It seems that with the advent of X-T1, the X-E2 refresh is pretty much uninteresting. One tier cheaper though.
DonSantos: Well I'm about so sell my "gold" award x-e2 with the awesome fuji 35mm 1.4 and upgrade the the "silver" sony a7 + zeiss 55mm 1.8.
Am I crazy?
@AndyCrowe: You may not make a big deal out of awards, but the Gearshop and some other online retailers do, as they are selling stuff by the DPR award score. So this can be a serious marketing tool however DPR staff tries to downplay it. You cannot believe anybody in marketing. I used to be so I know
justmeMN: Another mirrorless camera featuring a DSLR Envy Design. :-) Since you can't beat them, try to look like them.
In the name of the DPR community I would like to sincerely apalogize Nikon Management for our rude and uncivilized style of commenting their thoughtful and polished interview statements. I do this to strengthen mutual trust in Nikon. I am sure you struggle to maintain this trust with your shareholders under the ever changing and challenging market environment. I am also sure you struggle to maintain any trust with your customers, including us. That is the reason for this rude behavior from our part. You have to avoid the overestimated value proposals (initial Nikon 1, Df, 1.4/58mm), and quality issues (D600). You have to plan your communication better, like the above. You have to manage customer perceptions much better. After then we will see.
b craw: Vast contrast in energy and forward thinking between Nikon guys and others - anemic attitude on Nikon's part.
But let's not fool ourselves, Nikon is observing a simple economic reality; they did (and arguable continue to) develop a sound DSLR consumer base. And even if they would otherwise be compelled to, many of these customers have invested in multiple lens that discourage a brand change over. This coupled with a marketing mechanism that continues to win out in a bigger-is-better consumer mentality in Western markets. Only at the point of truly diminished returns on this emphasis will Nikon (and Canon) produce better mirrorless models. Even then, both makers will maintain a relatively conservative stance, able to carry over decent numbers milking name recognition. Economics discourage much else innovative, or inspiring until that point, wherein the playing field will be much more level.
I have the same logic on Canikon product evolvement. Obviously profit driven.
Nukunukoo: "our cameras need to evolve"... You think??? Seriously, these one-year incremental, "evolutions" don't look that inspiring to me. As a long-time Nikon user, let me tell you what your marketing people don't seem to grasp: you're getting left behind!
Nikon 1 system: big jump - bad reception. Nikon Df: very (D)if(f)erent - bad reception. D3100-3200-3300, D5100-5200-5300: smash hits everywhere.What would you do in such situation?
(Just whispering: maybe the reviewers are being too conservative?)
raztec: "...in the long run customer trust is very important." I wish CaNikon would understand this.
...and also Sony.
Zerg2905: Only Gold? This camera deserves a rare element not yet found on Earth. This is The First and (probably not) The Last, The Alpha and Omega of all cameras. Ever. And ever. A-men! Hallelujah! Cheers, and cheers again! :) :) :)
Try to consider this: for one-hand shooting at arm length and with a firm grip, this DP Quattro design seems to give the best ergonomy. But is this ergonomy necessary for a Sigma DP camera? It may be that the best grip for such a camera is a tripod. Other questions like the sufficient operational speed and the efficient and practical UI are to be answered later by the early adopters.
RichRMA: Fuji's noise control in RAW and lack of moire is impressive, but images have to be sharpened up a bit to match the Sony sensor output. Resolution is pretty much the same for both.
@JustaPhotog: Your quotation is about behavior with non-Sony brand lenses. The problem is not the quality of raw, but the lack of a sufficient selection of original brand glass for A7, which will be the cheapest FF body soon anyway. So we might cheer up a little bit.
The most important takeaway for me is that mirrorless cameras are cheaper to manufacture then the mirrored ones. After the public majority will think that mirrorless is the way to go, the prices will come down substantially (effects of volume and depreciation of development and PR investment costs.) On the other side DSLR manufacturers will start to perceive their profits eroding as their prices are going down gradually to keep up. When volume cannot compensate the erosion, well then CANON/NIKON will launch their serious mirrorless lines.
kadardr: From a manufacturing point of view a mirrorless camera must be cheaper to produce than a DSLR (fewer parts, lesser complexity). From a cost perspective a mirrorless camera should be sold cheaper than a DSLR. Mirrorless producers should also invest into concept and product PR, what they do at full extent and it shows in the prices. For their asking price Fujifilm gotta give supreme quality and sublime product support for life, and they really try their best (with moderate success so far).What I am emphasizing here is that please wait until prices get reasonable, because the reserve in launch prices must be high.
Their price is shown when sold separately (not the cost though)
From a manufacturing point of view a mirrorless camera must be cheaper to produce than a DSLR (fewer parts, lesser complexity). From a cost perspective a mirrorless camera should be sold cheaper than a DSLR. Mirrorless producers should also invest into concept and product PR, what they do at full extent and it shows in the prices. For their asking price Fujifilm gotta give supreme quality and sublime product support for life, and they really try their best (with moderate success so far).What I am emphasizing here is that please wait until prices get reasonable, because the reserve in launch prices must be high.
DPR:"it's pretty clear that Fujifilm doesn't see the X-T1 as competing with mirrorless cameras, but with the enthusiast-level DSLRs such as the Canon EOS 70D, Nikon D7100, and Pentax K-3." 70D: $1199, D7100: $1147, K-3: $1049, Fuji X-T1: $1299 (body only). My heart is with my wallet.
That is MILC identity crisis when they want to look like SLRs of the eighties, and we say how nice and how new. It seems SLR-look sells well. When a MILC looks like a DSLR, it is less than a DSLR. If a MILC wants to be more than a DSLR, it needs to have a big tilting EVF with very high refresh rate, and an articulated LCD screen, nevertheless a touch-screen. To keep up with smartphones the screen should be at least 4". Pocketability is a myth, and smartphones will always be better in pockets. AF speed still remains an issue.
One thing is sure: Sony Alpha 7 series (A7/R) initiated new momentum and growth on the FF camera market.
In one year there will be several new full frame cameras launched, there can be other mirrorless ones, and not only from Sony.
Competition and volume will make prices go down.
What I got here from the review and the comments:Never get jumpy and buy a camera at the time of launch. Wait until the dust settles.
This business is for tinkerers. Buy camera-brand lenses and take your images. No original lenses? Well, that's a problem. Now you work for Sony's PR machine. I had to give up on Sony. Life is to short to wait for them growing up as a mature photography company.
Why many see political issues and social problems in these pictures? These images are like 19th century paintings, very detailed, very academic.They are beautiful. Beauty of decay. Basis of something new.