rxbot: Well it is official now, no X trans sensor, does have aa filter and priced right with the 16-50. This camera should do well . APS-C sensor with up to date processing engine For those that do not require a viewfinder this camera offers small package with big sensor at right price. Should shake up the market. What optical finder would go on the hotshoe to use with 27mm lens?
Olympus VF-1 would go pretty well on there. It's 'designed' for 35mm equiv, but it's a bit tight for that anyway, but is supposed to be about perfect for the Panasonic 20mm.
Isn't the X-M1 $799 with 16-50mm? Wouldn't that make it $200 cheaper? Or did you mean compared to body only it is $100 cheaper?
mr_landscape: Funny news from Leica, as always. 1/1.7: stone-age and considering their crazy price...
@ R Butler - Don't forget Pentax with their enthusiast compacts and mirrorless Q7 which was a sensor size upgrade over the Q and Q10.
sdribetahi: Jesus, what is up with Leica and viewfinders and lcd's from 2006? They must have a giant warehouse of 200k viewfinders they are determined to get ride of, now matter how outdated they become.
So that would be the viewfinder from the identical and recently released LF1 then? Or is it the one from the just announced Sony A3000. If you would like to show me another compact that fits in your pocket with a better built in EVF I would happily buy it.
Eagerly awaiting your reply for my next camera purchase.
Andrew Butterfield: Leica has done this with Panasonic cameras for quite a while now so it must pay off for them. This is in no way like one of Hasselblad's horrors. And since the Panasonic versions have a Leica branded lens, it seems reasonable that the Leica versions should have a Leica branded body.But actually this one looks rather different to the donor LF1. I like it. And it's not that much more money if you take the bundle into account. For somebody who wants something a little less run of the mill, with a decent camera to boot, good luck to 'em.
@ HowaboutRAW - He means the actual 'look' of it, not any function of it.
Greg VdB: I just spent a few minutes comparing product shots of the Pana and the Leica. It's like identical twins: side-by-side there are a some slight differences, but if you see one by itself it's impossible to tell which is which. Buy the Panasonic (for half the price?), stick a red dot on it, et voila! Just to say that Pana did a great job with the original design, also estheatically, and buying the Leica is a sign of a high cash over intelligence ratio...
@ Greg VdB - Absolutely agree. That said, seeing these things on the used market around the place suggests that I am probably not that far off. But still, we are talking about a pretty minor $70 difference (assuming you have use for a copy of Lightroom).
Leica Panasonics also tend to have nicer colours than the Panasonic version (not that that would sway me either way).
Gosh camera folk are so pragmatic! It's all about the stats and figures.
To be fair previous rebranded panasonic Leicas have been far from 'special', but this actually looks pretty nice, add that to the fact it doesn't cost all that much more (once you factor in a copy of Lightroom) and this starts to look pretty good actually.
I would prefer to pay a little more and get a watch that I like the styling of or a pair of shoes or shirt or car or whatever. So long as the difference is 'stupid' expensive and isn't 'just' a badge.
Hell I'd have a hassy stellar if it was based on a MkII RX100 and was $999.
mpgxsvcd: I wish Leica would remake the LX7. That is a great camera.
Was also that G-Star special version for a cool $1300! Whatever G-Star is?!
@ Greg VdB - So that by your own calculations is only a $70 premium... Probably be worth $150-200 more at resale... seems worth it to me.
My thoughts exactly. Usually they are a Panasonic with a Leica badge at twice the price. This actually has it's own 'look' (even though underneath it's the same), comes bundled with better SW (LR) and isn't stupid amount more. The fact that the LF1 is a fairly unique camera with built in EVF as a doner doesn't urt either.
It's a slightly more luxo LF1 at a bit higher price... Not everything has to be about corner sharpness + bokeh to $$ ratio.
mpgxsvcd: I can't fathom anyone buying this camera for $699 when the much better Panasonic LX7 has sold for $275 brand new in the past and is at $328 right now.
I can't fathom why you would buy a LX7 when you can buy a bicycle?
It's called a D-Lux 6
@ Kimchiflower - But this isn't for 'Leica enthusiasts', it for people who want a compact camera and the brand (mostly). I could do with a copy of LR.
Yeah but people who a brand conscious and not necessarily 'camera people' do pay more, even second hand. Check how much the other basic (C-lux) rebadge Leicas go for even when they are quite old - people do believe it or not, pay for the badge.
I have been eyeing the LF1 but will probably get this instead. NEVER thought I would say that...
Does look pretty nice too...
Well in this particular case I disagree.
Leica Panasonic rebadges are always identical. This is $699 and the Panasonic is $499. This includes Lightroom and will have much better resale - This is (for once) actually a better buy.
Hubertus Bigend: Rumors about the X-A1 have already been posted in May, followed by correct description (entry-level, no-viewfinder, no-x-trans-sensor) in July, on the usual rumor sites. dpreview doesn't do itself a favor by suddenly starting to post old news as "have hit the web today". Especially if there's nothing at all about a load of even more interesting rumors which keep being published elsewhere, some people already mentioned the E-M1, and the more so since even the regular previews and reviews usually are too late to still be interesting for enthusiasts and early adopters, people who used to regard dpreview high for the timeliness of their reports in its early years.
In one instance it was accidentally posted on the official site and the other is 'claims' of being leaked (and probably were but there are plenty if others that aren't) DPR tends to post on the ones that have been a clear leak from an official source. In the end, DPR can post whatever the hell they want, but I agree with their methods of only publishing real leaks.
stuartgolden: This is CLEARLY a Photoshop - take a peek: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3543560
Yes, photoshopped and then put on the Fujifilm website... Must be fake!
MarshallG: My first camera was a Fujica SLR, which I bought in 1978 for $120. Fuji has been a low-end camera maker for a very long time, and I think it's fantastic that they've busted out with cameras that beat the offerings of Canon/Nikon/Olympus/Sony/Leica. In this day and age, it's a very impressive feat of engineering and understanding the customer. I'd love to buy a cost-reduced Fuji that keeps enough of the enthusiast features for serious photography. This model might do, if they offer some kind of viewfinder option.
They do, wow! Put a viewfinder in the hotshoe and off you trot. Hell you don't even have to buy a Fujifilm branded one - Amazing!
newe: Looks aweful...would prefer Nikon D400
Yeah you said it! I was definitely comparing this to the D400 as well, they are SO similar, I mean if only Fujifilm would stop wasting resources on making this crap so that Nikon can build the D400 instead! Bloody Fuji.
Alexis D: No x-tran? Forget it. Fuji is good only impressive because of that sensor.
Yeah because the X100 was really crap. Also their lenses and handling are crap.