Now, samsung, please add cropped 4k and lossy raw as alternative options to nx1 as well! It's ridicolous they are present in the cheap nx500 and not in the flagship!
Also, please have a look at the many users' request in the eoshd forum.
Gorgeous picture! Would you share your technique?
GarysInSoCal: WOW... I'm confused DPR... here's a camera that's made significant improvements over it's predecessor (the D7100 with GOLD award)... yet it gets a lower review (SILVER award)... how could that be?... :/
Gary, of course you can have different needs, but I don't find myself needing any different lens than those I have, apart some very rare cases when I'd like to have a longer fast tele.
And a spare battery (paid 20€) allows me to double the shots. About 800-1000 shots are more than enough for any case I can find myself in.
Gary, the nx1 has 14bit raw (12bit only in burst shooting). And, as papi said, has tons of features more/better than d7200.
The remark about evf made it clear that you never tested one, though.
rhurani: I noticed that if you say something good about a Nikon/Canon DSLR, there will always be somebody trying to convert you to:- Sony, and/or- Samsung
Seems the the S's have Conversion Brigades deployed online 24/7
Rhurani, sometimes it is indeed a conversion attemp, other times it's not. For example, when I referred to samsung nx1 it was just to understand why a much superior (imo) body got just a 3% more here on dpr.
Of course you have to try both to understand if nx1 is such a superior body for you as well. If you or others don't care to test, you/they should not say that nx1 is not superior ;-) simple as that.
Pecolpan: This is a very nice photo. Yet, something doesn’t add up in your description. Each jump should have lasted for around half a second depending on how high she jumped. To see four feet on the ground the total exposure time must have been about two seconds or more. Am I missing something?
If I understand correctly, this is a single jump.
vesa1tahti: Mirrorless cameras aren't large enough, difficult to get touch with big hands (e.g OM-D E-M1). The D7200 has the right size and weight, I feel I've got something with my money. Lenses (eg. Sigma 18-35 Art, Nikkor 18-140, Sigma 105/2,8 Macro, etc.) weight just that much they have to. A little bit heavier: more stable to shoot handheld.
Have a look at the nx1. For me it's almost too big.
Papi61: Nowadays lots of videographers buy DSLR's and mirrorless cameras for video. Canon and Nikon are deliberately ignoring this and their camera sales are going south accordingly.
I'm a Nikon shooter and I would have loved to buy a D7200 with 4K video. Instead I bought a Samsung NX1. To my surprise, it bested my D5300 and even D750 (except for high ISO on the latter) even as a still camera. If Samsung keeps releasing bodies like this and adds a sufficient number of lenses to become competitive with Canon/Nikon, I seriously doubt I will stay in the Nikon camp in the future.
I was referring to the needs of 75% of the photographers, not to a 75% needs of a single individual.
I never used any of those gimmicky features on nx. But I can assure that the other functions are outstanding, like ultrafast fps, gorgeous af (from fw 1.3 with s lenses), 4k video and in camera frame extraction. I'm sure that if you tested it, you'd say 'wow' for its built and speed. Of course you wouldn't have the lenses you need, but if you happen to see one, give it a try. You'll be surprises, granted!
Yes, you're right on most. But my 'view' is that if - say - 75-80% of the needs are covered, then it's already a very usable system. And if the body is so good, it could make you forgive the lack of specialized lenses or more choices.
I guess they didn't go with an existing mount to reduce the flange distance and body size. They rather should have offered an 'intelligent' adapter for that mount. That would have been a killer move imo.
Ok I see what you mean now, but apart for the wide prime (there is a 12mm samyang, manual aperture and focus) and zoom at about 300mm (which should be covered soon) the other lenses seem to me quite specialized ones, appealing to not so many ppl. But I agree, having choices is the key.
Guidenet, apart for the lack of anything above 200mm, what are the serious lacks you see in nx lens lineup?
Personally, I'd want a fast prime in the range of 35mm equivalent, but I'm served for the rest.
elefteriadis alexandros: -Best APC sensor? i don't think so, Samsung NX1 is best in comparison and is almost 1/2 stop more sensitive in light!!The problem for Samsung is the missing lens, if they make 2-3 good standard lens then is the best choice.
How about: your nx1 was surely broken, since you are the only one reporting this.
I think that if ppl were brave enough to try the nx1, very few would stay with canikon (unless they need lenses above 200mm...for now).
tecnoworld: So, nx1 is 87%, d7200 is 84%.
A delta of just 3% for:- a better built/sturdier body, though weighting less- much faster fps in burst shooting- gorgeous 4k video- class leading fhd and slowmo 120fps- outstanding evf- 4mp more and bsi sensor- .....
There is a lot in that 3% ;-)
Black, I agree on most. The nx1 is a single great camera in a system with other very average bodies. The lenses that exist are good to excellent, but I recognize the lack of some fl (which in my own case would not be used much, but of course for othersnthe situation could differ).
Lassoni: When Nikon starts bringing 4k in their cameras is when things start getting really interesting.
Lassoni, that will happen when samsung puts 8k in its cameras :-D
The lack of a long tele lens is the right point, but it should NOT affect the rating of the camera body (there should be a rating for the camera system...).
Nx1 is not perfect and has room for improvements, so 100% would not be fair as well. But 90-92% definitely.
As to high iso, apart for the ultra small edge in dxo numbers, if you compare the images at the same resolution, the difference is negligible to say the very least. And if you look at the low iso pushed by several evs, then the nx1 is clearly ahead.
All the things I indicated outweight any competitor under 1500$ by a huge margin, d7200 included. And the much cheaper thing is simply not true. 200$ at most.
It's like comparing a new paradigm with an older (though excellend) one. Hence the lead in lens lineup (but the existing nx lenses are outstanding).
Afc is radically improved with fw 1.3 and is a shame dpr is not updating the review and rating of nx1 after its release.
If d7200 is at 84%, imho the nx1 should 'at least' score 90%. Possibly 92%, considering that not even the dslr in the 5000$ range have its specs...
So, nx1 is 87%, d7200 is 84%.
MidwestDad: Thanks for another in depth review. (1st comment whoohooo!) The D7200 edges out the D5500 and NX1 as the leader in APS-C image quality, and is a good bit better than the Canon and Sony options. It even matches a very recent FF body (surpassing it in DR) I am enjoying the new comparison tool. Very informative. Good job Nikon. Add on-sensor PDAF or DFD and and it will be an overall winner.
Midwest, I see you can read dxo numbers ;-) what about discussing real world results, instead?
bakhtyar kurdi: Now put this camera on a tripod, have three color filters with you, RGB, take 3 shots with each filter, then combine the 3 images to produce a super resolution color picture, so the owners have an limited option to take beautiful color pictures with their monochrome camera, am I right? what do you think?
That's what I used to do in the 80s to digitize color images on my Amiga, coming from a b&w camcorder ;-)