Jote: This (unusual for Sony) "feature addition" clearly indicates that there will be no RX10 line refresh anytime soon.
Why is it unusual for Sony? Who is it usual for?
kwa_photo: Wow....you know what has frozen over! A FW update from Sony!!! Yippee!!! Why just Windows so far??? I'd venture to say that almost 70%+ photographers I know use Mac and not Windows. Strange choice.
Did I say that they did? I am talking about the constant barrage of firmware updates for many other brands and devices. I certainly appreciate the updated features here and was commenting on the 'absence' of firmware fixes because they haven't been necessary. I WOULD have been annoyed if this needed a firmware fix every month because of laziness and releasing before being market ready.
Martin87: Sony posting a firmware update for their cameras? That's quite unusual for them
I meant is it unusual to get a FW update. I'm sure that the FZ1000 is selling well.
You mean a firmware update? Yes this is the first firmware update in the 9 months since the RX10 launched and a significant one at that... how many do you expect?
I may be in the minority here, but I can't help but feel that a dedicated device such as a camera should really do what it claims on the box and not need constant updating. I know we are used to being served up half-baked products and a constant stream of betaware that we continually have to update to fix everything that was broken when it shipped, or got broken in the last FW update.
Hmmm an interesting and funny wrap up :)
It would have been nice if you mentioned that that ridiculous (though 'some' might think 'pretty', like an X30 apparently) perfume bottle selfie camera thing is the first camera ever to have a curved sensor - that makes it one of those 'weird cameras that started it all' and not just for the explosion of dedicated 'female friendly' selfie cameras that are going to hit the market.
BobYIL: Smallest of the MF format; only 30 x 45mm, a little larger than the FF... Only 37.5MP, a little more than the D800 series 36MP... A phased out CCD sensor to turn obsolete in couple of years in the world of MF-CMOS. Hopefully they can sell this "only 100 units" of limited edition. (BTW, would it differ much if the new lens was offered for $4K?)
"Obsolete" will depend on how much you like CCD vs CMOS.
The Mac update is out, I guess just not posted on all the Sony worldwide sites yet.
Hell froze over? I guess all those other updates just never happened right?
pew pew: dam sony.. I wanted the a6000 now you tempt me with the a7s..
@pkosewski - So you haven't actually used an A7S? Yep, I thought so.
So it 'needs' a 70-400mm lens right? And where is the A6000 equivalent that is SO small? Yep I thought so.
"Slowish responsiveness" again having only used the slow, loud and clunky A7R gives you about zero experience with the A7S. They are very very different in operation (apart from the physical size / controls which to me a very decent for the size).
A6000 has 'easy to advertise, popular among amateurs' such as "worlds fastest AF***", "24MP", "179 AF points", "11fps**" and so on. Exactly the things that someone like you think make it 'better'.
It may be nowhere near an SLR in handling, but neither is the A6000. You can't compare to another mirrorless and then drop 'well it isn't any good because it doesn't handle like an SLR'. Personally I prefer the handling to the many DSLRs I have used. Also, unlike the A6000 the A7's can use an optional grip, which gives it far more DSLR like handling.
mpgxsvcd: Not a ton to praise here but also not a lot to hate on. A nice solid little camera. I still think the Olympus E-PM2 is a better value at $170.
A cheap NEX-5T/5R with 16mm pancake (24mm equiv) could foot the bill. These can be had cheap and the time lapse app will work with them, also the lens is dirt cheap (but not super hot either, but still ok in this context).
Another option is a Ricoh GR, top shelf everything, super small and light with excellent built in intervalometer and has excellent battery life doing time lapse.
Either of these can be set to whatever interval you prefer.
orion1983: Looks as if SELFIE-features are most important nowadays...apart from all other technicals. Ridiculous trend.....they should stick with their cell phone to make precious selfies which the world is waiting for!
Nope that's right, the n100 - basically an S120 minus RAW plus a rear 'photographer camera' and some software to do picture-in-picture.
Didn't Canon already do that with the powershot-n or something?
1) See now you talk from YOUR perspective, when giving your advice to others. Believe it or not, that person may not own a 5D... Just because you are happy with what you have, doesn't mean this will be the case for others. You also went on to say that even A7S users can't justify why it's better, I just did and you say 'well that doesn't matter... to me'.
2) The A7S is very speedy. Sorry, but it is. Burst mode may be limited to 5fps but that is not 'my' concern. I also don't really care how many fps the 645Z does. I can shoot as much as I ever need to without the camera ever slowing down once.
3) So the A7S is worse for being too small, but it is bigger than the A6000? That makes a bucket load of sense! Also the lenses are far from huge and as mentioned using equivalent FL's and F-ratios they are no bigger. In fact the 35mm f2.8 is considerably smaller than the 24mm f1.8 for APS-C... So uhm, no, this has no weight to it at all. I shot over 1000 shots on one battery on the w/e...
Then you have the issues of whether your lenses are actually doing a decent job of resolving all 24MP of the A6000 (~54MP FF) vs the A7S which works well with just about anything you stick in front of it.
Lenses aren't smaller if you need equivalent FL / F-Ratios. This page shows the A7S performs about 3 stops better than the GH4, that means for every 'crappy' f4 zoom on the A7S you would need an f1,4 zoom on the Panasonic (or around an f1.8-2 zoom on the A6000) - Wanna tell me how 'small' that lens will be? The extra latitude of the A7S offers you more control than ever before for even medium shooting. Previously yes with a fast lens you could shoot at f1.4 or f1.8 and get something that kind of works, it was the max you could go so if would suffice. Now you can shoot the same scene at f4 and get similar results with greater DoF. OR you can go the other way and get the same DoF and cleaner results, depending on the shot you need. So you have more control over how your shot looks.
Those who moan about the A7S vs something like the a6000 have a) never used one and b) don't like it because it is 'expensive'. They need to clarify what they say with 'for the price' ie 'a6000 is better... for the price'. Then maybe, just maybe that would be true.
Don't believe the nonsense of people who have no clue and base their judgements off 'what they read on the internetz'. A7S doesn't just handle noise better, it handles colour and DR in a way that normally drops off very quickly from base ISO on pixel packed Sony sensors, but the A7S retains that information far better. That's not looking at 'noise' that is looking at usable information stored in the resulting image. Ever at ISO 3200 or 1600 etc the A7S absolutely trounces high MP APS-C cameras in this area.
Next up video. Not even a contest... Moving on. Totally poles apart.
Silent shutter. Better VF. Better build. Quad Nav vs debilitated dual dial. Optional battery grip. Bigger buffer due to smaller files.... TBC
ManuelVilardeMacedo: This camera makes me wonder whether there will be a need for an E-P7.
Why not? The E-P5 is still a much better handling camera. E-P5 really isn't any more expensive either when bundled with the 17mm and VF4 kit.
Seems they moved the one dial from the back to the top (good) without actually thinking about how you use it. Of course pressing 'up' and twiddling the dial on the back makes sense being that you'll be down there anyway, but moving the dial to the top but leaving the 'modifiers' down where the dial used to live is not cool.
abortabort: It's a pity those LEDs will be the most polarising feature of the K-S1. In all other respects it seems to be a better 100D and filling a void that the a55 left behind (the 100D also did this but with poor build, poor VF and poor performance, 4 years later).
The K-S1 on the other hand at least appears to have better controls (despite the gimmicks), much better VF, better sensor with no AA filter (plus AA simulation - best of both worlds), in body IS, a good selection of small primes, decent AF, optional WiFi control.
Weather sealing would have been icing on the cake, but is fine without it.
Again it's a pity that the only thing people will comment on is LEDs where in reality it is getting closer to being a small frame decently spec'd Enthusiast Camera for those who still prefer a DSLR.
Yeah agreed. 100D was interesting until I handled one. Small nasty and outclassed.
brownie314: The K-50 is bigger. BUT - it is bigger in the right place - hand grip. Looks to me like the D-50 is the better deal. Only slightly larger and so many more features.
What features 'so many more'? Other than a second control dial and WR? Seems it has a lesser sensor, not compatible with FluCard, AA-Filter etc.
Richard Murdey: K-50 is so much better in every possible respect that the K-S1 can only be described as being "for stupid people who don't know any better".
Or people who want a smaller body without going the mirrorless route. People who want a better sensor than the K-50 offers and couldn't give a toss if it has some LEDs they'd never use.
To me it looks like a much better K-01 with an actual (100% coverage pentaprism) VF without being much bigger.
Of course if it isn't an ugly black lump of a thing it can't possibly be 'serious' and only for stupid people. It's such a pity that Pentax had to tone down the K-30 and make the world's most boring K-50 'update' to serve the masses.