knize10: What will be the life expectancy of this new Made In China gadget., 3 months, 6 months.....What another waste.
Enough with the racism and prejudice already. My Galaxy Note N7000 is about 18 months old and as new, my original Galaxy S now works as a upnp music streamer so I can push music to my hifi over wireless with Bubble UPNP; you know, like Apple Airplay but much cheaper. The Galaxy S is also great condition. And unlike many other options, with Android you can usually flash a new firmware to keep your device up to date after the manufacturer eventually disowns it.
sammy_j: make the image sensor larger. thats the obvious step here. I don't care about megapixels.
But I'm sure samsung knows the general public does.
Yawn. Go buy a camera that stays in your pocket 24/7 and can be used for reading, browsing, music, upnp, movies, tv, old console games roms, children's games and instruments, email, text and phone.
It's feasible for Samsung to make a variant with double depth and battery life and in doing so, also have more room for a bigger lens.
I cannot fit a 5D or G series in my pocket; and in 2013, why would I?
tazmac: Big brother? :)
it will watch you when you get up and insist you do a few press-ups before letting you use it...1984 style.
HopeSpringsEternal: Stupid LCD monitor manufacturers like Panasonic will put 1080P on 5 inch cellphones,1200P on a 10" tablet and 4K on a 20" "tablet" but refuse to produce and sell affordable 4K monitors for use by normal people.
I find this quite amusing. People are buying 'retina' tablets but there's still no affordable 24 or 27" monitor with anything like the pixel density offered by smartphones and tablets.
If I were Microsoft I would be pushing demand for / commissioning and / or investing in the development of higher resolution 'Everyman' monitors so that Windows desktops recover their viewing size advantage over 'retina' tablets.
rpensotti: I agree with mpgxsvcd, Masaya Maeda should be fired now!The statement about the doubtful future of the APS-C is irresponsible.With the improvements in sensor technology, this format is still the best compromise for quality, bokeh and low light.What about the hundred of thousands EF-S lenses out there?The EOS-7D should have been ready before Xmas.His comments about the Sony RX-100 are ridiculousAn RX-100 lookalike with a better hand grip and a little longer, wide zoom made by Canon will conquer a large share of the serious enthusiast market as the ideal take anywhere, or second camera.Let's keep in mind that with a good in-camera panorama feature, a really short wide angle is not a must anymore.Shame on you Canon, you are letting your constituency down!
Oh dear. I'm guessing you have some ef-s lenses :) There's nothing quite like schadenfreude when it has to do with non- life and death matters...so cruel though this may be...
...hahahahahah! You should have bought full frame lenses like me. :)
Come on dpreview. Every phone review should include more negatives about the sensor size and the usual presets favouring slower shutter speeds which mess up lots of photos.
Not to mention the lack of manual modes?
Shame theres no support for 5d classic. Also its a shame about the size!
JordanAT: First off...the small menus are a feature, not a bug. If you're going to be using a pixel-accurate stylus, a 24x24 pixel (which is photoshop) is more than enough. I want every tool available, and I want it to take up as little screen space as possible so I don't have to constantly pan and zoom. Now, for touch interaction...that will need bigger icons. I can see how a touch optimized icon set which allows you to manipulate the tools with one hand and the photo (via a pen) with the other could be pretty sweet.
It's gonna need a bigger SSD, no doubt, but this is a rare case where I think 2 hours on battery is okay, as you're probably going to be near some sort of power source if you're doing more work than that. You'll get a big battery and an external drive to go with this if you're going to be doing large volume on the road and don't have a local wifi network or portable power to use.
I do architecture, too, so I can't wait to mark up drawings on this thing.
2 hr battery and it might as well be a desktop pc as far as I'm concerned. But with a light and long power supply, I can see this might work as a desktop replacement while also being great to show photos/plans to clients.
Aren't there any lower power cpus that might be suitable?
Viramati: If only it had a FF sensor
Given the expected sensor quality and the fact the fixed lens is so bright, I'd rather keep the size and weight down to keep the 35mm equiv field of view.
If the sensor were larger the lens would need to be bigger or less bright. The latter would negate most of the benefit from the larger sensor, and the former would increase the size and weight to the point where you'd probably be better served with a 5d and 35mm f2.
offertonhatter: I want one!There said it. I have waited for Pentax to bring out a prosumer compact for years. Now they have and it is gorgeous! Who cares about lack of hotshoe. I want one!
I care! :) But most won't :(
mpetersson: Samsung does almost everything right (excluding offering an EVF), but still their cameras don't do it for me. Being a NEX-user I would love to have their lens line-up for the NEX-system. They have covered most bases with fast primes, pancakes, zoom-lenses etc. And now also the phase detect-pixels on the sensor. Honestly this looks like a great camera, but I wouldn't switch my NEX-7 for this.
My dream would be if Samsung stopped making their own mount and just went ahead and joined the E-mount instead, but that would never happen. In the end I think the whole mirrorless manufacturers need to build consortiums like m4/3 has done. Pooling knowledge about lens-design and electronics could mean a lot.
I bought lightroom already. Why would I chose to buy it again with a camera? I'd rather take a discount on the camera. Still its easy to recommend to those who don't own lr.
mikespcr: Perhaps antipathy is to be expected - Samsung is not a traditional camera company... nor did it buy one (like Sony). It's not easy to separate marketing from product (Samsung is not the only one), but I would not write them off, this one looks promising.
I spent several weeks with a Samsung NX20 last summer with stock zoom lens and pancake wide, and was astonished at the IQ of both stills and videos right out the box, in either daylight or low light. I took many 100s of shots; very few bad ones could be blamed on the camera. For reference, I've been a dedicated Nikon SLR user for years -- latest being the D7000, with several previous models before, and 35mm SLRs going back many decades. The Samsung's innate IQ is high, the EVR quite good (tho too cool color cast and not as good as the Sony NEX-7), the LCD stunning, and focus/shutter response was very quick. It was let down by a menu/control system not well designed for more experienced shooters, and kludgy (not smooth) lenses.
@ the jakal what nonsense and rudeness. The guy states sony are better in major aspects of camera user experience and you think he's a samsung plant?! Poppycock. Look up cognitive dissonnance. Really is your opinon of Samsung so low (or of your preferred brand so high) that you don't believe when someone thinks product a or b is okay?!
JEROME NOLAS: So who will buy Nikon 1 now???
Its not that simple; distribution chains cannot easily be won over by new or smaller players than Nikon and Canon who have a long reputation of making sales for retailers.
AngryCorgi: Same sensor, same failure awaiting. Samsung doesn't get it. Stop playing with stupid gimmicks, like ridiculous LCD screens and put a decent sensor in your camera for once. And fix he ergonomics while you're at it, the nx200 is terrible and this looks to be equally uncomfortable.
Really who needs a best in market sensor to take photos these days?!!!
I expect it will be capable of taking better than or equal photos to any large but not 35mm sensor. I don't know is it better than my 5D classic with L lens? Probably not, but what member of my family would notice the difference in prints? Probably just me!
Digital Suicide: Any good from company that makes everything? I mean EVERYTHING: from cr@ppy smartphones to power plants..
actually that is sometimes stated as a reason why the products are reliable especially in ssds (e.g. the 830 and 840 series); because Samsung controls the entire production line of every component, they can put the good stuff in the top end and you (and they) know its probably going to last.
andycs1: Samsung is global leader in many things: smartphones, TV's, hard-disks, flash-memories, sensors and ... and ... (like Sony and many others)
Unfortunately the UI sometimes falls short (my first Samsung phone S1 vibrated loudly in the middle of the night when fully charged without simple solution for many months!), but they seem to be learning and listening in some departments. For example, the smartphone range has progressively got better and better S1 to S2 and Note to S3 and Note 2; people complained about the lack of Wolfson audio DAC in S2 and Note (claiming worse audio quality), it's back in the new S3 and Note 2. Samsung is listening to customers for top end products. It's been a bit slow with the mirrorless market, but the products seem solid.
I wonder how many people appreciate how big and important Samsung is; these guys make parts for lots of other products besides what is badged Samsung. They are leading the field in many technologies, which means they will lead the markets eventually.
E.g. with TVs they along with LG are the only ones with OLED tech about to arrive - and LG staff have been prosecuted for stealing Samsung OLED research!. As far as I know most of the tv panels sony uses are originally samsung.
Also they will lead in SSDs I think. Intel is the only other reliably mfr in my opinoin and Intel are more expensive.
They release so many products per year. They are typically the ones seeming to have the new ideas these days, simply because they are so good at launching test products with new features, some make it to the next model, others die due to low sales. Its a dynamic business model, where they seem to try it out on the market rather than evaluate and predict. This also gets a lot of press attention!
bikinchris: They could hang a battery pack where the motor drive went. They could even include a motor drive inside. But that would raise the price a lot. If they made it modular, they could include a back for the different models, a sensor would clip into the back and the whole thing would plug into the electronics and battery hung off the tripod mount.I might want to start looking for another F3 or Fm2 body.
Good point, how about solar power topping up a new-fangled small battery, eneloop style? Or wireless charging device on the strap?
I think one of the biggest problems today is portable power. Our batteries simply aren't good enough yet for lots of stuff that could otherwise be feasible.
I hope this becomes a reality.
But it will probably not come from Nikon or Canon I expect we'll wait until patents wear off. This is daft because I'm sure it would mainly be an additional toy for enthusiasts, not an alternative to real digital camera.
I hope someone will bring out a basic sensor in the same size as a roll of film, so it is universal. I would presume, rather than the fun ideas Marcuz posits, that such a device might work if you just adjust the iso on it itself and just tell the camera what speed ASA film (or rather, ISO) is in it.
In all honesty, unless it only cost a few hundred, yet was at least APS-C and preferably full 35mm, I doubt it would sell. But for novelty value, it would be priceless. Great for those who don't like chimping, or who want something they can repair/upgrade more easily.
Some nice photos and thought provoking comments. For anyone with a normal android phone who wants a shutter button, I recommend Camera Pro app which lets you use the volume buttons to lock focus and capture. I love it, and the developer seems to be listening to comments and making customisable options.