DouglasGottlieb: I guess they think that a more Fuji X100 style model would cut into M or T sales.
This camera should have an integrated EVF.
Or be much smaller, like the Ricoh GR.
As have I. The GR lens is perfectly matched to the sensor, something that Samsung lenses cannot EVER be. You argument is absolutely based on you saying "I know, you don't" and you want to say that I am making claims I can't support? What supporting evidence have you provided? Exactly, none. Ask Ming Thein what he packs, D810, Otus, 645Z and Ricoh GR... See any Samsung cameras / lenses in there?
"I've mostly used the cameras and lenses that I comment on" as do I, except you, as you said yourself have only used the GR in low light once, not exactly a good test of a lens (but of course YOU are such an expert aren't you?). I have used it extensively as well as the Samsung 20mm and 30mm primes which I used to own.
But you will keep saying you know better, because you are simply stubborn. No point replying with your 'expert' opinion.
"'silent' control of aperture and shutter speed using on-screen sliders (avoiding the click of the physical dials)"
So it has a touch screen? I thought it didn't?
Yes I do.
Samsung have nothing close to the GR's lens.
Have you used a GR? Anyway you said better and faster as two separate things, it may be faster, but the Leica will be amazingly good if it is just as good as the Ricoh.
Geez a lot of complaints / comparisons by the specsperts on the new X, to me it looks like a darn fine camera and probably the first Leica X I would consider buying, considering the following points:
The new lens is faster than the one for the Leica T, probably the lens to get for that system, plus this whole camera including lens is pretty close to that lens on its own, plus you get a more traditional control scheme camera.
The lens is half a stop faster than the X100 series and likely to be considerably better wide open. Considering these are fixed lens cameras and will only ever use that lens, this is a big plus. Also consider how much we pay for a lens to go from f1.8 say to an f1.4 version.
Compared to the RX1 it is also a half stop faster, but loses out on the bigger sensor which sticks it about halfway between an X100 and an RX1 and the price is about in the middle (RRP anyway) between the two.
Bit unlike the other two this has a real, scaled focus ring (!) which is unheard of in this type of camera. Cannot believe nobody has mentioned it! Also looks like a very clever way to switch between MF and AF.
The EVF is supposed to be excellent (but expensive), so better than the other two there. Also the OVF is nice as well and not badly priced.
Yes there are cheaper cameras, but that doesn't make this bad or even particularly 'overpriced', just maybe more than many are willing to pay for a fixed lens camera. Me I would have a touch time.choosing between this and the RX1.
I do have to wonder if DPR actually played with any of this stuff or did they just pick it and, take a snap of it and move on.
A 'better' lens? Are you sure about that? Faster yes.
Seeky: It looks good (the X, not the X-E), but then a Sony RX1 looks also good and it has a FF sensor in a slightly smaller body although it is a bit more expensive. It's remarkable that there are so few APS-C fixed lens cameras outside Leica though.
Ricoh GR, Coolpix A, X100/S/T, DP1/2/3 and R1.
pacnwhobbyist: Wonder what the pricing on the 16-85 will be.
Canon, Nikon and Sony in this range are all around $600+
CatsAreFineArt: "And yes, we'll bring a polarizing filter next time."
Couldn't manage to find one at the largest photo show in the world? I thought I had it rough in the suburbs.
Uhm, there is not a single 'mirrorless' camera lens I can think of that doesn't have a filter thread. I suspect you are thinking 'compact camera'.
Rod McD: These lenses have been discussed in the last couple of days in the Fuji Forum. There's a fair bit of interest in them.One unresolved question is why the 90mm f2 is as big as it is. SLR 90-100mm f2 lenses from the film era had filter diameters of around 52-55mm. The AF Nikon 85mm f1.8 covers FF and still only has a 62mm filter. The Fuji 90mm will also be AF, but only has to cover APSC, yet it appears to be a monster of a lens with a filter size of 72mm. Unless there's some hidden technical reason within, it appears to be a bit over the top. Where's the APSC advantage? Certainly too big for me.
And no 1:1 macro lens with a FL longer than the current 60mm?
Yes, they are secretly making 56mm f1.2 medium format lenses for $1000. Well wishful thinking never hurt I guess.
I see you have managed to find the preproduction / mock up lenses at photokina... well at least for Fuji.
Serious Sam: What Barney said about how Fuji provide information of their upcoming lens release is very true and praise by many photo site and Fuji user. It allows people to plan ahead. Although their timing is not always perfect but the products always materialize....unlike u know who.
That 16mm 1.4 is so tempting and good to see they decided to put a DOF scale on it (the picture on the road map don't have it). It would also mean that this lens has dead stop infinity and not focus on wire. GOOD CALL!!
ephankim: Why aren't all the lens prototypes (28/2, 90/2.8 G Macro, 35/1.4 ZA & 24-240) included in this report?
And DPR staff are 'normal' general public visitors are they?
abortabort: Still no word, despite visiting and reporting on the Sony booth, from DPR about the prototype lenses announced and previewed at photokina? No I supposed that would go against what DPR believe in.
Agree with everybody above. No mention of the A77 II in the 7D II write up even though in reality it is the newest of the competition and on specs at least the closest. But nope, nothing, zip.
Then flip over to the G7X write up, comparing to the RX100 III all over and how much more 'engaging' it will be because it has a clicky ring and the RX100 doesn't 'ooh aah' (like we haven't heard that before from Mr Britton) and the fact that the RX100 III has an EVF however is a footnote "if you really need that sort of thing"... are they serious? How many comments on DPR alone are about the lack of viewfinder on cameras? And hey you know what makes a camera 'engaging'? Having a bloody viewfinder!
We get it, you guys love Olympus, Panasonic and Fujifilm, but can you be a little less obviously biased? Like it or not you guys hold a lot of sway over your readers, they take what you write as gospel, I have already been told countless times how much more engaging the G7X is over the RX100 III by people who have never used either...
Still no word, despite visiting and reporting on the Sony booth, from DPR about the prototype lenses announced and previewed at photokina? No I supposed that would go against what DPR believe in.
pseudobreccia: Why would anyone want the Leica X when the Fuji X100S is on the market?
For people who don't like X-Trans?
mcshan: Did I miss something? Will the same EVFs that fit the X2 and X Vario work on this model?
Is this merely an X3/X-E with a faster lens? Either way I like both and am glad to see the X series (non zoom) didn't die at X1 and X2.
Thanks to all.
Takes the EVF from the Leica T.
Impulses: Sony's QX concept as it exists today hasn't exactly caught fire with consumers, but I think enthusiasts would be a lot more interested in it if they made slimmer models with prime lenses instead of zooms... 1" sensor + pancake 35mm or 50mm or both, something with RX100 IQ but cheaper and easy to pocket alongside a phone, what's not to like? Stacking a zoom on just makes it unwieldy. Maybe Olympus will pick up the ball here, MFT sensor with something like the Pana 20 or 14 on it, easy to pocket and easy to slap on any phone.
QX1 you can put any lens you like on there.