topstuff: Anytime now someone will be along comparing this to the Olympus EM-1.
@ agentul - Bahahahaha! Yeah ok man, keep believing that... Olympus users are the most gullible around ;)
silentstorm: And I thought Phase One is pretty strict with a full frame medium format 6x7 sensor
Anyway, it looks like a downgrade to me, 14bit colour? Used to be 16bit with very wide colour gamut & DR. The only thing it boosts is "low noise"
Guess economics took its toll on this one as well
@ silentstorm - yes, but 6x7 and 645 are different things. Usually they are 645, but this is slightly smaller, like the (rather confusingly) Pentax 645D. It is about a 1.3x crop to standard 645. 6x7 is bigger again and I am not personally aware of a digital version of 6x7.
Juandante: The next format Sony is going to take down. A10 in MF ?
Well I think they sell more A7's and A7R's in a day than Leica has sold M240's since launch.... The only other FF sans-mirror ILC.
jonny1976: ccd is twhy a medium format is unbeleiveble even compared to any ff camera at base iso...im sure the mformata will lose this magic and resemble a d800 with just more pixel.stupid move
MF looks like MF because it's MF, nothing to do with CCD or CMOS, FILM MF also looks like MF after all.
abortabort: Two points that I think have been missed, not only here but in the A7 review as well:
1) Why do you set C1 or C2 as focus magnifier? C2 is clunky to get to (as you say) and C1 is too close to the shutter button. After extensive playing with different settings I now do not have a 'focus magnifier' button at all! You simply don't need it on the A7/R. Why? I shoot a variety of lens types on the A7, this includes native lenses, A-Mount lenses (LA-EA4), EF Mount lenses (with Metabones adapter), MD mount and m42 mount. Now because I shoot a number of different lenses which have differing capabilities in AF on the A7, from very good (native and A-Mount) to very poor (EF mount) to non-existent (MD and m42 etc) I wanted a configuration that worked for all lens types, rather than reconfiguring for manual and AF lenses every time.... TBC
... of course it doesn't work on all subjects, but even very fine details show up as they 'fizz' in and out of being rendered or skipped on the display. Even works well for most 'soft wide open' lenses as the aliasing is still in effect well enough when downscaling from 24MP to 0.8MP for the viewfinder, even if the lens is really only resolving 6MP - I suggest everyone try it if you don't already!
PS - Hot tip, leave display quality on 'standard' as 'high' seems to smooth the effect more (higher sensor readout maybe?) and therefore becomes less visible and less effective.
3) (yeah yeah I said two) is that people put focus peaking on on these cameras and then just toggle between different 'strengths' to suit the lens they are shooting with and what they are shooting. I found peaking rather useless as mentioned above, so I turned it off. What I DID find though is that once off I could see what the viewfinder is doing and what was previously getting covered up by 'peaking highlights' and that is that there is strong aliasing between the sensor downsampling to the EVF resolution that only occurs on very sharply focussed edges, it produces a visible 'nailed focus' highlight, without having to put ugly and distracting highlights over my composition, it is also much much much more accurate than any of the peaking modes and only shows what is absolutely, critically in focus! It works brilliantly and I can nail focus on most subjects very easily with no peaking and no magnified view, just by looking for that aliasing....
2) Is that this is an article that discusses third party lenses, but seems to only focus on older completely MF lenses. I would think an article like this should be a bit more comprehensive, so wanted to add an important experience with some 'other' third party options, namely EF mount lenses with Metabones adapter.
One of DPR's criticisms is the focus magnifier using third party lenses, so I would like to point out that EF lenses that have distance encoding (most of them) support auto magnification when you turn the focus ring, so no '2-press' required, turn the focus ring and it automatically zooms in. It also supports focus distance scales on screen as well as FL indicator when using zoom lenses. These three things make a huge difference to using third party lenses on the A7/R....
So what do I do instead of focus magnify? Simple really, I set the middle button (the one in the centre of the 4 way navigator) to 'Focus Settings', I then have C1 set to AF/MF Toggle. The really cool thing about this is that or one, when in AF mode using an AF lens pressing this button allows me to quickly move AF points using the navigating buttons, turning the dial on the other hand allows me to change AF modes, from wide area, to spot etc.
But where it gets even better is that when in MF mode that same button automatically becomes focus magnifier! So no wasted button that has no function when in AF mode, it switches automatically depending on what lens you are using and whether you are in AF or MF modes - This is very very handy and in a FAR better position than the C1 and C2 buttons as you can very quickly access the other relevant features to pressing the button, such as moving the magnify box or changing focus points, plus no chance of slipping on the shutter half-press :)...
Two points that I think have been missed, not only here but in the A7 review as well:
abortabort: Two points:
1) Who says this has anything to do with iOS? I know DPR like to bury their heads in the sand as they wait for iOS as a platform to mature enough to run proper photo editing apps that there are already tablets that run full LR, PS etc which get completely ignored because there is a new app that can apply some crappy filters to crappy JPEGs. 2) But since when,have you been able to buy apps or subscriptions through a third party website? I may be wrong but this does not seem like it is iOS related to me.
@ Basalite - Maybe, but Metro is considered 'mobile'. However some other comments have suggested that this is for the cloud component which could work out to be for iOS, so makes my comments partially redundant. Still don't understand why DPR refuses to accept that there are already great Photographer tools on the market and that we should all patiently wait for iOS to catch up.
@ iammatrix - A dubious claim if ever I saw one, so you think Android and iOS are going to replace Windows, the largest installed user base in the world? Yeah no, not any time soon. Windows tablets have been around far longer than either of those systems and will continue to be for a long time. I think what you are referring to is Windows RT, which may very well happen, but mostly because there is little need for such a system with low power Atom,processors available that don't limit your application choices.
Bill Rees: I've been a Mac user for quite awhile now. My first, OS X machine was an original 12" PowerBook G4 and I currently have a 2011 15" MacBook Pro but I'm about to switch back to Windows.
The big gap in the Mac lineup is the jump from the iMac to the MacPro with no reasonably priced desktop in between. Macs are great but I think Windows 8.1 is just as capable. I use both every day and you can run Lightroom and Premiere Pro on either OS.
The Surface Pro is my ultra-portable of choice.
Here here, yet DPR completely ignore the Surface Pro as a tool for photographers... But lots of coverage of the iPad...
abortabort: Cool article, but like I commented on Connect a while back with articles on the iPad Air release, but not a single mention of the Surface Pro 2 released around the same time. You guys (well connect) talk a lot about weak iPad 'photo apps', but don't look at more serious photography tools as the Surface Pro 2?
These tablets are by far the best 'photographers tablets' ever created and not a peep from you guys? I am a Mac user from wayyyyy back, still are my main workhorse machines, but a fully fledged i5 tablet with 4-8GB RAM, fast storage, 1080p IPS displays, capable of running proper pro editing applications and the kicker - Wacom digitiser making these a mini-cintiq for the road... This type of machine is the ultimate photographers companion device for editing on the road (same specs as the air, about the same size/weight, but better screen, touch screen and digitiser).
Hi David, sorry I wasn't talking in comparison to the MBA, the Surface and MBA are very similar machines internally and really only their form factor is different. I was raising concern over the huge pile of coverage DPR and Connect do on the iPad, but nothing on the Surface Pro, which for photographers would be a far more useful tool, like your MBA is - But with added Wacom support and a better display (both of which are very important to photography tasks).
justin23: A lot of people bash apple macbooks, but seriously, only in the last year have laptops been available that matched some of the specs of the macbooks especially the resolution of the 15" pro retina. And its not like these new laptops are cheaper anyway.
Just searched on the Fujitsu lifebook whic looks great buts its the same price as a similarly specced macbook (in Australia), however it is new and looks good. ish it was an option 2+ years ago when the only laptop with greater than a 1920X1080 screen was made by apple.
@ Just a Photographer - I don't know about you, but I have been using Macs a longggg time and ever since the launch of 'apps' on iOS (then iPhone OS) they have been going backwards, to the point of making them SO user friendly that you can't use them! (ok exaggeration), but stop with the uber friendliness of them, they can be simple and advanced... But Apple just want them to be simple.
Cool article, but like I commented on Connect a while back with articles on the iPad Air release, but not a single mention of the Surface Pro 2 released around the same time. You guys (well connect) talk a lot about weak iPad 'photo apps', but don't look at more serious photography tools as the Surface Pro 2?
Oh and Macs have had 1920 x 1200 displays for ages as well, I have an old work 17" that has a 1920 x 1200 display from at least 4 years ago. However my current work 13" rMBP is a 2.5K display.
Because text is the same size on a 'retina' Mac as any similar other mac, just your images, videos etc are finer detailed. More importantly they are a very good IPS panel, which until pretty recently were a bit of a rarity in ANY laptops (they were around though, I had a couple of Thinkpad workstation laptops that had them and were great, but definitely NOT cheap either). 1920 x 1080/1200 on a PC can be a bit awkward, but certainly can be fixed to be reasonably comfortable with the built in text zoom abilities. Though LR everything is still tiny on my editing tablet.
470g seems kind of light for the Sigmotus, can you guys confirm that it feels lighter than say the 35mm f1.4 Art? Really looking forward to this lens :)
vladimir vanek: Oh yeah, Samsung, of course! For those who want to look like a pro and argue who has more megapixels... I would write the max. zoom with even bigger numbers on the lens and so that it is visible when holding the camera by any of the grips. Oh, and what about putting something like "DUAL GRIP" on the box? See? There are couple of marketing flaws to be updated...
DUAL GRIP in big letters running along both grips! Yeah that would make this at least 14% more awesome and give it like a million kudos points :P