Marty4650: I still can't believe that Sony branded this camera as a Cyber-Shot. Had they called it a Zeiss, then no one would be concerned about the price. It would seem to be a bargain with a Zeiss nameplate on it.
Calling a high end camera a Cyber-Shot is about like Porsche coming out with a new top model and calling it an Volkswagen. It just makes no sense at all.
And remember.... Sony is the same company that took a $1,000 Sony NEX7 and re-branded it as a $5,000 Hasselblad! Do these people have any idea what they are doing?
Was anybody upset about the Cyber-Shot name in the times of the F828?
SiliconVoid: In recent years I have defended DPReview dozens of times across the internet regarding their integrity and analysis, specifically regarding their ability to assess a product on its own merits and across its designed capability range - instead of penalizing a product for what it lacks in a comparison. THEN I read this review.
If you add the D600 to the scoring module on page-25 you can see what is supposedly areas that would allow it to score differently (higher in this case) and it is interesting that the areas showing better performance are simply not substantiated in the pages of the 6D review. Not to mention areas of heated debate and comparison (the 6D's inferior 11-point AF system and Canon's tired old 63 metering zones) where even though DPR hops on the bandwagon to proclaim Canon's failings of the 6D their own testing shows that the 'lowly' 11-point AF and 'zone' metering system out perform the D600.
What the hell is that, does DPR write the reviews before or after testing???
DPR's reviews may get biased objectively just by the data they are gathering. (What is measured/compared and what is not), Because those "objective" parameters were selected subjectively, and thus may cause bias of evaluation big time. Selecting criteria must be transparent and consistent over time (if it is a prerequisite at all). "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" shows that there is always quality in the quantitative and objective data. In addition, there is the human factor which must be implicated rather then underestimated. Read the review and draw your own conclusion (dare you).
If the results here are similar to those at lenstip, well, you better never finalize this test. So we know now why the unfinished tests
This camera type is a dying species (let`s say it is the" small sensor expert camera", which is as much a bs as the "enthusiast compact"), whatever and however the producers and fans try to resuscitate and reresuscitate them. In the future they might become collectors` items like chinaware or post stamps, or just disposable. Cannot see any development strategy and so future for them. Diversification and niche specialization could be a direction, no signs of those yet.
guermantes: What does this lens add to the line-up, actually? There is the 16mm/f2.8 and the 30mm. What situations would call for this lens? (not wanting to start a flame war, just trying to navigate between all the lenses to understand)
This gonna be a kit lens for the next NEX5. Dont worry about its price... kit status will erode it.
It seems to me many people would need and empty box. Why this list? Why not another? Why 3 Olympus and 1 Fujifilm? Why would be SLT-A57 the best camera of 2012? Why Canon Rebel on the list? Just to have two Canons on the list and 4 Sonys? All in all what the heck?
Sony's SLT design and OVF are patent protected, it will take time until someone can come up with an alternative.
DSLR makers have no choice but keep the buyers attached to OVF designs, and, hence, spread the propaganda about EVF's inferiority.
EVF and OVF are alternatives, not enemies. I wish Sony come up with an updated version of A900 just to keep haters shut up.
"CEO-turned-whistleblower" is an oxymoron. Serious doubts of sincerity and shadows of his misconduct.
Hope he will be a novel writer excellent at fiction, because in the reality he will not be able to get a high position in the corporate world again.
He was no innocent child appointed to CEO, and unaware of corporate business conduct in Olympus. His appointment was a mistake from both parties.
You are kidding if you think of Olympus as an exception or a bad example, or even as a "Japanese or Asean model" of "misconduct".
DPR completely forgot about Samsung EX2F
zinedi: Such tiny size of camera in semi-pro category is a big obstacle for handling not any advantage.
Absolutely agreed. The real problem with this camera is that it is TOO SMALL for a great grip. The other problem is the non-articulated LCD.Unfortunately, marketing department defines the technological development based on achievable claims and not based on market needs. ("The world's ...est "anything")
Its a tragic moment when you watch people killing each other over choosing a pocket camera. Amusing though...
In spite of the Gold Award this camera is a dying species. (With its kins together). There are members of powerful new breeds to replace this type of cameras.
Consider Panasonic GF5 for ca. 500 bucks or the damned Nikon 1 V1 for less than 400 bucks.
timo: At the risk of being dismissed as a Pentax fanboy, I would respectfully ask why the K30, which scored three points more on the (admittedly dubious) scoring system, got only a 'Silver Award'; while this Canon got a 'Gold Award'?
It would be ignoble to suggest that DPReview has regard to which camera companies butter its bread, so I won't. But I would welcome an explanation.
Too much explanations. The best explanation is no explanation, because it is obvious (hence this is not)
luxor2: As shown in the photo of the poor hipster trying to use the viewfinder, the finder is placed poorly for easy use, he has to jam it into his nose and tilt his head to peer thru it. Horizons probably won't be level, a "hipster camera" look?However, finder is good for vertical shots.
thx for sharing
Christmas is coming. More reviews on the way until then
I just cannot get why you have to pay this ridiculous high price for a fair manual control camera.
Still, a gimmick-free, mechanical manual control is a priceless value, and a very expensive and rare buy.
What a debate!! Keeps us and DPR alive!
DotCom Editor: Does it cure cancer? Does it end war? Or famine? No? Hmm, it ain't one of 50 best inventions of 2012. It's -- wait for it, wait for it -- it's a camera.
And what about "The Motion-Activated Screwdriver" or the "Indoor Cloud"? They are on that list...
Anybody read the specifications?1. Slow motion action moment capture: you select image after getting 1.33 sec of action and viewed 3 times slower2. Best moment capture: camera takes 20 shots and selects best 53. Advanced movie mode: you can take stills while taking hd video footage.
And I still cannot get what live image control mode is.
Just think over. This is not what you think to be. I hated V1 and thought it was phony and useless, but V2 is some serious innovation imho.