Mike Fewster: The Leica is going to sell a lot of Sony RX1s. It is already directing attention back to that camera Pick up an RX1, the build quality is at Leica levels. Would you prefer a 27 mm or a 35mm lens on a fixed focal length camera? Check the IQ of an RX1, only the very best large bodies pro FF with the very best glass are with it. Now compare the price of the Sony and the Leica.Then there is the rumoured replacement for the RX1. If rumours are correct, it will have the new patented curved Sony sensor which should be a technological breakthrough in terms of size/cost IQ. I'd probably buy the RX1 in prefeernce right now but there is now way I'd buy the Leica until I had seen the new RX1.
Plus Sony's 24MP sensor can't do 10fps.
LukeDuciel: Yes I want one. But no I will not buy one.
For the money, I would buy an A7R2 and slap on my M-mount lenses; then I still have quite some bucks left for a decent trip.
And for guys that looking at RX1, I would seriously suggest trying one before you make the order (or be prepared to return the ones you buy online).
The RX1 / 1R (esp. 1R)'s IQ is top notch and nearly unbeatable in 35mm FF term. But the form factor, operation and UX (errr~~~) is kinda miserable. It is practically operating an RX100 with a much heavier and big lens barrel, which is probably bearable as an Point&Shoot but not so much as a serious photog's tool.
Except that the RX1 is bigger and more comfortable to hold, has bigger more tactile buttons, has two dials plus a dedicated aperture ring and dedicated focus ring, macro ring and exp comp dial. In fact there isn't actually a whole lot that is similar, apart from the menus and 'some' of the 'look'.
xtoph: i am sick and bloody tired of people saying that rangefinders, or manual cameras generally, are "obsolete" technology. they are not obsolete; they are old. like pencils, old technology is not necessarily obsolete technology. it would be merely pedantic pickiness, except that it betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of what rangefinders are good for, how people (who know how to use them) use them, and why. and then to propose that slr focusing, let alone af, is more 'straightforward'? think that through again, why don't you. i can easily understand if people cannot justify the $12k to spend on a leica m240+lens--it's a lot of money, and people have to work with what they can. but enough with the false rationalizations. oh, and while we're on the subject, this weekend i shot a fast-moving dance rehearsal at f/2, on my m, and had no problem nailing focus. in fact i outperform my 5d2 with it by a considerable margin (the 5d3 pulls even, and for certain types of sequences, is better.)
Absolutely agree. I was thinking the same thing and had to re-read it a few times... I came to the conclusion that he meant it was either a) mechanically more complex and therefore susceptible to problems more easily or b) that they are harder to make. Not so much that they are harder to focus (assuming everything is correctly calibrated). I think it would be a poor argument to say that focussing was more difficult than MF a modern DSLR.
tkbslc: The X100 series has delivered on this camera's exact goal for several years now. Not sure what the fuss is about.
Yes, it is exactly the same as the X100 except it's more expensive... Oh wait.
ttran88: Sony is the only camera maker that wants our money. I seriously don't even know what to buy from Nikon or Canon any more.
'The Catch 22 is that Canon and Nikon are the ones selling the lenses you'd want to use.'
You mean that YOU want to use?
'D610 for a lot less money and better AF.'
Because you have done extensive testing of this camera of course...
munro harrap: But battery-wise it is almost on a par with a Merrill . The batteries are dreadfully inadequate even on APS-C, but with the stabilization, bigger sensor count, and constant live view, you'll be missing shots changing batteries
I have easily shot over 1500 shots per battery on A7S.
RichRMA: The backlighting might be a substantial improvement. The extra 6 megapixels? Window-dressing.
Actually think it is for proper subsampling for 4K. Plus all the speeding up of the sensor etc.
bmwzimmer: Back side illuminated sensors on the samsung NX1 and NX500 still does not perform better than Nikons apsc sensors from a noise and dynamic range perspective. They are somehow able to squeeze more out of their sourced Sony sensors than anyone else can. The key IMO is the Image stabilization to allow you to use this camera without a tripod. Canon highly suggests the use of tripods with their 5dsr but this camera doesnt. The focus points means nothing to me until i see it being able to shoot birds in flight against strong backlight. Overall though, i think this camera is a home run.
Actually Sony don't use the 24MP sensor in the D610 / D750 in any of their cameras. Nikon D800E and A7R (original) are the only two I can think of that use the same and are VERY VERY close.
Yes BSI improved the poor abilities of Samsung sensors, it will improve the excellent abilities of the Sony sensors.
Sam147: RIP Canon Get your act together NikonGoodluck PentaxKickass Sony!
Really? How long did Nikon take to get the 20MP 1" sensor? How about the A7S 12MP sensor? There is nothing to suggest this is a widely available sensor, or it would show up in their sensor catalogue. This one is Sony only for now (which means likely 2+ years).
Market XP: how you update a camera .
ThePhilips: 3 articles on DPR's front page - if anything, Leica knows how to make product launches.
Didn't the X-T10 get the same treatment?
ChowMonkey: When can we expect the more affordable Panasonic counterpart?
All for a whopping $200-300 less... but no copy of lightroom.
abortabort: Fixes the light blinking for too long.
Breaks compatibility with 3rd party batteriesBreaks compatibility with 3rd party lensesBreaks compatibility with non-Nikon branded SD cardsLimits compatibility with 3rd party flash unitsBreaks compatibility with wireless triggersImproves compatibility with Nikon 20mm f1.8 lensIncreases ISO range to 12823, up from the previous 12,800
Nikon believes all customers will get great value from this firmware update and customers are urged to update immediately.
Yes, the first two at least have been undocumented 'features' with some Nikon FW updates. The others are actually not much of a stretch, they seem to bring out these somewhat meaningless, vague updates as a carrot to implement these changes. That's where I 'made up' that very tiny ISO advancement as said carrot.
Fixes the light blinking for too long.
dachshund7: Congrats to Sony, and likely Fuji as well: I expect to,see a similar report on their success with mirrorless systems. Morevchoices are a good thing.
But here's one photographer who's not ditching Canon. I still use my DSLRs more than my mirrorless camera, despite the heft. I still prefer a TTL system. Go figure.
@joed700: Only for LCD based EVFs, such as E-M1 and X-T1, OLED EVFs aren't polarised so work fine with polarised glasses.
danieljcox: Most everybody I know who have made the switch to mirrorless have done so for three major reasons. 1). Smaller size, 2). Lighter weight, 3) Less expensive.
Most people hear the word mirrorless and they think Sony qualifies for all of the above reasons to switch. But unfortunately that is not true. The number one reason I hear from my students who are thinking about going mirrorless is size & weight. A full frame Sony will accomplish this goal for the body only. The lenses are the same old Nikon and Canon story. Large, heavy and expensive. If you want small mirrorless with professional image quality I would suggest looking at the Panasoinc Lumix system. It's replaced all my Nikons for most subjects and the saving in weight and costs have been a dream come true.
Daniel J. Coxwww.naturalexposures.com
'Voigtlander 15mm, no AF, no IS.'
Cool, can you please show me the small UWA prime for Panasonic that has AF and IS? No? Well there we go.
' AND, when it comes to sports, wildlife and nature, the big lenses I use like the 80-400mm, the 600mm F/4, 300 F/2.8. All sony models are equal to or heaver and even more costly than my Nikons.'
Which ones are you referring to? Sounds like you are simply making this up, considering they don't exist in E-Mount.
'Compare the amazing Olympus 40-150mm F/2.8 in price and size to the closest thing Sony has and there really is no contest.'
I shoot an A7S and had an E-M1, shooting with a Tamron 70-300mm USD or Sony 70-300mm G works out roughly the same as this lens in terms of size, weight and images captured. But is significantly cheaper and for moving subjects focused better than my E-M1, before and after v3 firmware update.
But anyway, I am sure these are the 'facts' as you see them.
justmeMN: Sony's press release has done a good job of hype and spin, but Sony's May 27, 2015 financial documents state that they only have (by value) a 11% (worldwide) ILC market share.
'For those who din't know, Olympus, Panasonic and Samsung have a much larger market share.'
Hahaha what combined?
TriezeA72: More would switch over to Sony's if they had a decent line of native primes.
Define decent? 18 months in there are:
25mm f2 28mm f235mm f1.435mm f235mm f2.855mm f1.885mm f1.8 OS90mm f2.8 OS macro
There are another 8+ lenses slated for the next ~12mths not including what Zeiss will bring with their Loxia and Batis lines, surely not all of those 8+ will be zooms, so I would expect around another 8 primes in the next 12mths. Plus anything that comes out of CV, Sigma and Samyang in that time.