RichRMA: Think of a Leica lens like a medical grade sensor. It costs 10x as much as a commercial grade sensor because it is about 10% better in-terms of uniformity of pixel output. But that is what is required. The Leica is required by some people who value quality above everything, including price. But Leica is not alone. Nikon and Canon put a similar effort into the optics of their long, fast lenses, and they cost what it does for such optics. A Nikon 200mm f/2.0 is $5000 because it is a superior lens. No one whines about that. It is nice that those lenses are available for people who want that quality just as it is nice that Samyang primes can be had for $500 that have excellent optical quality for the price as well.
we take it that any links showed must be an authority on image quality and real world usage.
photominion: I'm still looking for someone to lend me an old 50mm Summilux or Summicron (or Nokton, for that matter) lens to make my comparison with Nikon's and Canon's and company.
no worries, forget the summilux and summicron. let me just give u the heads up on the 50s. There are big differences between Noctilux 50 and any canikon 50 out there by just look at it's output.there u have it...
adengappasami: Interesting lens. Sony 28mm F2 makes more sense for the price but for leica users, this is a great addition for those who have a 50/75 combo to even skip the 35mm FL for good.
24 vs 28 would be a better debate in the future with respect to combination of leica lenses.
Sony 28 for me though for its darn cheap pricing.
28 f2 has been around for a long time that is what leandros mean. it makes no diff if anyone else releases a 28 f2. have u seen any 28 f1.4?
this article failed to mention that the sensor is the new 1/2.33 sensor and not the same one in the prev generation. Its the new sensor in the KW11 which is selling at over usd 900.
if the new Exmor RS 1/2.33 sensor is in this z3+. we have something here.
Or do we? I am pretty sure current Z3 sucks when compared to almost anything else, including the de facto iphone 6 at 8mp.
Papi61: This is definitely not the FZ1000 sensor. Or if it is, then the lens makes it visibly softer and less contrasty. I drew this conclusions after carefully analyzing the studio scene test shots provided by DPR right here:
Not only the FZ1000 shots have substantially more detail, but they seem to have better color balance and a punchier contrast. The Canon Powershot G7 X also shows considerably better IQ.
maybe they did but they didn't use the same processor to process the image. its strange to use another 1". The FZ1000 1" is one of the best sensor ever period.
magneto shot: panasonic cm1. the rest is history. sensor size rules, everything else is just cheap gimmicks or the 80% where it doesnt matter much.
1/1.7 sensor should be the next min requirement for all mobile phones. its at least 8 years old in sensor size usage.
Photato: Chipworks opened the S6 and they found a Sony Exmor IMX240. However the S6 Front facing camera are from Samsung.http://www.chipworks.com/en/technical-competitive-analysis/resources/blog/inside-the-samsung-galaxy-s6/
The Same Sony was also found on the Note 4.
Apparently there is a way to invoke the Camera Firmware in the S6 and it will show the Hardware (sensor).http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-and-Galaxy-S6-edge-use-the-Sony-IMX240-camera-sensor_id66700
There have to be rules to let consumers know exctly what they are buying.Apple apparently does the same and diversify suppliers, so not all iPhones are the same even if it is the same model number.
I am wonder if they switch to lower/cheaper grade components after all reviews are out.
hahahahah Papi61 ...keep up the trolling, samsung needs it hahahahahahahha"Yeah, Apple sold 74.5 million iPhone from October-December 2014. That more iPhone 6/6+ sold in one quarter than the entire Galaxy S6, S6 active, S6 mini line up will ever sold in its life."
those flares are real, coming from a vintage Vivitar 28mm f2.0
ThatCamFan: Samsung are being fools again, selling you a different product from what you were expecting, I believe the term SCAMMING fits samsung right now.
Papi61 hahahahhahaaha love ur jokes
SergioBR: And ... S6 will shoot in RAW !!! http://www.sammobile.com/2015/05/05/exclusive-android-5-1-1-to-bring-new-camera-features-to-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
so did nokia......i mean microsoft . if u want to shoot raw, buy a proper camera.
Pandimonium: Like selling Ferrari's with a Peugeot engine
papi61, your observation only suggests android might have some huge weakness in design or implementation that prevent a simple sensor to be used effectively like Apple. S6 quantity might sell around 10% of iphone 6 worldwide, but from gallery and images, iphone 6 output still remains at the top. :-)
wrong again. :-) i would be buying a 5 mp if they released one on the same sensor. These MP are just for the mass public ..such as urself who believe such the figures makes any quality sense. It doesn't. APSC offering 12 mp could trounce any 16 -20 mp 1/puny-sensor anyday, that includes Apple. Apple just didnt see the need to put it in right now and its still the best mobile shooter, not just bec it stays out of the senseless mp war, but because its just more responsive and easier to use. I have no doubt Apple might bow and use 16 mp as recommended by the sensor suppliers or it might do something innovative, at least i can count on Apple to do so. I wont be expecting anything innovative from samsung. As for the tablets and sizes, curious how is that related to my response. Do u just love to sum up everything who highlighted Apple's strength as some imaginary "fan boy" club?
papi61, there is a reason why iphone has always been the no.1 mobile phone in camera. 8 mp on a 1/2x sensor is pretty beautiful. jamming up mps on crap sensor size = gimmick and marketing. Have u watch the samsung s5 ads where the guy snap the photo of the boy playing with water? now thats scam.
1/2.6 is smaller than a standard obsolete compact 1/2.33.end of story.
3 letters. LOL
panasonic cm1. the rest is history. sensor size rules, everything else is just cheap gimmicks or the 80% where it doesnt matter much.
one of the most boring companies on cameras and this interview reflects it. the last time i paid any attention was to its 58 1.4 . most excitement are in the fuji, sony, oly and leica camp lately.
As for Nikon 1, pls . can we just let admit its a super failed product . Hire me as the CEO, i'll chop off the 1 series, replace all DX with mirrorless and keep FF for dslr.
magneto shot: FF and we'll talk. Not because apsc quality is lacking, but because there is nothing negligible about crop factor in focal lengths. Mirrorless is crowded now but FF mirrorless is pretty much just sony
give it another 2 years, u will see samsung bowing down to FF and producing one. Its market trend and and the maturity of digital technology have shown that bigger sensors will always be better quality, regardless of which advancement. If you can get apsc to beat today's FF, that FF on that same age, will beat the APSC.
There is no replacement for displacement. as they would say in the auto industry.
fmian: Seriously needs to have a faster lens.When I can buy a medium format system camera with f/2.8 lens for $250 why would I want this? Add a bit more money and I can get a polaroid back for it as well. And that would be a well known brand as well instead of an unknown.Anyway, good luck to them. At least it will get more people interested in analog photography.
but i want instax back...
i would really appreciate a bokeh as in f 2.8 printable instax. f5.6 aint gonna cut it.