abortabort: I love all the comparisons to the D800 in the comments here (and to some extent in the reviews), but here's the thing:
The A7/R are not competing with the D800, nor 5D III. They are already very competent cameras and if they are what you are after I am sure a friendly retailer will be able to help you get your fix.
Fact is the A7/R don't have any natural competitors, they offer us something that we've never had before. So the comparisons are largely meaningless. We don't usually compare a D800 to a 1DX now do we? Why? They are both full frames right? Yeah but they are in a different class, that is why most of the time we don't compare them.
But when we find something that defies comparison due to being something completely new, we tend to grasp onto whatever we see as closest, but that doesn't really work does it?
I mean when the iPhone came out I saw lots of comparisons to this and that, Windows Mobile, Nokia E70, Palm Centro, BlackBerry etc. But it couldn't be directly compared because it was something new.
If you are going to try to compare to something, it would have to be the Leica M's, not a D800 or whatever. Think of the D800 and it's ilk as a desktop computer, a workhorse for getting shiz done. Now think of the A7/R as a shiny new smartphone, super cool, but when you compare it to the workhorse it could NEVER replace it right? I mean there are so many things it can't do that the big powerful desktop can do... it's a 'toy' for rich people with more money than sense right?
Yep, now is a time to stand up and proudly condemn the A7/R in the same way you said they would have to prise your Window Mobile, or Palm or Nokia from your cold dead hands and how a smartphone would never be anything more than a gimmick.
Remember that iPhone didn't even have apps. No 3G. No GPS. Battery life was terrible. Couldn't video call... and all the rest.
Now go back to condemning then for not having 30 years worth of accumulated lenses and short battery life. (even though they have 30 years of accumulated lenses).
I don't think A7r is competing FF DSLR, but A7R Mark II probably will.
sgoldswo: Just curious, but other than build quality and resolution (which is a curse as well as a blessing) why is this rated a good bit higher than the A7? To my mind, the A7 is the better of the two, more manageable RAWs, less noisy shutter, faster AF etc.
Not true at all.http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinstelbrink/sets/72157638008570035/
I feel A7 and A7r should share the same score after reading both reviews, considering the price difference and not so much difference other than pixel count.
" the a7R has the unique ability to adapt to nearly every 35mm lens ever made thanks to a wide array of available adapters, most of them limiting these lenses to manual focus."
Not true at all. Most of non-telecentric rangefinder wide angle lens below 35mm is almost unusable with A7r.
Image Samples. So much better than any NEX.
This silver body may look nice with Contax G lenses.
Joachim Gerstl: So that's how you are supposed to hold it. Now it makes perfect sense.
Mylene_777: It's design is so cool but the 'APS-C' logo on front cover looks awkward.
forpetessake: If the AF performance is indeed what Sony claims, then the slaughter of DSLRs, SLTs is about to begin. I wonder what rabbits Canon/Nikon are going to pull out of their respective hats.
There is no reason that the AF speed of mirrorless is inferior to the DSLR forever, because it should be all depends on AF algorithm. SONY focusing system is already more precise and practical for MF than DSLR.
Dear Jeff Keller,
I'm wondering if you actually have touched this camera and write this review. Everyone who actually touched the camera except you seems to have very different opinion about the EVF from yours. It's pretty confusing...
imaging-resource.com says that the A6000's EVF is the clear winner as it produces much more accurate colors and easy to discern details, compare to NEX 6. hmm...
Gapless microlens is nice.
DVT80111: EVF downgraded from 2.36M to 1.44M.No new sensor technology for low light.
Boy, talking about customer satisfaction. Any NEX-6 owners out there should be very happy that your camera has not been obsoleted yet.
The refresh rate is higher and suitable to the fast moving object, according to the source.
SteveY80: I'm surprised that the EVF has been downgraded compared with the NEX 6...
I guess it's probably the same 1.4mp model that's in the RX10, and by all accounts there's nothing wrong with that, but I'd have thought that they'd be showing off their best technology in this camera.
They say refresh rate is MUCH higher and much easier to see the moving object. This is the FAST camera, I think.
Visit Official Web site:
OK, no sample photos. I really want to see how much IQ is actually improved, although I hate the design. I believe that the current trend is smaller and more stealth cameras. This camera is totally opposite direction.
mpgxsvcd: This camera looks like it is trying to be different for the sake of being different not for the sake of being better.
There is probably not much innovation inside, so the outside has to be like this...
raztec: The more I read about what Panasonic, Fuji, Olympus, Sony and Pentax are doing, the more I dislike CaNikon with their incredible greed and pretentiousness and lack of innovation.
These two companies are riding on their name only and either charging ridiculous amounts of money for their high end products or putting out consumer oriented crap.
I can't wait to sell all my Nikon gear and invest completely in another system.
I dislike Canon because they intentionally remove the function from their "non-pro" cameras to sell MUCH more expensive "Professional" cameras. The lack of the innovation is not from the technical limitations, obviously.
This camera will boost the Speed Booster sales.
Jogger: Although there is a lot of hype on this forum for this camera, the fact is that m43 is a non-player in the cine market. Others such as Sony and Canon have long released dedicated S35 and FF cine cameras (C100, FS700, F55, F65, etc). This market is dominated by S35 cameras. Whereas, the only m43 cine camera, the Pana AG100 never took off. The m43 mount BMP is even more of a compromise, and after the hype, its fading away.
So the reason you dont see these specs on Sony/Canons is that they dont need to... they are already catering to this market, but, you wont see the F55, F5, etc mentioned on here.
I don't know where you got this idea....
ThePhilips: DPR, can you make an article about bags for mirrorless cams?
Most camera bags I could find fall into two categories:
- Too large for the smaller package (esp lens pockets are way oversized even for Oly 1.8/45). (A.K.A. DSLR bags.)
- Fit camera+lens well, but have little/no room for extra lenses, not even the pancakes. (A.K.A. P&S/video cam bags.)
And too heavy. Cameras are lighter and lighter, but the bag is heavier and heavier these days.