Please be prepared for the wave of insecure m4/3 evangelists calling for your head if you don't portray their revered format as the future and the dslr with ovf a dead tech.
spiderhunter: It appears that Canon and Nikon are so complacent with their toaster-sized DSLRs that they are blind to what is going around them. They can reduce the size of things but they just don't do it. The song "the times they are a-changing" comes to mind. Sure, they still have their lion's share of the pro market but I feel Sony has rocked the boat. The Sony FF mirrorless are still not there yet when it comes to AF tracking abilities ( but great for non-action work) and battery life but given time and more RD, they will get there. I hope the size of truly capable pro models will get lighter, not heavier.
Hand phones got lighter and smaller. The early models were gigantic by comparison. Compactness and portability is what manufacturers should aim for. Yes, there is a limit as to how small FF lenses can go but striving to reduce sizes and making things lighter are surely the way to go.
Go Sony, go! Show them the way!
I don't want a tiny camera with a big lenses, evf or have to mess with adapters. Thankfully Nikon is making what I want!
srados: I do not own this camera and I agree there is review bias to some other brands.Sometimes DP is leaning to Fuji NIKON,Olympus cameras.I judge cameras by their picture quality and I do pixel peep.To my eye these sample images are comparable and better than Fuji...Fuji seem to me to be a hassle to operate with all mechanical failures (like stuck shutter leafs on some models unreliable WB and focusing). And this is all based from reviews and B&H and Amazon reviews as well...As I said I am not a troll, but I am trying to understand the sentiment of the testers and their preference towards cameras.All above brands,do pump up yellows and reds and maybe share similar sensors.
Good point Olymore. Just think how popular a Olympus camera would be with a large sensor!
Yes, every six months we will come out with a new camera with a different lens mount and one or two primes with the promise of more to come!
intruder61: IS 933 comments a record?
And all this for teasers about a not yet released camera. The doors are gonna blow off this joint on the introduction!
raztec: Nikon haven't done anything right since the D300. Even the D700 had only a 95% viewfinder. What kind of company cripples their pro cameras?
This company is in serious decay mode. They've sold out their name and brand for maximum profit. They are after the fast buck. Building cheap consumer cameras for the masses and holding people heavily invested in Nikon glass by the balls with teasers of 'finally' a camera like the Nikons of old.
Don't hold your breath folks. These guys aren't innovative like Olympus and Fuji, they are your cheap brand name company giving you the toy like V1 and J1 or the problem laden, crippled D600.
Now you have a pretentious retro DSLR that can't be too good or it will 'hurt the sales of their pro DSLRs' or too manual because the 'masses won't buy it'. This company is run by marketers, not creative, risk taking entrepreneurs and innovative engineers.
Keep digging your grave Nikon.
And bringing you the D800 & D800E with the highest DR & resolution this side of a Medium Format back and even rivaling some of them. State of the art autofocus and continuing to craft some of the finest lenses around.
Let's also not forget the D4, you know, the camera seen on the sidelines of every major professional sporting event capturing "the shot".
Cute how Oly warmed over the same old sensor from the previous 2 year old gen camera to use in their new "flagship"!
If this new Nikon view finder has manual focusing aid(s), the D4 16 mp sensor, solid build quality & fits my budget, I am very interested! I'll be the first to head over to B&H to purchase the Zeiss 135 f/2 APO Sonnar, 21 f/2.8 Distagon , 35 f/1.4 Distagon & the 100 f/2 Makro-Plannar to go along with my Nikon 58 f/1.2 Noct.
So yeah...PLEASE bring it Nikon!
luigibozi: "Retro Nikon 'DF' emerges from the shadows" of SONY A7(R) which still doesn't appear in "Cameras receiving the most clicks in reviews and specs in the last five days."Nice "work"
According to Oly's financial reports, not so much!
caver3d: Olympus is always the innovator with others following (Retro look, Live View, 5-axis IBIS, Sensor Dust Reduction system, etc.) . The Nikon DF and Sony A7 are retro ripoffs of the Olympus OMD series (E-M5 and E-M1).
Don't forget Oly's latest features...shutter and sticker shock!
OldZorki: 370 posts on camera without yet known specs or even clean images of the camera. Nikon marketing is doing something right for sure.
Yeah, but the m4/3 trolls are feeling especially hungry tonight!
Nukunukoo: Nikon is in financial turmoil, so the execs figured that it's better to release this niche product rather than the D400?
Get over it Nukunuko, there is no D400 coming. Get with the program and lose those DX dreams. The FF camera of your future is about to be announced on 11/5/13, only you just don't see it yet.
Mirrorless Crusader: Pure photography? What a joke. This is a digital camera. Nikon should get over itself and start making cameras people will actually buy, not some overzealous hipster fashion accessory that doesn't even have a proper LCD.
Yeah, cuz Nikon has sold what, maybe 2 D800's? Get a grip BrainlessCrusader.
SirSeth: Exciting times. Mirrorless is really growing up with the E-M1 and A7--offering something very competitive in a diminutive package. E-M1 advances mirrorless into the crop sensor enthusiast zone losing nothing to APS-C in IQ. The A7/r is most certainly the smallest FF camera with real appeal and the price is right. Nikon looks to be offering something different in FF also by going back to basics with manual goodness. In my opinion, with sales slacking, companies have to branch out and provide something that has mainstream performance as well as special appeal. Companies are taking on a little risk. Camps are going to solidify around these unique designs. Polarizing yes, but in my opinion, it's all good.
I know, it is exciting! The Sony RX100 IQ rivals m4/3 and is even more diminutive.
jacketpotato: Monochrome sensor ?
Would perhaps be what Nikon sees as "Pure Photography"
Sets Df apart from D6xx D8xx not just cosmetically but also internally.
Yeah, like the D800E with 36mp sensor, state of the art auto focus system and the highest IQ of any digital camera short of some medium format backs.
sdribetahi: 'In my hands again' should have some old geezer in the commercial holding it (maybe someone from this forum), as the guy in the ad was like 3 when that style camera was popular.
The numerous polls in your precious m4/3 forum show the age of most users of those cameras to be 50 years and older. Thats why they have to make them small and light so you old farts don't blow a shoulder lifting them to your eye.
Still just the same flat, lifeless images as all m4/3 cameras. No separation (not talking bokeh), everything in the image appears to be on the same plane giving the impression of a one dimensional universe. Lovely colors though!
Light Pilgrim: this is so interesting. Now this lens is the very direct competitor of Zeiss 55 f/1.4 that costs 4000 USD. Nikon will come with the AF, which really helps for portraits...especially on AF cameras:-)
Just wondering what is the IQ comparison of these 2? I am sure people will soon do it properly.
@bgmonroe: First off it's Canon not "Cannon". Secondly, Nikon does not sell me lenses by matching what Canon offers. They sell me lenses by what I need.
Just about every camera company large or small offers a multitude of 50mm lenses in a wide variety of f stops, shapes and colors. Not exclusive to CaNikon.
This is not an "answer" to Canon's 50 1.2 but a modernized offering of the classic 58 Noct-Nikkor. If it was an "answer" to the Canon it would be a Nikkor 50 1.2.
To Bamboojled...re-read my comment. I was replying to bgmonroe and telling him, "No, I think the 50 1.4G is more in line with the Canon 50 1.2L. Both are somewhat compromised with the Nikon offering better quality than the Canon.
This 58 1.4G is a modernized version of the classic 58 Noct-Nikkor updated for todays high MP count digital DSLR."
No, I think the 50 1.4G is more in line with the Canon 50 1.2L. Both are somewhat compromised with the Nikon offering better quality than the Canon.
This 58 1.4G is a modernized version of the classic 58 Noct-Nikkor updated for todays high MP count digital DSLR.
Mirrorless Crusader: You could get the RX10 for $100 less than the D5300 + 18-140mm, and you get a better lens, faster aperture, better wide angle, smaller size, and a superior viewfinder.
And a tiny 1" sensor.
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