vFunct: Nikon makes the best cameras - better than Canon.
Nothing else is even in the same league.
Whenever I go to a press event, all the professional photographers are using Nikon or Canon.
There is absolutely nothing else.
Mirrorless cameras are garbage, strictly used by amateurs that do not know professional photography.
This new Nikon is just icing on their top-shelf cake.
I don't know what's more irritating. A fanboy or hater??
image360by180: I truly find it hard to believe Nikon is going back. The digital age is now the age. Bringing out a camera that ignores all the benefits that digital can offer is like making a better old school buggy whip as cars started to replace carriages.
As noted, many seem to like this, good for you, I'm not about judgement or placing my basis on others. Hope this works for you.
For me, this is crazy stupid as Nikon has not even come close to maximizing the digital potential of their DSLR line.
Just a comment from a Nikon D800/D7100 glass invested user.
@Dave Oddie.Absolutely. Don't design retro for the sake of retro. The retro cues are only there cos they represent a time when there weren't all the hinderances of convergent products. So its wise to pay attention to some of those design features and incorporate what's appropriate so the final product is ergonomically complimentary, not a fashion statement.
Raymond Cho: would not a die hard fan just shoot film film and lab services are readily available in cities plus b/w processing is easy, got my first one done without issues just a few months back. it's like getting a mustang and put in a electric engine with builtin satnav and complaining that it doesn't have auto wipers or it may well have that too .. that may be $3,000 per product cycle into film and lab cost.
I think people miss the old-school ergonomics, not shooting film.Its more like some people prefer a Nissan GTR with all the techno wizardry whilst others prefer a Lotus or Caterham. Great performances all round, but very different experiences.
AlanG: What can it do, or do better than other Nikon models? Can I use Canon and Leica lenses on it as with a Sony A7? I don't think so!!!
True, there's no certainty.But do you really think the Sony's can support all those lens, including AF and all.If Sony can, and do it well then I tip my hat to their engineers.But of course then an adapter would be required. It'd become a very flexible jack of all trades hypothetical camera...great!!But some would prefer a more focussed product.
Erick L: When you don't have content, change the container.
Content was already present but the container was a hinderance. So they took away the offending hinderances?
InTheMist: Why this Nikon guy doesn't want mirrorless:- The mount and it's defined focal length allows for a mirror. I certainly don't want to replace all my Nikon glass.- Adapters suck.- I want the instant start, low-power standby with wake-to-exposure times measured in tenths of a second.- I don't want an EVF sucking juice in the background and taking a long time to start.- I want no-compromise focus tracking.
Besides that, I don't want video, don't want the button, don't want the menu items, don't want the engineering time spent on it nor the corresponding increase in price.
I don't want mirrorless in THIS particular camera but I do like mirrorless for other things. There's room for both.Did someone say starting a company?? I'll join ;)
Edmond Leung: By the way, will Sony, Canon..... think about using the Beaulieu 4008ZM4 style for their new 4K cameras?
The style of Beaulieu cameras are..... really beautiful!
I had to look up what Beaulieu cameras are. But if they do what videographers want them to do, then why not?
Prognathous: What I'd really like to see - complete battery-less operation, just like mechanical FM models. To achieve that, Nikon should just bring back the film advance lever and connect it to a dynamo to generate the small amount of power needed to trip the shutter and write to the memory card (maybe even use the light meter for a short time). This way, the camera can continue working even when the battery is completely depleted.
I think this would be a great solution for users in remote areas without easy access to electricity. I don't think such users would complain about using the film advance lever like the old days, especially when its actually required by the camera to function and allows them to use it when all other digital cameras are "dead".
Its not such a bad idea you know. But I doubt this Df is it. It don't think it'll go 'that' basic.
km25: I hope this camera is not $3K. If it D-FM. I should not cost more than a D610 and close to a D800. And no movie.My first Nikon, was a Nikkormat Ftn. It was Nikormat not the F, because the F cost much more, not because the Nikkormat was Retro.
You're forgetting an important digital difference though. The sensor. Which is the single most expensive component and this thing's rumoured to get the D4 sensor which is not a high volume unit. I think it'll be somewhere between a D610 and D800.
Well we don't know yet, not til Nov 5th anyways. But going by the rumours, an uncluttered photographic experience with native F-mount support. Hopefully that photographic experience includes a great optical viewfinder too.No you can't use Leica or Canon lens on it. If you'd like to, its obviously not the camera for you.
camerosity: Looks nice, wonder what the specs will be?? Hopefully similar to the D800, though even "just" 24MP would be nice. This might be a Christmas present.
I'd rather have the D4 sensor over either the Sony 24MP or 36MP but everyone's needs are different.
steelhead3: The d70 has been reborn,,,only can be killed by a stake
How bout a blinking green light? ;)
Vignes: The retro styling hype is more saturated now; it’s become of a ‘me to’ thing. When Olympus introduces the OMD first, that was a great marketing hype but now every other maker has followed with the recent entry like Sony A7. Sony entry is funny because they never made SLR cameras in the 60s and 70s, so there is nothing original about a retro styled Sony DSLR. But Olympus, Nikon, Canon cameras did existed then.
Actually I believe the X100 probably started the current whole retro trend.But I'd argue its not so much the styling but the way the camera and controls feel. Those old designs were never broken but evolved to today's modern designs which are probably more suited for the level of sophistication. But those old ergo's were adequate and very much desired for basic photographic functions.
larrytusaz: The deliberate omission of the senseless YouTube mode alone makes me want to buy it, based solely on that principle alone. Putting YouTube on an SLR totally splatters any purity it would otherwise have.
Ignoring features is fine until the extraneous features start getting in the way of the primary function. That's all really.Modern DSLRs are highly sophisticated. For some that's great. For others they want a simpler experience without giving up the benefits of digital (ie. not going back to film).
Nikon isn't abandoning the D800 type modern camera designs. This is an alternative design based on an alternative philosophy. Some people will get it, some won't. It would appear from the excitement a lot people do like/want the concept.Its not ignoring any modern benefits. Its rumoured to sport the D4 sensor and despite its 'mere 16mp' resolution, sits at the top of the Nikon hierarchy. Not all cameras need to have all conceivable techno-wizardry.Using cars as an analogy, Nissan GTRs are great but many would prefer their Caterhams. Actually this is looking more like a Mercedes Benz SLS - homage to a past design with modern innards.
Agree with jj74e.Whether open camera OS or Android, about time this happened.
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