RStyga: I wonder how this compares to the 18-135mm WR... 2mm difference is very close in FL, even when it's in the wide end and considering the 1.5X.
2 mm at the wide end is actually quite a bit. Anyway I'm hoping it will be better optically than the 18-135 - at least Pentax seem to be positioning this lense above the 18-135.
Gosman: Too expensive. When on sale, the Pentax 16-50 constant 2.8 WR DA is about $900. That's what I'm waiting for!
The 16-50 is not a perfect lens though. The SDM puts me off for a start.
Jonathan Wilson: Can't people just get past the LEDs - you can turn them off if you don't like them! I can actually see a case for them sometimes when shooting children (or when you want to distract the subject).Yes I realise this is largely a Canon / Nikon site. People were still moaning left, right and centre even when the K-3 was announced. And most of the people moaning have never even tried a Pentax camera. BTW I used to own Canon and I have tried Nikon cameras too.
Good point sandy. Although not for tripod work.
Can't people just get past the LEDs - you can turn them off if you don't like them! I can actually see a case for them sometimes when shooting children (or when you want to distract the subject).Yes I realise this is largely a Canon / Nikon site. People were still moaning left, right and centre even when the K-3 was announced. And most of the people moaning have never even tried a Pentax camera. BTW I used to own Canon and I have tried Nikon cameras too.
Apart from price (which is typically launched higher then rapidly drops - the K-50 price has already stabilised), this looks like a very capable entry level DSLR. I'm pretty sure the Nikon D3300 etc don't have switchable low pass filter, 100% OVF or built in SR for a start so I'm not sure about your comment of them being equally capable.Look forward to seeing some full reviews.
Wye Photography: Sample images http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/xg-1/ex/ at ISO 100.
I really don't have to say anything more...
Hmmm - thanks for the link.Looks a bit like my ISO3200 on my K-5. Hate to think what an ISO higher than 100 would look like.
I had actually forgotten that you were even going to do one - literally. Its been a a long time coming.
Late is better than never though so bring it on!
Technically / functionally this looks a very capable camera - and thats what matters for professionals.However aesthetically, I find these cameras pretty ugly. Maybe there is only so much you can do with a camera this size.
Ugly (as the 5D is too) as ever but a nice camera never the less.
mckracken88: This camera has noise levels ALMOST on par with the D600 and in body shake reduction, great image quality and it only gets a SILVER award mostly because of video focus?
I agree with what has been said, there needs to be a seperate VIDEO category.Personally I dont care about making movies, and i bet most here do not.
I agree - I can't understand why this doesn't have the highest value for money rating too? Weather sealed, two control wheels, excellent IQ, excellent high ISO performance, really good ergonomics, excellent performance, good metering, good auto white balance, relatively compact, excellent viewfinder (Pentaprism!), reliable autofocus and compatible with all the 35mm lenses Pentax has ever made!
I have no idea what Pentax would have to do to get a high rating here? Is it really just the video (which I have seen some good reviews for)?
NJHr: This camera is currently the bargain of the century here in the UK. The price has dropped down to £319 with the £50 cash back promotion running. I am buying as soon as I have some cash, hello Pentax you got yourself a new customer. I am sure you will make back the money on the limited pancakes I will undoubtedly buy.
This is exactly the problem I'm grapling with. I am decided on getting a K-30 but unfortunately you cant get the 18-55 WR bundled with it here. So do I get the, somewhat over priced 18-135? Some like, some don't. I suspect patchy QA involved and sample variation.
Not sure if I understand the scoring regarding video.When you compare the video scoring with:1. K-xThe k-x actually scored better even though the K-30 looks miles better???2. k-5The k-5 scored almost double that of the k-30. Again, apart from external mic and HDMI the K-30 looks significantly better than k-5.
I have read that manual video controls are better than many of the latest competition. What am I missing?
Alizarine: I guess this review will never finish.. seeing that the D600 and 6D will probably get theirs finished first.
I'm not sure why but really does seem to be some friction between DP Review and Pentax community. Banning links in posts to Pentax Forums for example. I guess someone upset them?
Yeah but 5 months to review a camera is getting pretty ridiculous. I'm not aware of any other camera review sites that have not reviewed the K-30 by now (even the slower ones). I guess its possible DP Review have had a problem with the camera but then the images they have released so far look good to me.
Doesn't look like any time soon anyway.
The K30 is getting great review on most sites (pretty much all have a review out now). Makes me wonder if they had a problem with the test camera and had to send it back or something?
Wow - finally a worthy replacement of my venerable K-x!
A significant upgrade (including a decent viewfinder) and at least a 1/2 stop better high ISO performance (which was already pretty good).
Once price settles down (as it normally does with Pentax) I'm getting one.
Wow this looks like it is what I'm looking for in my next camera. I have a K-x currently and love the AAs (so cheap to have lots of reserve or just buy some batteries if you need to). For me the addition of weather sealing, a better viewfinder and focus peaking are major pluses. Also like the idea of two control wheels. 16MP is fine - I was happy with 12MP (image quality and higher ISO capability interest me more than MP count). Full HD and better video than K-x looks good too. And the K-5 was a bit expensive for me - the K-30 is attractive.
Kind like the look of the body too.
I think the independent repairers are important to the consumer. The repairers (and us) were already being screwed on the cost of spare parts (I have seen and heard often of one faulty part writing off an otherwise good camera) but definitely this is going a step too far in my books.
Hopefully the other major manufacturers don't follow suit. I'm New Zealander with Pentax and its harder get things repaired here generally. If Pentax started doing this, I would have to look at Samsung I think.
Wow. I would use ISO3200 (maybe 6400) quite happily if I could afford one of these.
So whats wrong the ISO100 - what am I missing (looked good to me)?
I think Canons drive for higher ISO performance is a good move rather than just more MPs. Surely of interest to sports / indoor natural light photographers?
Hopefully it will be easier to access highest res images (at moment can be quite a few clicks). Ok I admit I like to pixel peep sometimes.