WanderingEYE: Pretty much useless as a stills camera with only 12 MP.Must be some kind of inverted snobbishness at work here, an "exclusive" camera for artists perhaps?Not even real 4k.The NX1 is a much better movie making tool, it has a touch screen too which is particularly useful for documentary shooting in unpredictable situations.
12mp are not much, I agree. I often crop my pictures, since I don't always have a zoom lens with me. Besides I use to print in 60x40 cm size.
But if you don't crop and print smaller (or never print) then 12mp are enough.
tecnoworld: When the nx500 was announced, I bought the nx1.
I won't buy an evf-less cam anymore, at least not for more than 250€.
The ridicolous buffer, lower max shutter speed, lower flash sync, no advanced gamma settings, cropped 4k and no peaking in 4k are other obvious differences with nx1 (also the probable lack of 120fps in 2k).
Yes, a rangefinder camera would be nice for both big lenses and pancakes, while the nx1 imo is a bit ridicolous with a pancake on it (of course you could save some weight, but you have the 600gr body anyway).
But again, the nx1 with the two S lenses and the other big ones has a great balance and a confortable grip. It even seems less heavy than it is. Especially with the 50-150, that on the nx300 would be ridicolous.
Me too, but I lost hope. I'm quite happy with nx1, I must say, especially since most lenses are so big that the body becomes less influent (16-50, 50-150, 85, 60). For the pancakes, I'll still use nx300 as soon as it comes back from service.
cptobvious: Is this what camera previews have become - camera companies giving out free vacations to reviewers? Olympus gives out free trips to Ireland and Bermuda, and now Samsung gives out Hawaii trips.
Certainly these cameras can be reviewed competently by just giving loaner review copies, but perks like these just smell like desperate attempts to influence reviewers.
The rumors state that a new big fw for nx1 is on its way, with big improvements to af system. I'd wait some more time to release the review. Better to test a product at its best, especially when it's not by an established photographical brand.
RichRMA: Great sensor, lousy camera. No EVF, no sale these days, might as well use a crummy iPhone.
Rich: 99.99% it does not.
Is this proto as big as the one shown at photokina? Or is it smaller? Thanks.
Nerval: I know we should not judge picture quality from a couple of samples... But, anything around ISO1600 at night reminds me of the M43 previous gen chip (12MP), it looks as if the blue channel needs too high an amplification and results in crippled skys.
So question: Is the jpeg engine doing a poor job? Or is it the sensor ? Or a bit of both ? First impression?
The pics taken at low ISO with the 16-50 look sharp, a bit of a nervous bokeh (jpeg overly sharpened?) it seems, but the contrast is pleasant. Sometimes on the background fine lines tend to "double" is it a result of sharpening or slight astigmatism?Can you post "more traditional portrait" at the long end with focus on the eyes at f/2.8? (so we have an idea at how's the transition from in focus to out of focus) It's always interesting to see it on the skin, after all at 50 it's eq. to 75. Please ;).
Anyway, thanks for producing so much content, it's great to be able to follow up with the tech in just a couple of minutes day!
Menn, you should consider both scaled at the same mp size (ie 16mp). 28mp is a lot more and noise at pixel level can be more visible.
Not at all. I knew that and I think it is logical.
I was hoping in the rumored rangefinder model WITH evf, at a price of about 20% less than nx1 and similar specs, but not weather sealing.
This model did not exist and probably never will.
I pointed out the differences, since the headline of DPR is wrong, to say the least.
Nx500 is a mini nx1? Not at all. It's a much lesser model, commisurated with its price.
When the nx500 was announced, I bought the nx1.
Great shot, I'd like to see a picture of the setup.
So it was totally dark in the room, untill the flash fired?
tecnoworld: Two basic questions to dpr:
1) which sw did you use to manipulate raw in the new tests?2) will you be doing these new tests fir all the new cameras you test? (I hope so!)
Two basic questions to dpr:
Wow! Would you share your postprocessing workflow?
amd111: When can we expect full DPR review of D7200?
Considering that samsung nx1 was announced in september and out in november and didn't get a full review yet, I wouldn't expect a review for d7200 for at least 4-6 months. Or not?
jkoch2: An excellent camera for limited motion video, especially in low light, or if one cares to use an external recorder and focus manually. Not so great for fast action, whether for video or still shots, due to sluggish AF. If shooting sports, the limit to 12 megapixels, per se, is less of a drawback than the AF factor. Internal 4k will remain difficult to implement on a FF, absent either a big heat sink or forfeiting the internal IBIS of the a7ii.
Might the a7000 offer, in an APS-c system, what the A7s does not? Sony may not be thinking in those terms, but the battle imperative to beat the NX1 may compell Sony to make it do just that.
Evf10 is only for nx100.
I'm curious to see the review of nx1 and the final score. It has internal 4k, costs way less, has more than twice mp, much faster af, better tracking, much faster burst shooting, but of course lower iq and dr at high iso. We'll see.
Nice and interesting camera. How does it compare to the Samsung NX1? I mean both in IQ and in AF speed and burst/buffering.
tecnoworld: I'd like to see a similar test performed with samsung nx1.
Yup, I read this. Interesting, but again not the same test...
It's not exacy similar...