G1Houston: I am a long time Nikon user and have incorporated m4/3 into my system for its good IQ and compact size. However to photograph my kids, I am now mostly using the almost 3 year old D7100 which is just a blast to use — it is fast, with excellent IQ, and its focus tracking is outstanding. Now Nikon has put a state-of-the-art FF sensor in a body that is even lighter than the D7100 with even better AF and metering system, all for just a little bit over $2,000. I thus wonder what is the advantage of the mirrorless system that dpreview and others seem to promote it as the future of photography? Take A7 as an example, you can make the camera only that small before handling becomes a real problem and its lenses are not substantially smaller than those of Nikon/Canon, and are certainly very expensive. What is the advantage of the mirrorless — why does IT have to be the future?
All I was saying: Do not believe the hype. Do not think that the one holy grail is this or that. Do not think that there is one and only one camera system that solves everything. Try out several systems and use them what they made for. Accept that with the newest systems you also buying into their problems. And firesales show the real cost structure of mirrorless: A7 for 999, nex 6 for 400 bucks. That is the time when you should buy. Cameras are disposable now like smartphones.
@mcslsk: Blurry answer. The real answer: MILC manufacturers invest a lot into concept PR, and it has an effect. Maybe not enough effect in your view. I have MILC and DSLR. And I heard a million times that MILC is the future. Everybody starts to believe it. IQ-wise no difference. Cost wise: MILCs are cheaper to produce: that is why it is the future.
There is really important information in this interview:1. On sensor PDAF is difficult to improve to the level of present DSLR modules. My bet is on algorithms and processing power as problems, but there could be other hurdles too.2. The new high megapixel sensor generation is upcoming next year.3. Mirrorless development is ongoing and new camera(s) is also shortly upcoming (hopefully more serious than an M3 would be)4. From his comments on sensor technology it seems Canon is proud of its color rendering more then low ISO DR. They have no other choice so far. Looks like a manufacturing hurdle .As we all know the Japanese culture is more about continuous bit by bit improvements than about disruptive innovation. The latter is generally not coming from Japan.
kadardr: A new market segment would be if Fujifilm put a 24Mp Sony sensor in it. Also the sensor could be tested by DxOMark, and could be used with ACR processing after raw shooting. I wonder how many would sell of which...
Thanks for the answers. It was worth to ask the question.
That's the point. I meant the 24-mp sensor with Bayer array. Would solve the headache for many fence sitters.
A new market segment would be if Fujifilm put a 24Mp Sony sensor in it. Also the sensor could be tested by DxOMark, and could be used with ACR processing after raw shooting. I wonder how many would sell of which...
Zeisschen: So finally a DSLR that is almost on mirrorless standards in terms of AF accuracy and FPS. If it wouldn't be 2 times the size and weight to achieve that, it would actually be an exiting camera... But sorry, it's 2014 Canon!! If you didn't have the large user base and lens selection, nobody would buy it for that prize!
Sony is just about to abandon A mount system altogether. They are tried and trusted on abandoning.
Stephan Def: Thanks I really enjoyed your "cheet sheet" its good to have concise summarys like that one.
You say:"but judging by the amount of energy Nikon is putting into creating affordable FX optics" ...
Which affordable FX optics are you talking about? And can you say a word or two about their quality. It would be good to have kind of a quality index for FX lenses. The only FX lens that comes to my mind is the 24-70 2.8, which is kind of expensive, However it does not have OIS, which is a shame for a lens in that price range. If Nikon wants to convince people to move to FX they need to get much more serious about their lens lineup in that area. Alternatively Nikon could put OIS into their bodies, which would solve most of those issues and other Vendors are just that.
As example, what about the 1.8G prime line? Or 70-300 VR?
jedy: I don't know why Canon cling onto the high end dslr aps-c camera, even with the sports and wildlife argument. Lots of photographers I know have either gone full frame or mirrorless rather than buying an expensive aps-c dslr. I do believe mirrorless cameras will improve and lens choices will get better and this seems more like the natural home for the aps-c sensor. Canon should be looking more seriously at mirrorless cameras as they are bound to threaten the dslr dominance as technology improves and more with full frame sensors appear. I'm sure there'll be plenty of gear whores eager to get their 'newer' and 'better' fix who will buy this though.
Ask D400 preachers
Serious Sam: I am only reading the first page, and you ask me to spend $2799.99 on a Samsung camera..... Nah I don't think so!!
You can get almost all Samyang lenses for Samsung. They are all good for video.
When the dust settles and the smoke clears I am sure that many people will realize that D750 is being a really significant FF camera of this decade. It is a DSLR. No revolution is implied with that definition. No one is expecting a 120-key keyboard on a new grand piano. I hope the mirrorless revolution will make cameramen get over with DSLR movie making, and it becomes what it is: a fringe benefit. For the others: You can still buy a new D300S body for about 1000 euro in Europe. For that matter the same price will get you a new K-3 body as well.
nerd2: D300 and D700 was photographers' wet dreams: Same AF, same body grade, same UI, same shutter and same continuous shooting as the flagship D3.
I still miss the old good days..
It's the price differentiation. Nowadays D610 body can be bought for just about $1500. Don't expect D750 prices to drop any time soon.
Bearsdenoboe: Looks wonderful, especially the promised picture quality. However, even my 8 year old D700 offers flash sync to 1/320th: is that really impossible to include now, or a petty meanness? Could it be fixed by a firmware upgrade perhaps? I use that all the time in bright sunlight.
Now all that is needed is to shed the mirror and get the weight down to around 450 gms, offer a totally silent, electronic shutter, and maybe Nikon will stop a mass desertion to Sony / Fuji. DSLRs are tools for those who really need them.
The answer you find with Ken Rockwell: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d750.htm#missing
Stephan Def: This is still NOT going to make me buy Nikons grossly overpriced FF - Lenses (aka holy trinity). The very least I would have expected is in-Body stabilization, so that older FF Glass can work stabilized, however even Nikons current Glass is not stabilized on FF.
Other than that, DSLR is getting really old, there are tons of missing state-of-the-art features. Also Nikon has discontinued their capture nx2 software and are not saying a word about jpeg quality or addtional in-camera processing options.
Overall I will be looking into other options. Sony A58 can be had for a fraction of the price (like 370€) has in-body stabilization and excellent jpeg quality with very many processing and shooting options. It also supports a wagon-load of very good lenses at reasonable prices all of that at a very high-quality 20MP.
I think Nikon is very confused about their technology and product line-up, they look desperate to me, with no coherent & future proof strategy going forward.
This is a very naive statement. I wish you 2 A58s.
Currently this Nikon D750 is the most balanced 24 Mp FF DSLR. Good for the Nikon enthusiasts, who will not long for the similar 5D Mark III, and good for the Canon lovers as the 5D Mark III prices will match the D750 price (from above or from below depending on the D750's success). Very good times indeed.
km25: Nice, but I still think a high speed short zoom lens would be wonderful. A equal of a 28-70 at F2.8 would be nice.
That's another camera.
Rod McD: I know this is principally a gear driven site, but I think products like these very exclusive and expensive lenses must lead us to ask whether the gear is more important than who's behind it and what's in front of it. Adams, HCB, Capa - none of them had lenses as good as we have today. Did it matter? An image is more about moment and content than technology.
You have to man up to use this gear.
The Otuses provide the camera makers with strong incentive to further enhance Mpx xount (FF 50 MP could go easily from the present 24.3 Mp APS-C sensor), and to really think about the improvement of manual focus mode of modern cameras (both optical and live view).
For your consideration:http://blog.mingthein.com/2014/09/09/lens-review-zeiss-zf-2-1-4-85-otus-apo-planar/
jhinkey: I can see a lot of potential uses for the QX1 - uses where you want a compact imaging device with a big sensor and can use some decent (and potentially fast) glass.I see a lot of creative types jumping all over this.
Actually QX1 can use a much bigger and much better quality LCD than any NTX or A's camera had, and if its app is as good as the best smartphone camera apps, well then I am in.