 is only a stop faster despite having newer generation 4T photosites, because of it high pixel density...So I would'nt expect it to be significantly better for high ISO noise than your D90.
Aaron Shepard: If you want to know the prime reason for such a high resolution sensor, here it is: Videographers can shoot full HD with DX lenses as well as FX. This gives the D800 a versatility in video that nothing else can match.
I assume your joking?...The fact it has a Nikon mount instantly makes it *far* less versitile for video use than any modern Canon DSLR. The 36mp stills resolution makes *zero difference* to its video resolution as 1080p video is now standard on most modern DSLR's, irrespective of brand, even ones with far lower stills resolution than the D800. And no 60fps at 1080p, hardly a videographers dream!...Even the Canon 7D can do 60fps at 1080p.
Sumicron69: Sigma has brought me some of the best and worst lenses I have used. I hope they can bring some tempting new products to market. But really what is up with the whole SD1 concet. Innoative yes but the pricing was established by someone smoking crack.
"But it is APS-C, giving it an advantage with long lenses in the field."
APS-C offers no advantage in the field...It only offers a narrower FOV compared to full frame camera fitted with the same lens!
"On top of that, it has a price tag that is $1,000 less than the D3x."
Rubbish!...In the UK the SD1 is £600 more than the 3DX!
"WTF is wrong with you people? Are you blind?"
Nope, in fact my eyesight is so good I was easily able to see that the SD1 is equivalent to a 24mp Bayer camera, like the NEX-7, in the Luminous Landscape resolution tests...Or did you fail to see them?
"Hope these two lenses will save sony nex system......."
But it does'nt need saving!...Its already very successfull without these two new Sigma lenses, plus with all the E-mount adapters available and its short registration distance, you actually have a bigger choice of lenses than the Canon EF mount!
Francis Carver: Gee-whiz, thanks for (almost) nothing, Sir.
"DSLRs will always stay at the top' Yamaki told us - 'the benefit of a DSLR is of course the optical viewfinder."
Interesting. Of course:
1. DSLRs will probably go bye-bye in 8-10 years time.
2. You do not have to have a mirror in a camera for it to have an optical VF. Doesn't Mr. Yamaki know this, I wonder?
Re. the SD1 -- that is probably the most crazily priced DSLR body out there at the moment. What were they thinking, for cripe's sake?Also, how about putting some VIDEO FEATURES into your cameras, like everybody else is already doing for quite some time, Sigma?
"Until such time as the EVF can present the view AS IT HAPPENS instead of a few microseconds AFTER IT HAPPENS, there will be a need for OVFs on DSLRs."
Never heard of liveview? Its now a standard feature on most DSLR's (Not the SD1 though), making the OVF pretty much redundant, unless your trying to save battery power.
petr marek: It´s obvious, that "doing everything by ourselves from scratch" is not good strategy to build progressive, reliable and affordable camera in time. It´s not good for Foveon. I can imagine, that in few years Sigma will have a new affordable camera, little better than SD1, but that time everybody will be shooting 4K video on Foveon type sensor from Panasonic or Fujifilm...
Its not just the processor thats Spartan...The features the SD1 offers are very Spartan too!
AbrasiveReducer: While I am generally opposed to trying to fool people with prestiege brand names, if I were a product manager for Sigma I would have come up with a different "Lexus" name to go with a camera in this price range. Fabulon, Sigmalux....
Anybody remember when the president of the U.S. Alpa distributor called each purcasher personally, to thank them? Now that was value for money. I don't think he made too many phone calls.
Oh I dont know...Sigma need something to help iron out their current financial problems!
Retro Joe: what a joke; the real truth is the SD1 is ridiculously priced...and people aren't foolish enough to lay out money for such a poorly reviewed camera. Maybe the time has come to own up to Sigma sensor being not much better than that of an advanced compact.
"Do we happen to know ANYONE who had actually purchased a Sigma SD1 DSLR? Anyone at all?"
Only a tiny handfull of individuals, numbering less than 20 people, and the majority of them almost certainly got their SD1 direct from Sigma for free, in reward for vounteering to be an SD1 Beta tester.In fact, currently there are probably only about ten individuals worldwide that were stupid enough to part with a huge wad of their hard earned cash to get an SD1. Which makes it the biggest flop since the Spruce Goose!
danaceb: If there is one thing Sigma (and others) need to learn its; you cannot pass on your failure to the customer.
At least he seems to get it; but it would have been better for Sigma to cut prices greatly and gain some back with SD1 sales, than next to nothing at all; which is where they are now.
"For now though, they are still relegated to "bargain lens company" status. I think the SD1 may be a step toward shedding that image."
Thats obviously what Sigma hoped would happen, but its been an umitigated disaster for them as they still only have an extremely small market presence...Ask anyone you meet in the street if they know that Sigma even make camera lenses let alone cameras and the vast majority of replies will be a resounding NO!They simply have'nt been in the camera business long enough yet or released anything yet that has gained them significant widespread public aclaim, which they need to start the ball rolling towards being a well recognised camera brand.They were far too impatient and stupidly thought they could simply jump to the top of the market overnight by pricing the SD1 way over the budgets of their current and potential user base.Now they have been relagated to being little more than the laughing stock of the camera industry as a result.
Richard Murdey: Not all technology progresses at the same rate. Sigma bet on the wrong horse with Foveon, just like Hitachi and plasma displays. The difference is Sigma aren't willing to accept defeat and move on.
But Luminous Landscapes resolution tests clearly show the SD1's resolution to be equivalent to a camera with a 24mp Bayer sensor...Like the NEX-7 for instance. Now consider that the NEX-7 has all the features the SD1 should have had to make it competitive, including true high-def video, a high res LCD screen (which is articulated too!), liveview, 10 FPS etc, plus a bigger choice of lenses than even the Canon EF mount, and all for less than a grand!...It makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to think of a single sane reason to buy an SD1...
Gene Hack: the problem is not only the steep price of the cam.If it were a superior camera to all existing DSLRs, people would at last accept it.The fundamental issue is, that they have issues with the sensor. 7F stops dynamical range is something NO PROFESSIONAL photographer, let alone ambitioned amateurs accept.Weak greens, smeared color transitions and lifeless color balance worsen this.No listening at all to the customer, and having a pitbull defending shilled user base over at the Sigma forum with passive support for this behaviour by the company kill this product.PR at worst.
Say what you like, I think Gene is quite correct about the SD1's low dynamic range...I've seen enough SD1 samples by now to know its an inherrant problem with the SD1's sensor design.In terms of dynamic range the SD1 is totally outclassed by the SD14 and SD15 as their larger photosites are inherrantly less noisy.
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