Jimmy jang Boo: Pardon me, but what's the point of a MILC if it still requires big lenses?
And speaking of native (cough) lenses...
So you would like to have long and fast lenses that are not big? What's the point in complaining about physics?
photonius: As pointed out by SickVodka, it's not really a Swiss company. To summarise findings of many people: The Swiss person (of the two person shareholding company) is involved in several other companies, the location in Baar is not surprisingly in the canton with the lowest taxes in Switzerland. Many other international companies locate their tax headquarters there. The Foreign Investor of this company is Polish, and is the owner of foto-tip. This was actually one of the key companies to bring the Samyang lenses to Europe, the first European Web site for Samyang was Polish. So, it looks like the IRIX brand is simply a high class product from Samyang. Not sure if Samyang themselves will come out with this product, or if this is really the brainchild of the Polish entrepreneur to make improved Samyang products. Samyang still sells their lenses to other resellers for rebranding. But Samyang has now established its own reputation, maybe now branching out to higher level (like Lexus vs Toyota)
Interesting. However, foto-tip had a massive conflict with Samyang (if they are to be believed, they were severly screw*d by the Korean company) and the whole thing ended with Samyang changing the distributor.
fatdeeman: Strange that they call it contemporary when the F/2.8 E mount lenses (while excellent) are clearly of a lower spec but badged as Art lenses.
I would guess this is to keep costs down. I might be wrong, but I think they only do full weather sealing in Sport line.
And it might actually be that some other Sigma lenses are weather resistant to large degree, but announcing your lens as weather sealed is a liability, as users tend to do more extreme things with such lenses. I think Sony got burned by exactly that :-)
Sigma CEO explained this during his presentation at CP+. He said that Art badge is reserved for uncompromising lens designs that use special materials (rare types of glass).
Additionally, at least at this moment, Art lenses do not rely on software corrections. Not that they can't benefit from them, but they are not designed with software corrections in mind.
Where the old DN lenses fit into this, I don't know. At least the 60mm uses Special Low Dispersion glass elements, so that one fits the bill. This new 30/1.4 on the other hand, does not use any special type of glass in its construction.
xpanded: Dear Sigma - congratulations with this amazing launch. Quite surprised you managed both so quickly.
Now please hire 2 software guys (m/f) - one skilled tester and one skilled bug fixer. Do not add additional features to the software - do not work to make it faster - only focus on making it 100% stable. No more strange error messages. SSP remains the biggest hindrance for bigger sales.
And yes, I do own Sigma cameras (currently 5) and I would buy this in a heartbeat if the raw converter was fixed once and for all.
Unfortunately, with SPP, you can never know. People say that v5 is the best one for Merrill files and that it's more stable than 6. Tried it, it was unusable for me. Crashed all the time, for no apparent reason. Useless. So I used 6, it only crashed like 2 or 3 times.
krikman: ... And grip made for minimise stability while shooting. Good work, Sigma!
Sigma is well knowed for making stupid decisions for otherwise perfect cameras.
It is destiny. No cure will help.
Not sure about that. Have you handled it?
Do you think that grips on consumer DSLRs are too small and made to minimize stability?
Do you also think that Sony made the grip on A7 II for minimizing stability as well? Because they're the same size.
So yeah, if you think so, than that indeed might be a problem for you. I guess you will only have a stable grip with an FF DSLR. Sucks for you.
Mssimo: Did they upgrade the battery size?
It's different than in dp cameras and previous sd, so it looks like it.
Something struck me about the EVF placement just now.
Not sure if anyone noticed, but with the right eye looking through the EVF, the optical axis is not shifted to the left in relation to "the center" of the photographer's head as much as with traditional SLR design (or even more in case of a rangefinder). It's basically between the eyes.
So something tells me this placement is a very deliberate decision, not just a result of "where do we squeeze in the EVF?" dilemma.
owenleve: Make this with a nikon mount...
Why? Sigma makes the best lenses anyway ;-)
Better yet, open up the RAW file format so that third party developers can implement full support for it in their RAW converters.
Retzius: The EVF is in the worst location conceivable.
Not only will the user mash their whole face against the screen but to top it off they will poke themselves in the eye with their thumb.
kudos folks... kudos
You seem to have missed how far away from the back of the camera it's removed.
I personally find DSLR viewfinders largely unusable because they force you to mash your face against the back of the camera. For a glass wearer like me, it's a massive PITA.
On the other hand, on my E-M10, the EVF sticks out (less than here), which makes world of a difference.
So no, this location is not going to be a problem. It will most likely be much more comfortable in use than any consumer DSLR.
halfwaythere: I'm just curious how many of the vocally enthusiastic people will actually buy this lens.
The cheaper and lighter 18-35/1.8 isn't actually that great of a seller.
Seems to me like Sigma is flooding the market with lenses that nobody ever asked for while ignoring the "usual suspects": 84/1.4, 135/2, 24-70/2.8 OS or an updated 70-200/2.8 OS.
18-35 not a great seller? The lens that was sold out for weeks on end? Sigma was not able to crank them out fast enough to meet demand. I bet a lot of companies would love to have "a poor seller" like that.
Astrotripper: Astrotracer is now built-in. Fantastic. I love how they manage to find so many interesting uses for their IBIS.
If I were in a market for an FF DSLR, this would be it. Now, if only Sigma would start making their Art lenses in K mount.
Yes, 30 and 35 are the only Art primes so far that got a Pentax version.
I'm sure Canon and Nikon are much more important markets for Sigma, so they are the priority. So I suspect it's just a matter of time the others get the same treatment, especially now. Keeping my fingers crossed. Not that I'd buy into it, I just always cheer for Ricoh/Pentax.
Astrotracer is now built-in. Fantastic. I love how they manage to find so many interesting uses for their IBIS.
So, will there be a firmware update for GF7 that adds those features GF8 boasts about?
For me, PEN-F is the most beautiful Micro 4/3 camera ever made. All the PENs up to now were at best "meh" in my eyes.
But that won't convince me to buy it. I had much greater expectations of it and got disappointed. I wanted it to be much more than the PEN line ever was, and that is obviously not aligned with Olympus' vision of it. I wanted this to be to Olympus what X-Pro 2 is to Fuji.
And it's not that I have a particular weak spot for retro cameras. I'm not a fan of Fuji designs, I think classic Leicas are ugly, and Nikon DF is just silly. On the other hand, I love the simplicity of some Panasonic designs. GM5 is probably the cutest ILC I've seen and I've already decided that within 2-3 months, it's going to end up in my pocket with a 20/1.7 prime :-)
brownie314: I thought Sony had the curved sensor locked down.
I don't think this is a patent for a curved sensor. It looks like a particular configuration of optical elements and a curved sensor. I assume the lens elements are described in some detail in the patent. This looks more like a patent for a specific camera module that would use a sensor like that.
It looks a bit like all those lens patents from camera companies, only the last element is curved, not flat.
Also, did anyone notice the dimensions? 1.8mm and 1.95mm. This thing is tiny.
elefteriadis alexandros: Art mode and filter is just to distract from the real problem, its small format without control in DOF. All pictures look flat because the lens mm its to low for 3D looking pictures, i miss the medium format quality.
It does not seem to me that you understood the contents of that article. You might want to read up on equivalence, maybe that will clear some things up for you. Although it might be hard to find a reliable info on that, since there's so many misconceptions surrounding it and so many ignorant people saying stupid things about it.
Wow, another m4/3 release and another wave of ridiculous claims from people who clearly have no idea what they are talking about.
This is pure comedy gold, really. Good for a bit of a laugh during a coffee break :-)
I'm gonna keep my eye out if anyone beats alexandros in that race to the bottom of well of ignorance (BTW, it's a bottomless pit, so possibilities for fun are endless).
PhotoKhan: The more I see images in 4:3, the more I find this the worst format of them all.
The more I shoot in 4:3, the more I find it the most natural and most versatile format of them all :-)
On a more serious note, I always found 3:2 to be particularly jarring in portrait orientation. It really is only nice for your usual horizontal stuff.