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sdyue: i do a lot of shooting in the dark outdoors... and i don't care what the camera looks like aesthetically, but care how and where controls are placed ergonomically so i can do what i want in the dark rapidly with minimal finger movement... and Canon dSLRs have got the controls where it counts especially for all exposure adjustments done menuless... much like the efficiency of 'touch typing' is to the keyboard typist.
The G series is not over at all, it has always the flagship role on the prosumer end that isn't a dSLR where no other model is suitable (having best of all features in a compact). Hope the G12 successor (G13/14/Pro1MkII) 'whatever' it is will satisfy those who want a non-dSLR 24/7 type of carry everywhere back-up.
Would love to see a 15mmx11mm (double dimensions: quadrupled area) sensor fit into the G series, and have it go mini-'Prime-Lens' centric (instead of super-zoom like the SX series)... i wish for a fast 24mm equivalent prime or wide short zoom at worst.
I would be happy with a 35mm equivalent prime; 24mm and 28mm are too wide for me to be general purpose camera, and 50mm is too narrow. 35 is bob on, a la Fuji x100 but cheaper.
Still, I'd much rather they just put a APS-C sensor in it.
vshin: Seems like the x10's peers are the G12 and p7100. But at $600 retail, this camera is dangerously close to m43 and Nikon 1 territory.
I would have this over the Nikon 1 any day as it's got a standard hotshoe for a start. Not to mention a small compact lens that covers all the range most ever need.
As far as m43 the only cameras competing with this are about twice the price, as most m43 do not allow direct control with nice buttons etc. Exceptions I know of are EP3, Sony NEX7n, Panasonic GF2. All are bigger and more expensive.
I like this cameras design, and would probably recommend it to friends/family who want a nice do-everything camera but can't live with price or prime of the X100.
JPnyc: I used to own a Leica M4 back in the days when they were actually REALLY amazing. As a matter of fact, I sold my beloved car to buy one, this is how much I wanted it. And it was worth it.
Sadly, today Leica is a pathetic shadow of its former self, a brand for posers and brand whores.
No one rebadges more shamelessly, no one is more stuck in its own past and no one is fuller of themselves than Leica.
Ernst Leitz would turn around in his grave, if he could see his company today.
No more innovation, no more avant garde, just a brand trying to play catch up with the competition and copying itself over and over again at the same time.
Yes, the design is nice, but that's about the only thing they didn't have to change for the last 20 years.
Erhardt, no one will take your spot, and you know why? Because YOU take your own spot, you ARE standing still.
And no, I don't hate german products, quite the opposite - I am german.
I just feel this demise of a once great brand is a real shame.
I'm not a Leica user, but probably will be one day. A company is allowd to reinvent itself and I'm delighted some manufacturer out there cares about te photographic experience. I use 5d and 35mmf2; my 24-70L goes unused most of the tme as its too large.
I got a G9 for its size but do you know what? I hate it, not just because thee sensor size is so detrimental to image quality, but because the shutter button feels like a spring and doesn't give me feedback like my 5D shutter.
Sure the M9 is expensive so you might feel upset about that. It's not Leica's fault as manufacturing quantities and therefore economies of scale are so much lower than e.g. Canon or Nikon or Sony.
The reason I think I will have a Leica is when my kids are older and I don't need autofocus, I will only care about the feel and experience of the camera. I expect by then most other cameras will have touch-screen shutter buttons and 1001 autofocus points, along with bags of dust in the viewfinder. Ugh.
arhmatic: Why is everyone making Continuous Shooting and AF Tracking a HUGE feature?
Trying to cover up all other shortcomings?
I can't ever remember using Continuous Shooting... EVER - and I am a Nikon SLR AND P&S user for just too many years... I'd be VERY curious to see a poll on how many of us are REALLY using that, at least once a month.
@ jonikon, can you pls clarify what shooting 'spots' means? I photograph people in studio and out and have never heard of 'spots' before. I've shot with 5D, 1DMk2, 24-70 etc. I value fast autofocus, but never use continuous.
I think I would only use it for birds in flight or motorcycle racing (neither of which interest me), but in those situations, I would almost certainly use a different camera altogether.
Optimal Prime: Interestingly, unlike last month's news report on Nikon share price rise caused by rumours of a mirrorless system camera, DPR's editorial team didn't see fit to report the dismissal of Olympus CEO and the subsequent scandal involving nearly US$700million paid to an undisclosed party in the Cayman Islands as a News item when the story first broke out last Friday (Oct. 14, 2011), nearly 5 days ago. Nor the fact that Olympus shares have tumbled by close to 50% since the CEO's dismissal.
One could certainly be forgiven for thinking Amazon (DPR parent company) prefers to dispense such damaging bad news as sparingly as possible in the hope of delaying any negative impact on their web-based sales of Olympus branded products...
I think as a news site you have to be careful of defamation with issues like this. Basically you can be sued just for repeating things if they are claimed to be inaccurate and harmful. At this point, it is too big a story to worry about such attacks, although most sites / papers will simply post links to documents etc rather than make comment just in case.
Sosua: Hopefully that $700m was going to a new sensor manufacturer in the Cayman Islands...
Very funny! I bet the board wish that now!
Am I the only one eager for a useable compact with hotshoe etc. that has AA batteries? Does no-one use Sanyo Eneloops and wish they had that reliability in their compact as well?
I picked up my G9 this weekend with mini 270ex eqivalent Sunpak flash. I hadn't used it since last recharge, but it only managed a few shots. With Sanyo Eneloop or equivalent technology, that would not have happened.
My ideal camera is one that lasts, and while I wnat the Fuxi x100, I'm loathe to get another one with funky batteries.
Awesome!
Looks good. Prefer the fixed 35mm x100 personally, but holding off due to autofocus and price, plus would love a Canon equivalent with ettl hotshoe as have several flashes.
Agree with lichtlope re: dng raw formats.
qwill: I bought a Nikon E8800 prosumer camera back in 2004/2005,built like a tank with interchangeable lenses just for this particular camera only.Wide angle,320 mm telephoto + fisheye as well as screw on filters etc.I still have this camera but have been considering a new camera.My question is ,if i bought the Nikon V1 or for example the Sony Nex 7 ,would i be upgrading? I'm only an occasional/holiday photographer but respect the bloggers on this site.
Yes a new camera would be an upgrade, although the Nikon 8800 and other 2/3 sensor size 'bridge' cameras were pretty cool.
Depending on how you use it esp. for bright holidays, you may not notice a huge difference in quality / usability, although the Sony NEX / Olympus / Panasonic are better quality/option than these Nikons due to sensor being larger and more options available.
You will prob. notice a difference in speed of use. If you use the EVF viewfinder a lot, look at the Panasonic G3, otherwise The Sonys seem popular for basic use/budget.
I will never buy one of these unless it has a built-in flash and iTTL hotshoe and pancake lens package. If such a camera had launched right away, i.e. before Canon, I might have been tempted to jump ship to Nikon DSLRs as well, assuming Nikon flashes are as good as everyone says.
As it is, I'm not overly impressed and hope the Olympus EP3 comes down in price in the UK to USA prices at least.
Goodmeme: Well on reflection I suppose 10 MP with 3x crop factor might be okay. But lack of hotshoe is extremely disappointing.
@ chadley chad re: 'numpty'. For your information I own Canon 5D, 24-70L, Canon G9 and three Canon ETTL flashes so your comment buy a bloody DSLR suggests you are not in touch with the 'strobist' trend.
The 5D is too big for holiday but I typically take G9 and one or two flashes. If you don't use a flash then allow me to suggest you learn how. A Canon G9 with clever, bounced / umbrella lighting might for instance walk all over your 'bloody DSLR' image quality. Just sayin. The lack of hotshoe and manual controls are the biggest problems in my opinion. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Well on reflection I suppose 10 MP with 3x crop factor might be okay. But lack of hotshoe is extremely disappointing.
I can't imagine enthusiasts recommending their friends to buy this. Surely Nikon realises they have to impress enthusiasts and pro photographers even if cameras aren't meant for them specifically.
Small sensor. OMG. I hope Canon doesn't go down this stupid route. I really want to replace my G9 with a Fuji X100 / Olympus EP3 equivalent that has a Canon ETTL hotshoe.