viking79: Nice lens, but $1500 US for an f/4 lens? Might as well shoot APS-C and use an f/2.8 lens for those prices (equivalent but the body is about $1000 cheaper).
The camera sensor will be better ff, not to mention the enormous viewfinder that improves the experience. Also it should last better than a non-L.
Donnie G: The only gripe I've heard so far is about price, but I think this lens will be well worth it's $1500 price tag if you consider all of the gear you won't have to buy or lug with you. Wide angle to portrait length to true macro plus top draw IS are all present in this one weather sealed, durable, light weight and compact optic. For photographers who only want to carry one body/lens combo (and there are a lot of us), full frame or APS-C, this is it. Even at $1500, this lens could easily become one of the most popular standard zooms that Canon has ever made.
@ m jesper. Are you kidding? :) What happened to flash for indoor shots. Most shots at lower than f4 are too difficult to pull off anyway without a low keeper rate.
Plus with 20-40MP, who needs a long tele in the future. Donnie G is right. This will be THE lens to own for everyone who wants light weight but can't cope with a single prime. 24-70 covers normal eyesight v well imo. With IS, high MP and great ISO, who cares about long range or high speed? They'd just better not screw up the bokeh. Nicer bokeh quality was why I and many others avoided the 24-105 in favour of 24-70.
Azfar: What was wrong with 24-105 ?
It's too big. Just like the 24-70 f2.8 which I own. The trend is now towards small cameras i.e. like micro four thirds. Canon need to protect themselves as much as possible, hence this f4 zoom and a standard prime with IS.
These days high ISO quality is amazing, apart from faster af, amateurs - some pros - don't want / need an f2.8 zoom lens, I'd personally prefer one small zoom, and a small fast prime. Or just this lightweight lens. This is a dream lens. I LOVE it. If I used zooms much anymore, I ought to sell my f2.8, but I'm not sure I can be bothered. I certainly wouldn't buy the 2.8 again with this thing available. This will be brilliant.
edit: assuming it sells used in a few years for what I can get for my f2.8, then I may swap. My big lens just doesn't get used anymore which is a shame as it kicks my other lens' (35mm f2) butt image quality wise.
Michael Ma: I'm reminded every day by this rover just how fortunate we are to live on a planet like Earth. Blue skies and oceans, green landscapes, and every hue, saturation, and luminosity available to us from nature. Imagine if we lived on Mars and we put on probe on Earth. Every cell of my being would have an endless yearning to be at such a beautiful world one day, even if it was just for a second. But we are already here. Wow, what a incredible gift!
this is a photography forum and website. While I agree that humans find the earth pleasing to look at sometimes - especially shades of blue and green indicating fertile land - shall we try to leave religion out of it please. You think one thing, you 'know' you're right, thank cognitive dissonance for that. But saying it here is essentially spam.
photosen: It's from Microsoft, it will crash all the time and they'll abandon it at the drop of a hat. Why suffer the ignominy?
I guess Richard that unlike me you didn't buy Vista and some media center extenders only to have it and them abandoned in some respects soon after launch, for example the media centre had some simple bugs that weren't fixed except in windows 7. I never had a crashing problem with Vista but all the signals from Microsoft on mediactr bug reprt boards seemed to be "just buy windows 7".
I did. But not before I tried freeware Media Portal which allows for server client relationships and web access of all your media, as well as nice fanart and experience. So I guess I should be thanking Microsoft!
But this is getting silly. The world wants Windows to run Windows programs for example I can' run Media Portal on Linux only Windows. We don't want to pay through the teeth just for compatibility. It's not fair. XP or Windows 7 should now have to be licensed to other vendors so they can build their frontends on top of them, and Microsoft isn't making money just because it has a dominant position.
So the headline here should be Nat Geo photographers cause penguin deaths for fun and proffit?
Unhappy feet that's hilarious. At least I think you are joking. :)
Reviewer and audience. Do not fall for the nonsense in the market about 3g/4g connectivity. So long as you have wifi on your tablet most smartphones with 3g/4g have the ability to easily become a wifi hotspot, meaning your tablet can use the data connection of your phone.
With an Android phone this comes as standard for free and takes 20 secs to set up each time. Don't know about Apple but I presume its possible.
I also have to agree about Windows 8 for lightroom compatibility. With 64GB SD cards becoming popular, we really need options for multiple SD slots, not to mention a CF slot or attachable small adapter.
A stylus is obviously going to be useful for lists etc.
ri dont normally comment on other's photos, this is really lovely lighting, hven't seen this before. thanks for the explanation was having trouble figuring out what you had done. on top of that the model, pose and exposure are all lovely.
Francis Sawyer: I wish Canon would make 35mm and 50mm pancake lenses on par with the 40mm. The 6D with a pancake wouldn't be too big.
The 40mm is half-assed: It's not a normal lens OR a wide-angle lens on either APS or full-frame.
get a 35mm f2 then; its prettty small. But I'd go for a pancake instead these days. Just take one step backwards.
Homam: can't believe there is so much negativity about this Canon already. It seems you have all forgotten how the old 5d mii revolutionized the market with an only 9-point AF system and until the introduction of nikon d800 according to dpreview it stood as the highest image quality dslr in the market.
What many amateurs seem to ignore is that huge differences exist between a camera's specs on paper and how it handles in real life. When d800 and 5dmiii were out in the market, i shot both for around a month and i had many more keepers from my 5dmiii in terms of color rendition, contrast, and focus accuracy. I found miii much more fun to shoot with and much more photographer friendly. d800's menu is way to complicated to handle.
I suppose a multi-billion dollar company like Canon knows what it's doing. Let's wait till 6d is in the market then we can actually compare the cameras better.
agreed. Its a decent looking camera I just can't believe Canon still has no full frame option with a built in flash. This smaller lighter variant would have been fine then. Otherwise I don't get why anyone would chose this over a used 5D2 or a Nikon d600. It may be smaller and lighter but as soon as you bring a flash along, it becomes unwieldy and unsightly. My strobes stay at home most of the time for that reason.
Bill Bentley: This kit along with one of those tent pole, compact style, tripods in a small bag under the front seat or in the trunk would make for a decent travel solution. I'd buy this if I could afford the carrying costs of owning an iPhone5. Alas, I'll have to make due with my Samsung WB150F for now as a compact travel camera.
afaik you can still buy phones used on ebay for a few hundred. Pick up a no attachment contract or payg sim and you're there for much less.
Higuel: UAU! a camera that is LESS in almost every important thing then ALL the others!And yes, ALL photographers were dying for wi-fi instead of a flash (that controls others!) or some 11 CROSS AF points!!!Maybe in next model they will put an MP3 player and loose ISO manual control!!! X(
Canon user since my first lens in98. But they sure are making an effort to se me changing for nikon! ):(
Me too, I like the wifi actually, but the lck of a flash means I have no reason to change from my 5D. I'd like video but I don't need it. I NEED a popup flash every now and then, don't want to carry speedlites.
ealvarez: Not a "strobist" friendly camera with 1/200th flash sync speed. I thought this is THE one for me. Why are you doing this to me, Nikon???
I am grateful to David Hobby of strobist site. The website he created taught me flash photography. I'm not a professional but we love taking studio type photos at home with small flashes, and a couple of umbrellas. I have a 5D with IIRC a 1/200th sec flash sync. It's fine for portraits.
I can't imagine many users seriously need a higher sync speed or needing to stop action with flash shots. Yes, if they're enthusiasts. No, if they're just taking photos of family / friends. I would personally love the 24MP for big prints, over the 12MP D700. Of course if it had 1/500th sync then great, but it doesn't. Just work around your gear, rather than thinking you need everything that a flash professional needs would be my 2 cents.
jennajenna: a canon 5d2 and 24-105L lens for Less price then this.
are you all nuts?
Hmmm. I personally still prefer my 5dc with 35mm f2 to rangefinder style if it has poor battery and an add on viewfinder anyway. Unless I hear otherwise, it has superior battery life to this size camera class.
But the 24-105L is not a substitute because it is simply too large to be comfortable all the time for most people. Even the 5D with a pancake lens is a bit of a brute, and I'd definitely consider swapping it for a Fuji x100 style camera as soon as the battery life and focus are comparable.
it's beautiful. If only they could have removed the lettering on the front, and limited the camera to a single logo.
Having said that, it's a big step in the right direction towards having mid-price cameras that look and feel like they're related to art creation and enjoyment as opposed to advertising.
Goodmeme: relatively inefficient my ass. why don't dpreview review sanyo eneloops?! :)
i agree but its really not an excuse. I imagine most dpreview readers (or people generally) are willing to buy some rechargeable aa's to use in such a camera.
At the moment I think people just don't know about the advantages of low self-discharge eneloops and their ilk because they are so new.
I would love sites like dpreview to get the word out and then mfrs will start making devices that will have battery support for a lifetime (ie through aa).
relatively inefficient my ass. why don't dpreview review sanyo eneloops?! :)
transfer to android wifi or bluetooth is my must have feature, in my next slr / serious camera.
I'm sure its great in this compact too, and I'd recommend this camera if only for this feature. But what I really want is my 5D to be able to do this, or more specifically for me to be able to download at top speeds into my computer just be turning on the camera somewhere else in the house. All the wifi settings must be stored.
And another thing Canon if you're reading this. I don't want just 802.11g or even n. Make it 802.11g, n and ac compatible. i.e. future proof it to 1Gb speeds. Then standardise to the entire product line, and you have a feature people will use and love, much better than the direct print button :)
SergeyMS: I see on Nicon and Cannon mirrorless cameras, and understand, that these companies are not competitive in this segment of market
oops I mean year approx 1800 not 100!
Actually I think its you who has something to learn (!) about the fallibility of companies, about the huge potential for large company employees to ignore new trends and continue doing what they are doing regardless, and about the number of currently large companies who - if history of economics and business teaches us anything - will screw up within the next hundred years.
Canon and Nikon's future success is likely but not guaranteed and they are not immune to shortsightedness and a focus too much on reducing costs versus increasing revenue from growing markets.
I wanted to include a reference to a piece of recent research about the 100 top companies from around the year 100. Only a dozen or so remain. I'm sorry I couldn't find the reference after a few minutes, I don't ask you to take my word for it, so look instead at research on , for example, corporate governance.