I wonder if this will mean we see a Sigma DN Art lens based on this sometime soon?
Andrew Butterfield: Interesting to have a 21mm lens on a compact camera.
I would be quite interested in an RX100 with a 16-35mm equivalent lens.
Mescalamba: Looks great.. Reminds me a bit of old Digilux from Leica. Or Hasselblad "improved" NEX camera. Minus that tastelessness..
Fully articulated LCD would be nice tho.. at least it moves a bit..
Actually reminds me of the 'melted plastic' look of the NX100, but with leatherette disguise. But the result actually isn't bad.
dosdan: I suppose some will be interested in upgrading to FF. I'm not.
Does this mean that Pentax users will soon have to chant the "You're not a serious photographer unless you're using FF" mantra?
Assuming it has no AA 36MP sensor, in crop mode it should perform like a K-5 IIs, no slouch of a camera with the option of FF when you need it.
photog4u: Last chance to vote people cuz if Sony wins this thing instead of Nikon, many here at DPR will be spending the weekend sitting Shiva :)
Maybe there is something to what different people say in forums though, I mean where is the A7S review that was being done alongside the GH4? Where is the A77 II review? A7 II? A5100? What about NX1? X100T?
They manage to do timely reviews of Canon, Nikon and Panasonic, but can't be bothered with others? And don't give me that popularity contest, the A77 II and NX1 scored about the same in readers polls as the 7D MkII and the A7S scored much higher than it, A7 II topped its category and is likely to come out on top, equal or very close to top overall. What review do we get? GM5.
hotdog321: Poll buttons don't work for Firefox 35. I wonder how useful a poll is that does not support major browsers.
They are drag and drop?
haroldo: Smartphones? i'd say Mismanagement and Sony. Wake up, Canon!
@ Dr Jon - Minolta had APS-C systems and 135 in the latter days of film and lots of years in M mount plus supporting Leica with R mount. Things aren't any different now really.
The Squire: Should be reworded:
"Other people making better cameras than us is cited as a big cause for the slowdown in sales..."
Camera-phones have been around a long time now. Can't keep using that excuse. And in the mean time other companies have grown their camera division sales.
SO, what's the real problem Canon?
" they at least make profits unlike most of the competition, most importantly Sony which is loosing money in a huge amounts."
Sony is losing money, funnily enough, because of their smartphone business. Their camera business makes a healthy profit.
tbcass: Didn't include the Sony A77ii so I didn't vote.
It did pretty well against the 7D MkII, its nearest competition, which I would say is a fair showing.
MarshallG: You didn't include the Canon 7D Mark II, so I didn't vote.
It was already weeded out in the first round where it WAS included.
Fogsprig: I've got E-M10. Of course, I gave it my vote BUT the real best product of 2014 is A7S (absent in polls, to my surprise). P.S. You guys are weird in that A7II craze.
A7S did surprisingly well for a niche camera, much better than other niche cameras such as 7D II. It probably doesn't help that the MP wars are still on for young and old and that people like the one above read an article somewhere and declare themselves a subject matter expert.
alcaher: I think with todays technology , you cant go wrong with any of these cameras. FF dslr have stollen the show all this years... Just hope this is the year of great Aps-c, specially in nikon (d400). 7d2 didnt get the recognition on the poll results it deserves but it a wonderful tool.A department that leaves alot to be desire with nikon is Dx lenses.Nikon: wake up with the Dx this year!!... Please
What does it deserve? Are you telling readers that they are somehow wrong, that what interests you is what should have won? Don't participate in polls if you are going to assume the outcome is wrong if it isn't what you voted for, you can do your own poll by yourself the outcome will be always be 100% accurate ;)
quezra: I'm still surprised the A7ii beat the D750. It is far more of an incremental upgrade to its predecessor (A7) than D750 is (to D700).
And this condensed all-in-one vote doesn't make much sense since all these products are good, yet each suited to completely different tasks or types of photographer.
Disagree. While both are truly excellent cameras in their own right. The D750 is a culmination product (I was going to say "parts bin special" but that sounds derogatory and it is about the sum of its parts that makes it so appealing) whereby they have put together features from a broad range of their current products into one camera that appeals a bit to everyone. It is part D610 and part D810 with a tilt screen thrown in for measure. For many this makes it the perfect blend of the two for lots of reasons... But does not in any way make it particularly special or innovative. It is a blend, like for those who want a hot chocolate but also want a coffee, making a mocha is innovation, but certainly the outcome is pretty great!
A7 II on the other hand has a couple of interesting things going for it, one is that it is the first E-Mount with IBIS and it is the first FF camera with 5-axis IBIS and the first FF camera that can use it's IBIS for video and use it with adapted lenses. Further to this it is partly the 'coming of age' of the A7 full frame mirrorless concept, where the first products were just that, first products, the A7 II is a far more complete product than the first iteration (as much as I liked them) this works from a consumer mindset that the 'innovation' in the original is now available in a much more mature product, to the point that that innovation is part of that product, rather than the curiosity that was the original A7.
Mike FL: Almost forget, Canon said: "ML in the future" a while ago.
Plus Canon showed us a sensor which can "see" things in almost total darkness some times ago.
So did Sony, but they actually released it as an actual product that you can actually buy, rather than just talking about it.
pwilly: There are more Canon users, but with no Canon cameras in the chase, Sony won because the A7ii is the best place to mount those wonderful Canon lenses.
"Perhaps the 7D2 could have been at least been on the same list for high end ILC" it was...
The poll was actually a fairly close run race, with the D810, D750, X-T1 and A7 II all being fairly close for the top spot.
The 'built for speed' cameras including the 7D II, A77 II and NX1 were also fairly close with a relatively small percentage of votes at around 5-6% each with 7D II top, closely followed by A77 II and NX1 lagging behind.
The video / hybrid cameras of the A7S and GH4 clocked somewhere in between with about 10% of the votes each.
So this helps illustrate the spread of interest among camera niches, where more niche cameras tend to get less votes because they aren't as popular, thus why they are 'niche'. It would also seem, for all the claims of video not being important, that the hybrids are more popular than the APS-C speed cameras.
PhotoKhan: I would vote but I am too busy with MY favorite 2014 product, the Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM.
It is probably the most anticipated lens in Canon realm for over 5 years, one that has received extremely positive in-depth reviews in places like TDP, Photozone.DE and a "becomes a reality" short notice on DPR.
That's because the old one was not exactly class leading. Sony updated theirs and Nikon as well and barely a sniff of information on either...
PerL: I would say that this list show how much DPReviews members differs from the general market and what actually sells.
"Canon 5D3 owned by 1903Canon 7D owned by 1856Olympus OM-D E-M5: owned by 1656Nikon D800 owned by 1527Nikon D7100 owned by 1366Sony A7R owned by 606Sony A6000 owned by 938"
So the only camera here that is eligible for this poll has at least half the ownership (in less than a year of availability, compared to say 7D that has been on the market 5 years+ and previous poll winner E-M5 at 3 years) then the most popular models here and you wonder why it was voted for so much? Makes sense...
Rob Sims: All worthy winners, although with Sony top for two categories, and runner up for a third, I'm curious how this comments section will pan out.
Just imagine the shock horror if the Sony/Zeiss 55/1.8 had made it into the lens list, the interwebs could have exploded (thankfully that was a 2013 lens!)
Despite all the complaints about the constant stream of cameras, Sony plays seriously in more categories than anyone else, which also partly explains why they 'seem' to have a new camera every week.
happypoppeye: So it's a Gm1 with articulating screen ...for less then the Gm1. Sounds good to me.
Exactly what I was thinking. Don't forget the flash as well (though extremely limited) but main thing is GM1 can now do waist level shooting for less than the current GM1... Nice!
steelhead3: Apple uses a Sony camera module
Dude take your meds, you'll get laid one day... it's ok!