salla30: wasted opportunity, but still a "C" for trying
older gen tech? why?low screen res on a device intended for video and photographic use? why? especially when one of the key USP's of the S4 is it's HD screen, why put a quarter screen res on the camera version?Dual core processor instead of quad core? why? For HD video playback and snappy photo handling, why not quad core?
Dear oh dear. Its a mediocre camera with an old-gen phone. And they'll still probably want 800 usd for it or something silly.
Now, come on!! You can definitely do better, Samsung! Or is it a political move from inside the company to let this hybrid idea fail?
PS... I would really be a taker on this idea if it gave me a good P&S plus a state of the art phone to AT LEAST improve on my existing galaxy note 1. I love the idea and think its THE way forward, hence frustration
I don't know, maybe they needed to recoup some of the cost of the bigger camera sensor and lens and still hit a low enough price point?
I agree with you though really. It would have been nice to see all the specs from the s4. But the big failing here is the size of the lens. It's too big for what it's giving us. At that size, I would expect faster glass, a much smaller zoom or just a good prime, and a bigger camera sensor. Truth be told, these days I would only be willing to add an extra 3 or 4 millimeters depth to my Galaxy note phone, and that would have to be a fixed lens so I don't worry about breaking a zoom in my pocket, and I would also want a battery pack / case option that made the whole thing the same depth so it would slide into pocket easier than with the lens protruding.
I think I'd prefer this as a black and white render, but the context creates a strong piece of art - the subject's joy and excitement regarding wedding, and perhaps concern or bravery regarding overseas posting, father's pride regarding son being brave and also to be married, country's pride in brave soldiers, country and family -especially mother who is absent - wishing to also protect young boys / men, a long life left to live and wondering how it will be lived, wives missing husbands, etc etc : complex set of opposing emotions all present at the same time...
keepreal: This is another example of technology getting out of hand. As I went digital, I had to familiarise myself with all sorts of concepts only to subsequently dispose of most of them, like having twenty two subject modes, none of which are needed for serious photography where the camera operator still knows what he is doing and remains in control.
I am not saying that this Sigma device is unnecessary, just that it ought to be in the labs of manufacturers. If one is using high quality equipment where fine tuning to this degree makes sense, for the exorbitant amounts one has to pay, let them get it right before the user gets to buy anything or, if we are talking about an option like adjusting the autofocus seek range, let them build that into the camera to adjust, where it should be in the first place, so that one is not stuck with one setting per shooting session.
Everything now is becoming so unnecessarily complicated that soon you will need training just to suck eggs.
Actually, if you've bought Sigma lenses before only to find the focus isn't spot on with your camera, or - a few years later- your new camera does not work with the Sigma lenses for some reason known only to Canon or Nikon etc - then this device is very interesting.
It means you might buy Sigma lenses in relative confidence, knowing you can update the firmware or focus as required without shipping to Sigma.
And Sigma makes some excellent lenses.
Tape5: So any subject matter in the world ( preferably a controversial one ) that is in any imaginable way related to a photo or some photos or someone's photos, is fit to be reviewed as a photographic issue?
I suggest an article featuring fast cars and speed cameras.
Fair point. For myself, I may not have seen this if it hadn't been on dpreview, and I think this composite piece is interesting as it evokes a subtle criticism of recent socio-technical developments - and perhaps with the text removed - would it maybe have met with success in the photography or art worlds too?
Lanski: It's great to see Canon innovating again. However, before this release the main gripe being aired on these forums (regarding Canon) was the outdated noise/DR performance of the sensor. It was a fair point - although Canon excel in other areas, the 7D sensor just doesn't compete with the Exmor related offerings of the competition on DR & noise. This sensor just has to be better. I really hope this new focussing system isn't the sole improvement on this sensor. Innovative as it may be, IQ always comes first.
@howardroark do you work for Canon or do you just love them lots? It's just I can't help thinking you don't get it. Many people here have invested thousands in Canon equipment and don't want the transactional loss from swapping it, nevermind the time (and sometimes stress) it would take to deliberate, research, buy and get used to a new system.What is upsetting is seeing how far Canon went in just a few years with the advent of DSLRs, how far the prices fell, and knowing how amazing a 1 series camera is, even after a couple of decades. But Canon have disappointed many older customers for a while now.
For example Nikon at least offers a serious small full frame camera with a built-in flash - what I and many others wanted for ages.
Canon were last to the table with their APS-C interchangeable. Its obvious to everyone else when a brand (and its customers) are being milked, and partly ignored. Short term its a profitable strategy for a cash cow division, but we don't have to like it.
CFynn: With one of these the NSA, PRISM and GCHQ will be able to monitor the photographs you take along witl your email, internet browsing, forum posts, mobile and Skype calls which they are already tracking.
Don't worry, unless you're taking photographs they think you shouldn't be taking, this will make you more secure.
They may be able to remotly turn on the camara from time to time just to see what you are doing and make sure you are safe.
Who cares? Its certainly not the camera's fault. If security organisations want to see your data so much, they can just arrest you and / or confiscate it. I don't see why anyone would be bothered with them seeing photos of your cat.
Having said that I think Android is pretty solid, and doubt it would be hackable out of the box.
HowaboutRAW: So I tried out the Samsung GC110 (the other Samsung camera running Android 4), it's really stupid. And has every problem one would expect.
Seems to shoot decent jpegs though.
I wouldn't expect any problems. Care to clarify?
Vinc T: Just don't understand most of you guys. Why argue with the creator? If the creator said it was meant to be soft, it's soft.
because nobody gets to decide how what words people use to think and speak. Language is changing all the time. From old english to middle to modern to ten years after modern, and different by location also. Same with non English languages. Its like commanding the tides. Some standardisation is helpful but this example is just silly!
snegron2: It's a shame Adobe is resorting to this. I have been using Photoshop in one version or another for over 10 years. They have lost me as a client thanks to their new marketing strategy. I will be searching for an alternate imaging program this week. Bye Adobe.
Make sure you pick an open source option. If it's commercially successful, then Adobe will just buy it, I'm thinking of you Rawshooter Pro.
knize10: And why would one want to repair a landfill tossable piece of electronic?. Just get a new Made In China one.
Are you joking? This will retail at ~500 euros. Just being able to replace the battery easily means it might last 5 or more years versus just 2; typically rechargeables lose their charge after repeated use; they're not eneloops :).
Incidentally I had to have my Samsung screen replaced due to a defect - they automatically have a 2 year warranty - so I just took it to a Samsung registered service centre and got it done for free. They bill Samsung. They wouldn't have been able to do that if it had been hard to repair. They'd have had to send it to Samsung lab, like they have to do for motherboard replacement, meaning 2 weeks without the phone.
pen araneae: Congratulations for this winner. It is very clever manipulation. Very good thinking and execution. IMHO to make it even more convincing perhaps the zebra's left side could be brightened and the shadow to the immediate left of the left rock could be stamped out, shadows of the hind legs should also be added on the right.
I agree hindleg shadow would hace 'enclosed' the zebra in a dark line 'cage', confusing the presentation; what you have done creates instead a nice spiral running from the bottom of the picture to the top.
Did you think about cropping the left area slightly to make the zebra central?
Interesting review. As you can tell from previous posts I will - unless they change unexpectedly to be a much more open system - never buy Apple, yet the iphone appears to have much nicer noise characteristics than even the large sensor HTC.
I'm currently happy with my Samsung Note, and don't want to change. But I hope HTC continues to put pressure on competitors with larger sensors. Still they need to sort out the noise characteristics in my opinion. The only night shot I liked was Apple's though it pains me to admit it! :)
Edited to add: Scratch that, just looked at the actual photos and Apple's is way underexposed as you point out. The HTC is very good. It looks like my first digital camera Olympus C8080 would have at ISO 400!
joe6pack: Am I missing something? My ICS phone's stock camera app still cannot upload to the cloud.
Yes you are indeed missing something!!! You need to just download an app and make it sync / back them up . e.g. dropbox.
As for storing them directly to the cloud from the stock camera app, I don't know.
Google's own equivalent of Dropbox is called Google Drive.
Edited to add: If you set up shared network folders e.g. on a windows pc, then you can use an app called Sweet Home to backup photos and videos when you plug your phone in and when it is connected to the home wifi. ES file explorer will let you copy paste swap and drop files between pc and phone using wifi or ftp as well. I've been using sweet home and es file explorer for months and haven't had to wire the phone to a computer at all.
Nevermind shutter speed indication ffs. How about Shutter speed priority mode, and optional EV indications?
There are times shooting toddlers and such that one needs to guarantee a fast shutter speed, e.g. 1/200th
With my original Galaxy Note, even with the sport mode enabled, it often fails to deliver more than 1/30th due to some auto iso nonsense thinking the IS can handle it.
I just want semi-manual control. I don't need Aperture priority unless they increase the size of the sensor dramatically (Which wouldn't hurt), but shutter priority is essential.
Dpreview seemed to help drive development in dslrs by mentioning the major negatives in every camera review, and generally expecting more.
Incidentally good review, and I didn't know that about the volume button. An app called CameraPro does the same thing.
Most companies seem to think that what features counted as premium or nice to have last year can still be premium this year. In a competitive market, most such features if cheap to implement ought to be considered essential by consumers a few seasons after they are developed.
An example of this is wifi connectivity. Within a couple of years, most camera market segments will consider this a necessity and not a 'nice-to-have', forcing the manufacturers to include the feature in order to compete in that marketplace.
Most consumers are daft when it comes to camera specs so the market has fed us non-usm lenses for example for decades when they should have been standard even on budget models years ago.
But stuff like wifi and connectivity, I think more people understand, or I hope so. I think Canon is looking like its asleep.