munro harrap: Of course it is a concern too that my polite factual posts have both been deleted from here. This has happened before. I do not mind, because that way I learn about people, so it's OK.
I care that others are misled by such censorship.
Now they cannot read that I had to replace my D800 twice, each time by Nikon, who were more than helpful, to get the one I now have, and that in each case it was down to manufacturing defects, as is the case here.
Various people poo-pooed the need for the micrometre precision Nikon and I demand, and I said how glad I was that these characters did not make cameras.
Not exactly controversial, is it?
Do you honestly believe your posts are important enough to be censored?
Rob Sims: DPReview Staff - possible suggestion:When you do these in future, could you also take the same photo with a standard high-end stock camera (eg. Nikon D810 / Canon 5D m3) so we can have something to compare it to? It surely wouldn't double the workload as you're already there taking the photo, but would kill half the negative comments that seem to appear after each of these real-world samples are published.
Disclaimer: This was already mentioned somewhere below, but I think the original comment was meant in jest, despite it actually being a good suggestion.
Your idea has merit, Rob, but would require samples from all the current competitors to give decent results. An unlikely scenario."Even if Canikon is not the "standard" (which I believe they still are, and will be for practical purposes for a while), we still all know what their output is." Not unless "we" own the camera in question.
UnitedNations: I think people have to understand that 'Japanese quality' is no longer the same today.
Nice to see someone young point that out, Rishi. Quality of manufactured goods is far better, across the board, than it was in the "good old daze". More affordable to the average schmuck like me, as well.
Time to get my daily dose of DPR Forum negativity....
Deardorff: Contrast and drama for no reason. Looks like cheap knockoffs of Mitch Dobrowner done poorly. Too much appearance of "I have a computer photo manipulation program - look what I did".Why color in the midst of B&W? Only detracts.
" Looks like cheap knockoffs of Mitch Dobrowner done poorly."That sounds personal to me, MVM. You split the hair your way, and I'll stick with mine ;*)
...as did Deardorff, MVM :)
Paul B Jones: Apropos of not much, most of my family holiday, social event and pet snap shooter coworkers are doing their photography now with smart phones instead of compact point and shoots.
This has changed the nature of the photographs taken. In many peoples' hands the smart phones don't handle low light scenes, bright light scenes or action scenes all that well. I know the phones can take brilliant pictures but it seems a lot of folks don't feel it necessary to put as much effort into their pictures as they used to. It is almost like the phones have changed the social value of photography, turning it from a semi-formal ritual into a mundane and hurried documentation of all random and not random activity.
I guess I am probably coming across as a snob but that is not my intent. The rise of the smartphone is perhaps creating a new form of photography in which the quantity of images taken is more important than their quality. It makes sense that this trend would be reflected in the flickr stats.
Poorly framed pictures of your Uncle Bob, Aunt Jane, and the kids have always been the aim of the average photog --only the details have changed.
Jetranger_Pilot: Honda Civics outsell Mercedes - doesn't make them better.
"By the way late 1960s American cars were better made than many of the American cars that followed--for the next 2 decades. (Now in 2015 US cars have exceeded that 1960s standard.)"We can agree on this.Not on the other ;*)
GodSpeaks: "extremely useful for Macro Photography and Portrait Shooting "
Portrait shooting? Strange, but I have never had the desire to do 2x marco shots of the people of whom I take portraits.
That's the way you fix a problem.The number of small-minded commenters here is appalling.
It's in your head HAR --that's what I mean by fantasy. You continually confuse 'fact' with 'perception'.I notice you like having the last word, too.
Opinions...;)"a 30 year old car, when well made, was less to need repairs than current cars."Fantasy.
I would contend that *no* 30 year-old car was better made, as far as the drivetrain is concerned. The old ones are simpler and easier to repair -especially engine management, but not "better". New cars seldom need repairs at all, especially tune-ups; that's a phenomenal achievement.
Shiranai: They want to rival $5000 DSLRs? Well thats a lot of confidence putting their small APS-C against fullframe. Especially considering their less than optimal lens-range which still lacks a 50mm 1.4 or a 300mm zoom.
And yes, there is something that DSLRs do better - its that their viewfinder has no lag at all. Because even if its 5 milliseconds it can be the moment you miss.And talking about small sized, the NX1 isn't really small sized, they intentionally made it this big to attract DSLR owners, so thats complete marketing-bull.
Any old-school photographer knows you can't capture the moment you 'see' --you're always late. Attempting to anticipate moments is the best you can do, and hope for luck once in awhile.
RedFox88: Thing is, the sand pic has a foreground element: the ripples in the sand. Try again!
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree --there's no detail in the foreground at whatsoever.
Actually, by the lines drawn in the article, it isn't, Erick.Pointless contrarianism.
moving_comfort: The upgrade path is real. It just doesn't necessitate that every single lens purchase you make is part of that path.
The upgrade path is an optional direction to take that might utilize the majority of your past apsc purchases - having *no* upgrade path within your mount doesn't even allow you that option. You're stuck at aps-c, or m43, or whatever... Unless you're willing to sell *everything* and start over with a FF manufacturer.
The upgrade path is very real and an important consideration.
"You're stuck at aps-c, or m43, or whatever..."You're completely missing the point, though. You make it sound like having the right lenses for APSC is a bad thing. That's absurd.
EarthSmiles: It seems that no matter what site you go to, people in the comments section either attack one another or the site itself. There's very little live-and-let-live. I suppose it's just another indication of the polarization of our times.
Are you serious jad?Freedom of speech is a good thing...period.