nunatak: this is the second year in a row the DPreview interview with Nikon comes across as weak. this despite a number of concerns expressed by readers last year, and Barney blaming the interpreters.
for the N1 series alone, Nikon could have been pressed on why so many batteries for different models? why no CLS or hotshoe? why no N1 lens roadmap?
just a thought, but perhaps next time DPreview will open the floor to let readers ask some of the questions, and hire journalists with a bit more spine to press the questions?
@Vlad: You can't read between the lines with Nikon. Everything seems to be shrouded in absolute secrecy.
AbrasiveReducer: Well, no one's going to lose their job due to spilling the beans, that's for sure. Going out on a limb, I think they haven't ruled anything in or out. Also, nothing is on or off the table. Going forward, they're considering a lot of things they may or may not do.
When you look at the interview in its entirety, one seems to be left with more questions than answers.
Polite but vague and abysmal responses to direct questions regarding future products. Those who have been wishing for a pro DX body for years are still left with possibly and maybe as an answer. It's been the same answer for years. There is not much substance to the responses to most of the questions asked. Why am I not surprised ?
At $200 less it could be appealing for budding macro shooters on a tight budget but I don't understand how this product can be relevant in a crowded market segment of 90-105mm macro lenses that are already excellent.
A 150 or 200mm manual focus macro f/3.5 to f/4 manual with a similar price tag would make much more sense.
Me thinks that if the price doesn't go down substantially Samyang will be stuck with a product that doesn't sell.
SmilerGrogan: Please do your part to keep Ken Rockwell-isms out of DPR. If you're going to use the term "coma" please also use the right term for sunstars.
It is my understanding that the correct term is "diffraction spikes."
Are people who use the word Tammy instead of Tamron suffering from Ken Rockwellism too ? Personally I find this more annoying than sunstars vs diffraction spikes.
lorenzo de medici: It's an incremental upgrade from the D7100, which I owned and then sold. Aptly named, and the improved buffer and low light focusing will be appreciated, I'm sure. DX Nikons just don't have any place in my camera bag any longer. Wildlife shooters who need 750mm equivalent focal lengths will enjoy this camera quite a bit, no doubt. Sorry but I don't care what claims they make or what DPR says, since it has just become a marketing arm of Amazon. DX sensors can't get the job done when it comes to the edge of the performance envelope. Buy a D750. If you dig down to the bottom line of DX advocates, no matter what they claim, the bottom line is they can't afford FX bodies or FX lenses. Cameras with little sensors are just a cheaper alternative to the real thing. Period. In ten years we'll all be shooting mirrorless full frame cameras, and DX cameras will still be what they are now - consumer grade equipment.
Your generalization is appalling. Explain why you think DX sensors can't get the job done. "Performance envelope". What is that supposed to mean ? Do you honestly think your FX camera has taken your photography to another level of creativity ? At the least your post is very condescending.
stevemogg: Its a clear case of hobbling to me. The D7100 is a very good camera and if made substantially better would clearly be a threat to the FX line. So instead of being innovative and making the best camera they can for their customers, Nikon appear arrogant based on past glories and drip feed changes so as not to upset the status quo of their range. If this is the case, it appears shortsighted as a strategy and patronising to the consumer. The different attributes of DX v FX are clear and consumers are more than capable of making a choice that suits them. Nikon should concentrate on making each product line the best they can be and recapture the initiative. Their lens range is similarly constrained with a confusing array of models that often offer no clear differentiators and lack lustre performance. With shipments of DSLR in 2014 running at barely 50% of what they were just two years earlier, you would think someone in NikCan would wake up and do something !
I agree. Why would they want 3 different cameras in their DX lineup with none of them being pro level is beyond me. They should concentrate on quality not quantity like they once did.
Aur: I'll never undererstand the argument some ppl use about weather sealing. Afaik, none of the DX lenses have weather sealing, only FX lenses have it. Are people really putting $2000 lenses on a crop sensor?
If you want weather sealing, you should be looking at Pentax, they have $200-$1000 lenses with weather sealing. Nikon only has weather sealing in their most expensive lenses, and even on those, Nikon seems very reluctant to tell users how much they can withstand, the info is really hard to find. Pentax has no problem telling it's users which lenses are fully weather proof and they even show it off in promotional videos.
Ppl take these cameras on safaris and then complain about dust on their pictures with Nikons, yes..because none of the DX lenses are weather sealed, so your body being weather sealed is completely irrelevant.
"Are people really putting $2000 lenses on a crop sensor?" Absolutely!
ozturert: I'll hold my comment until I see the DxO Mark point. I just have to see the god..mn number to feel comfortable. I know that it's way better than all Canons but if I can see the point with my own eyes, I'll come back and fire!DxO is just everything to me... wouldn't live without it...
@Aur: interesting as in geeky.
HeyItsJoel: No articulating screen. Just brilliant.
@Midwest: It's invaluable when you shoot video. I expected it on the 7200. Your size argument is mote. They do it on some smaller, cheaper DX models with comparable bodies. My "old" D5100 had it and the body was nearly identical.
GarysInSoCal: BINGO... D7200 has EXACTLY what I was looking for in next upgrade. (D300 owner)
No AA Filter... WINNER! I've done comparisons on 24MP sensor with and without AA Filter... much sharper images IMO... just make sure you're usin quality glass.
BIGGER buffer with 1/8000 shutter and 1/250 flash sync... WINNER! Sports and fast action boys will be happy campers now. Darker skies in outside strobe shots too.
The 51 point AF with -3EV and 'Face Detection'... WINNER! No more AF searching in lower light. I shoot models and actors headshots... 'face detection' is HUGE benefit.
Locking exposure mode dial and built-in auto focus lens motor... WINNER! No locking exposure mode dial was a D7000 screwup... too easy to change that accidently... built-in focus motor keeps all my older lenses still in the game.
Dual card slots and longer battery life... WINNER! Now you have a backup card for super important images combined with higher image storage capacity and longer shooting time.
I think it's a pretty good product but It's still not enough to replace the D300. The D300 had a much better, more practical body (more buttons for important settings without delving in the menu). At the least I would have hoped Nikon would have included a swivel LCD like the D750. Shooting video with a long lens attached without support is difficult without the swivel LCD.
jadmaister2: Small but significant upgrades keep the DX Nikons ticking over JUST.My gripe (since gripe is what we do best here it seems) is that Nikon fail to support wide angle shooters with suitable quality glass at a sensible cost.Yes Nikon have a good lens range, but recent releases do seem to favour DX shooters. Since my interest in landscape has increased I think the 7200 and it's lenses have just persuaded me to make the jump to a D750:)
If you are looking for ultra wide, you can't go wrong with any of these lenses: Sigma 10-20mm, Sigma 8-16mm and Tokina 11-16mm. I've had all 3 and ended up preferring the Tokina but by an almost insignificant margin. If you are looking for just wide, get the new Sigma 24mm.
rrccad: They aren't the first full frame camera for astrophotography.
there's a ton of full framed based astro cameras based upon the Kodak KAI11002 CCD.
now they are right that it's the first full framed DSLR's with a company based IR filter "tweak" for hApha.
since it's also just a narrow band filter for hAlpha - it's a lot more limited as not everything photographed by a astro camera is based upon hAlpha emissions.
@LSE: Consumer wins only if the cameras have no QC/design issues. Otherwise the consumer is paying for the company's lack of "road testing".
(unknown member): This deserves a Gold Award. Until then, it has my sincere smile. :) :) :)
P. S.: very good news for AsPh.
More like a raspberry award.
EricAotearoa: I do not understand all the silly chatter here about this camera. It is a specialised piece of equipment, not your everyday digital camera. It is used for astrophotography, and a specialised subset of that. If you want a camera that does something else, well, this isn't for you. Why complain just because it is not what you are after. It would be like Ford producing their Falcon sedan, and then producing a ute version, then having people complain that the ute wasn't sporty or able to seat more than two people.
Businesses are driven by need. Most people here (I include myself) don't think there is a real need for this camera especially when one thinks of the photographic equipment that Nikon could put out that would be more popular, more easily marketable. That Nikon came out with this camera could interest a few people no doubt but certainly not as much as a top end DX or a revised D750 that has no manufacturing issues. A redone Ford Falcon would have people scratching their heads wondering why. This camera announcement has the same effect. Many people are expecting new announcements from Nikon. This ain't one of them.
I applaud Pentax for announcing products that are in development even if they are months or a year away. Nikon on the other hand likes to keep everybody in the dark until the very last minute.
arrow501: In response to the coments regarding mobile phones and digital zoom. Digital zoom is not a substitute for optical zoom. There is more to zoom than just getting closer. Digital zoom does not compress a scene like optical zoom does.
Zoom with your feet. There's no substitute for that.
I don't want to sound cynical but did we really need more compact cameras ? The market seems to be literally flooded with them to the point that it's almost impossible to distinguish one from the other. I hope the more serious announcements are coming from Nikon.
CameraLabTester: The moment a photography enthusiast removes the concept of "upgrade" in his/her mind... the more enjoyable that photography enthusiast and hobbyist's picture taking would be.
Upgrade spreads the curse of inadequacy, a useful tool of marketing.
Exactly ! A marketing tool is all it really is. And it works.
Carlos Loff: When the budget is limited it makes sense to go for an FF Camera and just buy our most precious Fixed Focal Lenth lens, not spending loads of money on a whole array of new lenses
What I just can´t understand, and would like somebody to explain it to me, is how an affordable FFs, like the D750 for example - affordable yet costing quite a bit - How can they need to limit shutter and flash sync speed to make them affordable ?
My question is about spec-price, I could buy an affordable FF and be happy without 1/8000 and 250 sync, but should´t ANY "affordable" option like that cost much less than what a D750 costs ?
I repeat, is not about the need of those specs is about the relation spec-price
Shouldn´t ANY camera, nowadays, that costs more than 2.000€, have something so simple as 1/8000 and 250 sync ? Or are these specs so expensive on an FF that to be "affordable" must be ditched aside ?
That's not very hard to understand from the manufacturers point of view. They want their customers to have an unending upgrade path. They cripple the "lower" end cameras to make you want the next one which is of course to come in a year with a few functions "uncrippled".