xlotus: Since NEX 3N has been on sale for $329 and NEX 5R is currently on sale for $439, would anybody still prefer to buy the A3000? and why?
@T3: You are not entirely correct. NEX 3N does have a built-in flash. 5R does come with an external flash like my 5N although not seem to be mentioned anywhere . I agree that Sony need mirrorless camera in DSLR form factor but I think Sony starts this model too low on some features that it fails to appeal to a wider audience. That will limit its success.
Since NEX 3N has been on sale for $329 and NEX 5R is currently on sale for $439, would anybody still prefer to buy the A3000? and why?
xlotus: -low res LCD and viewfinder-no tilting screen-no touch screen-no proximity sensor-few buttons and same terrible NEX menu-only up to 16000 ISO
It seems made for people who like the DSLR shape but only know how to push the shutter button.Even though the street price is expected to be at $400, I can see it soon falls further down to $300 or even $250.
Even if the price drops to that level, I would prefer to pick up a Panasonic G5, EOS M or Samsung NX1000/NX210. Even Sony's own NEX 3N is more preferable than this silly DSLR-lookalike.
@Rob Sims: I am sure you are smart enough to figure out why D4 costs as much as it is and why it's worth it. My comment about A3000 made for people who only know to push shutter button came from dpreview comment which basically said that this camera does not seem to be made to attract enthusiasts with its dumbed-down features compared to other Sony NEX cameras. About the only two favorable A3000 features are the DSLR-shape and the 20Mpix sensor.
@Marvol: only time will tell if A3000 can convince buyers at large that it is a better buy compared to a real DSLR - entry level that is. Amazon Top 100 best seller digital cameras can provide the answer. I will be keeping watch to see if A3000 sells better than the competing real DSLRs. Btw, A3000 would appeal to me if Sony keeps the NEX common features, the ones I mentioned in my initial post.
I was comparing A3000 with other NEX cameras which have those features. I was also asking myself, if I have $400 to spend for a new camera, what can I get / what are the options out there? Well, I mentioned several cameras in that price level and even lower in some cases.
To me, the other models I mentioned simply are more well rounded cameras. They provide rich features while still produce great images.
A3000 takes a few steps backward in order to lower the price and as dpreview commented, assumed that non enthusiasts would be interested to buy a DSLR-shaped mirrorless camera. Time will tell if this model will fly off the store shelves.
@T3 I think it is unfair to compare current camera features with those from a while back. Would Ansel Adam prefer to use his film camera if a modern digital camera existed back then? I am sure he would pick up a more capable camera whenever possible.
-low res LCD and viewfinder-no tilting screen-no touch screen-no proximity sensor-few buttons and same terrible NEX menu-only up to 16000 ISO
G Sciorio: Theres are features built into the GH3.
continue...Yes, kudos to Panasonic for having those features built-in. I hope they will be available in next G series body.Pro or not pro does not matter to me. The end results are the things that matter.
I had Canon 60D, T1i, Pany GH2, G3 and GF2 a while back. While I like that there are so many buttons and dials on the GH2 (meaning I can change settings easily without going to menus), the size and weight is a deal breaker to me. It is too close to T1i (or any Canon Rebel line) that size and weight advantage of m43 pretty much gone. It was for that reason that I returned the GH2 and kept the G3. Now I noticed that GH3 is even larger so I thought it must be about the same size as Canon Rebel DSLR and I was right. Check this comparison between GH3 and T4i on this website: http://camerasize.com/compare/#381,333
Pricey? Yes. At $1300 body only, it costs even more than OMD-EM5. There are plenty of consumer/prosumer DSLRs and mirrorless camera models that are far cheaper. So for me, it's now a G5 + external intervalomer. I have a wired as well a wireless one with modular cable that I can use with different camera makes and models. Cheaper and smaller.
A built-in intervalometer is great but the GH3 apparently has an issue with this feature. You can read the article here: http://timelapse.org/2013/02/panasonic-gh3-for-timelapse-problems/Plus, GH3 itself is bulky for a mirrorless camera and expensive.I hope Panasonic will include this feature on next release of G series.An external intervalometer only costs about $30 for the wired version and can be used with any cameras that accepts the same connector.
Stoneysanpper: Official web page does not mention 5Diii or the 6D in the compatibility list.
There should be only two types for Canon DSLRs. The one that comes with Canon N3 proprietary connector is compatible with Canon 5D Mk 1/2/3, 7D, 6D and the 1D series and xxD except 60D.The other one comes with E3 connector which is identical to mini stereo jack, is compatible with Canon Digital Rebel family and 60D.The cable from the bluetooth receiver to the camera remote jack is modular.So if you have both Canon 60D and 6D for example, buy one set with N3 cable, then buy only the cable with E3 connector.
brian1366: Cool device, although not very compact for what it does. Also looks like my phone is too old to work with it.
The bulk of the bluetooth receiver that sits on the hot shoe is mainly due to the battery. Perhaps, it takes two AAA batteries. The electronic circuit itself is very compact.They can reduce the size down by using smaller battery but then the battery can become expensive and hard to find.The brain of the intervalometer itself is in the app.If you don't like bulky accessories, you can use a tethered intervalometer for Canon.
Midnighter: In my opinion if you go with APS-C in a compact mirror-less camera you still cant make a lens system small enough relative to a similar full frame system, I guess because of sensor size and aspect ratio. Thats why micro four thirds just feels like a balanced system and not lens-heavy, its the Goldilocks zone between sensor size and aspect ratio for a compact interchangeable system. APS-C will slowly sail into the half way house between micro four thirds and full frame I think.... too big to be made compact but never big enough to replace full frame.
I currently have APS-C DSLR and mirrorless, m43, Nikon 1 and Pentax Q. I can say that there is gradual difference in sensor size between Nikon 1, m43 and APS-C. If a native lens is made for an APS-C, it will not be significantly bigger than the m43 lenses. Similarly, that explains why Nikon 1 lenses are not much smaller than m43 lenses of same focal length.
I own a Tamron 70-300 VC for Canon and their image stabilization is very effective, almost as good as Canon's latest lenses.Coming from a company that only a few years ago introduced their first VC lens I think it is very impressive.
I also own Panasonic 45-200, 100-300 and 45-170. I can tell you that Pany OIS is significantly worse than Tamron VC or Canon IS.With that said, I'd rather buy this Tammy 14-150 VC lens any given day than Pany 14-140 OIS, if it is priced right.
bloodycape: If only it started at something wider than 14mm, even 13mm would have been fine with me. Or at least ended at f4.5
Uh-oh! $700 for Oly 9-18 at only F4-5.6 and that is not EXPENSIVE???
I am a longtime customer of Giottos tripods and ballheads. Both my ballheads however have become damaged even with light use. This is due to design flaw that caused the main and tension knobs to locked up. I would never buy Giottos ballheads again and advise anyone from doing so.
The tripods however are a different story. I still own five Giottos tripods to this day. In the past, I tried to contact Giottos to point out some improvements that they can make with their tripods.
What I hate from them, they never updated their website (www.giottos.com) even though they have come up with new products.To me, a company that does not keep their website updated and exciting indicates that the company is not doing well.Indeed they have stiff competition from many newer names whose products copy each other: Benro, Induro, Feisol, Sirui for example. Others use more English sounding names like Redged, Photoclam and many others.
sorinx: Faster focusing. Tiltable screen. Touchscreen. It just needs a good all-around lens. 16-70 F4, or something like that.
I agreed with what Sorinx said. Plus, I hope NX300 has much improve write performance than all its predecessors.
A 20-50 is not wide enough on APS-C camera.A 16-50 like the new one from Sony is much more useful.Any lenses, even cheap ones, look good at F8. It doesn't prove anything.
Cane: Cool looking but I hate those screw turn legs.
Agreed. That's really a stupid design - 5 segments per leg.Not only that it takes time unscrewing and screwing each segment, but the tripod itself becomes highly prone to vibration due to using small diameter tubes. I prefer 3-segment tripods.Btw, it seems that only Gitzo makes shorter tripods (below eye level when fully extended) with large diameter legs.
Sergey Borachev: I can hear a big sigh of relief from Panasonic and Olympus!
At least for now, there is little threat from Canon. This is mainly Canon's attempt to stop its DSLR owners deserting to M43 or NEX cameras, as owner of EF lenses are the main target. New buyers, those upgrading from P&S, and also those more demanding enthusiasts will not be so happy with this camera. With no IBIS, no possibility of any viewfinder, this is offering little threat to other mirrorless makers. When a better model is released, and when there are more lenses, then it may be more threat, but still it would be mainly to Sony, then to M43. M43 still has a clear advantage in terms of size (especially lens sizes) and lens line-up even if Canon would release a high-end model matching the features of the better M43 cameras. But Canon won't for a long time due to its DSLR business.
This is a compromised short-sighted approach. Lens size will still be too big, defeating much of the mirrorless cause. And no IBIS.
I also own an Olympus EPM1. There is nothing to write home about its autofocusing speed indoor nor the IBIS either. Panasonic is definitely the king in AF speed in good light or low light.As far as physical size, the Sony 18-55 for NEX is about the same size as Pany 14-42. I know for sure because unlike you, I own both cameras. Sorry, no size advantage for m43 kit lenses and short primes lenses when compared to APS-C mirrorless cameras. This is to be expected simply by comparing the sensor size.
Jokica: Can someone justify price difference between Canon EOS M (with18-55) and Sony NEX-5n (with18-55)?-------------------------------Battery Life (CIPA) 230 ?
Historically, Canon consumer/prosumer cameras (DSLR or not) would see a price drop within 3-6 months after launch date. I got my 60D for $900, $200 less the list price in about 3 months after the announcement. Sony NEX 5N which I also own, has been in the market for about a year and the price has not come down.
Gesture: What distinguishes the GH line for the G line?
That is not correct. The GF is the entry level as evident on the simplified interface and staying with 12 mpix sensor.The G and GX are priced identically with GH a bit higher price. They all have the 16 mpix sensor, The G and GH have articulating screen and both are shaped like mini DSLR with EVF. The GX has fixed screen and follows the brick/p&s form factor with no EVF. The GH is often touted as superior for video although personally I don't see the difference between the G and GH (I used to have both, now I only have the G). One more thing, the GH is bigger and heavier while the G is smaller.
I don't know what's wrong with these people, whining about the focal length.
m43 has 20mm (=40mm FF). There. It's not just Canon.
It's small and inexpensive. I will get one for sure.