I want this camera to have a bigger sensor (APS-C) and interchangeable lenses. Then I think I won't need another camera for many, many years :)
I think this is the right way to go for mirrorless cameras: a compact body and an additional optional grip. Bravo Fuji!
peevee1: Some comparison to its competitors would be interesting. Does it have any real advantages compared to Panasonic G6, GX7, Olympus E-M10, Sony a6000? What are the disadvantages?Why does it cost more, even with the old big and and boring 18-55?
Seems to be very close to G6, just bigger.http://camerasize.com/compact/#455.374,497.105,ha,t
Like my comments here?
CaseyComo: That's some aggressive noise reduction in low light.
:-) look at any review around. They'll all talk about the nr issue in samsung jpg. Even if you are such a fanboy, please try to be objective from time to time. Oh yes, that would negate the fanboism, right :-)
tecnoworld: As an owner of several nx cameras and lenses, I'd never buy this camera.
Here are my reasons:1) iq very similar (identical?) to that of my one year old nx300 (lower than fuji x and sony nex in high iso and dr)2) same for af performance, (which is for sure lower than fuji x-t1 and seemingly lower than sony a6000)3) price, too high imo4) form factor and look, I prefer rangefinder shape ala nex7/pana gx7. The nx30 is big by my standards, and, again imo, ugly.5) evf is still sequential and I see rainbow effects in it. I hate this. The one in x-t1 is so much better, bigger, with better colors
I'm such a samsung hater that I bought four cameras from them and 10 lenses...
And I first got to nx well before you even started being a samsung fanboy...that is long ago :-)
So learn before talking. I talk about facts and numbers...what about you?
Look at how much interest the nx30 arises when compared to k3 or x-t1. Wonder why?
Unfortunately the Sony A6000 is not on dpreview scene, yet. From the samples I saw, its high iso images are really good.
I just looked at the DPR comparison test scene (low light). ISO 3200, RAW, with Fuji X-T1, NX300 (NX30 not there, yet), Pentax K3 and Nikon D7100. Looking at print size (same size for all).
My personal taste is:
1) Fuji X-T12) Nikon D71003) Pentax K-34) Samsung NX300
The fact is that the fanboys will always say: is this bad? Well don't use it, since it's not important! Rather then: is this bad? Then fix it, since it's important!
Of course I shoot raw+jpg. Sometimes I just don't have time to use a pc on a raw and I'd like to have a decent jpg even at higher iso, as any other comparable camera can do.
How about, sorry but dxo proves you are wrong. Look at the a6000 results and compare those to nx300. And also look at older nex7, k5-ii, nex6, d5200, d7100, k-01...all of them score higher than nx300.
Fuji is not there since it does not have bayer sensor. My posts are based on numbers...what about yours?
I bought the nx300 one year ago. I immediately noticed the nr thing, and I sent several reports to samsung about this. I just got a couple of standardized emails, nothing more. Of course, nothing was done to improve this issue and the nx30, which is basically a nx300 with the evf, did not improve this as well. Very bad, imo.
Peevee: I totally agree. Imo this is a 'just' a good camera, too expensive, that does not shine in any field.
It's ridicolous to see the usual fanboys defending samsung :-) I expressed my personal reasons, so that ppl can read them and decide if they share them or not. The fanboys won't share them and they'll buy 10 copies of this camera, good for them. I won't buy any, and so will do anybody who shares similar opinion. Is that a problem to share personal opinions? :-)
As an owner of several nx cameras and lenses, I'd never buy this camera.
I agree. Even with nr turned off, my nx300 applies heavy nr at iso 1600 to 3200, making the jpg unusable - for me - at those isos. Luckily raw files are better.
tecnoworld: Great image! Two questions.
1) what's the magnification obtained by reversing this lens?
2) did you use a flash?
Thx for your replies. About the flash, what kind of flash? Bounced one?
Great image! Two questions.
brumd: "File format: JPEG"..and that's where I stop reading. Will there ever be a small rugged camera that gives access to RAW? I'd buy it immediately. Everytime a new shockproof camera is announced I'm hoping: maybe this time..:/
I'm also awaiting for a rugged P&S with raw. I'm not interested in the Nikon, since it has changeable lenses. I'd just want a camera like this one, but with raw.
Great colors. Could you please discuss about how you processed it? Thanks.
AndreSJ: WHERE IS THE 16-50mm f/2-2.8!!!!?
No body is going to be surprised that this camera performs well and its limitations are just higher then the NX300 as it is an updated and refined version of the same sensor.
I want a test of that beautiful S-Lens!!!
It's not possible to generalize that much. There are cheap lenses and good lenses. Just, there are much more lenses for Pentax to choose from, both legacy and new ones. And if you don't want Pentax, then there is Nikon. The essence is: if I want to lug around more than 1KG of camera at my neck and another 1KG of equipment in my bag, I'd choose another system and I think many would as well.
NX is great and has a niche market when it's coupled with pancakes.