Tons o Glass 0 Class: What would you rather shoot, Barney: this or the Leica Q?
Sony's UI is maddening? What controls in particular? I have been playing with the RX100 IV and yes, it is a pain, especially for video with MF. However the RX10 etc isn't bad at all IMHO and this seems quite similar. Basically it adds direct access to the things that I find frustrating on the RX100, such as focus mode switch, aperture and focus are dedicated (don't share a control ring), has two control wheels on the back (shutter and ISO) and if it can use 'focus settings' on the centre button it has access to everything I could need (especially as it doesn't have particularly complex video).
So I am curious as to which controls are particularly limiting for you Barney?
Terry Cioni: What I am interested in is how the new RX1RII compares auto focus wise to the previous RX1R and to Leica Q. Barney, as a thoughtful reviewer I would be interested in your thoughts.
Albeit AF is only part of the package but an important part..
Excellent samples and thank you for posting them.
Barney - Can you assign the centre button to 'focus settings'?
rkny: Was hoping to see a dramatic improvement in low light noise vs the RX1. It does seem to have improved, in the underexposed areas of processed files, but not dramatically. I'm still seeing sizable grain/noise and even a few hot pixels that my RX1 doesn't display.
At 1:1 pixel size I doubt you would, but have you tried comparing both at 24MP?
vidarnm: Very fond of my RX1 and really tempted by the mk2. Been playing around with these raw-files and they sure look really great. Rumors on the AF performance sound promising, but then there is the battery issue... Too bad they did´t improve that.
Power bank can charge it while carrying around in a bag and even while using it. Obviously bigger battery would be nice, but for the size.
Someone should develop a battery plate that goes on the bottom that is basically all battery, offering about 4x the standard battery.
ThatCamFan: My interest died because of the megapixel count, a 16-24mp rx1 with the af improved would of been a must have for me.
Being a fixed lens camera I think it is quite good 'future proofing' that it has so many MP. It also enables crop modes with very reasonable resolution still, again a real plus for a fixed prime camera.
marc petzold: I'm quite wondering what Sony would release as the cat out of the bag into Fall/Winter 2016 season when the A7R III would come out...maybe. :-)
I have to admit, I have the RII for everything BUT the 42MP.
brendon1000: Very happy Sony updated my camera. Though I still haven't bothered with uncompressed raw yet as the file sizes are too big. But I like using Canon lenses on my camera.
The lenses do fail from time to time but when it works it focuses very fast. Even indoors
If it is anything like the A7R II, try using it in AF-C rather than AF-S, even for static subjects I find this the fastest and most consistent focus method for adapted lenses.
J Alan Paul: How are they getting that kind of quality out of the ISO 8000 images? I swear my A7ii with the old and new firmware doesn't look that good at ISO 1000. I've pushed a few files up to 3200 and 4000, but all I get are smeared details and ugly noise patterns.
I'm shooting in raw, processing in Lightroom CC2015 and Photoshop CC2015.
Am I missing something?
My D600's files hold up much better at 6400 than my A7ii does at 3200. I love this camera but I've learned that I can't shoot it that high. I'm trying to justify leaving nikon for Sony, but I consistently get better images out of my Nikon. It's a bummer because of how much I enjoy having the Sony with me at all times and not my bulky Nikons.
It doesn't make sense to see those night city images at an ISO that high looking that detailed. Is there something wrong with my camera?
I'm using an la-ea4 with a Minolta 24-50, 28-135, and 70-210. Also have adapted a few of my Nikon lenses to it as well, including my 85 1.8, and Tokina 16-28 2.8.
It is also worth trying a different RAW converter as I feel LR does a terrible job of Sony files in general.
Another thing to note, using the LA-EA4 does lose you about half a stop, but the camera will compensate so exposure is the same (in other words ISO of the sensor will be bumped up about half a stop over what it 'says' it is at).
Also worth noting, for all the ISO-less talk if you are underexposing in order to keep ISO values down that will cause your shots to look worse (noisier) than if you expose them at a higher ISO (and therefore properly). I think you will be surprised what it can do if exposed correctly in terms of noise.
Exactly my thinking, it will be faster than the A7R II in every way I suspect. A 'better' camera? That will depend really on needs. Anyone who thinks the RII is the fastest we are going to get needs to realise this is the resolution model.
JakeB: Just wait a few months for the Fujifilm X-Pro 2 for a fraction of the price.
I even hear rumours the X-Pro 2 will have live view.
Hahaha more sophisticated :P
I don't know why people insist on calling them rangefinders, they are, at best, they are a zone focus camera with viewfinder, but AF, like a Ricoh GR1 or Minolta TC1.
ariot: I think the Q is probably the best camera for increasing their customer base a little.
This will appeal to people currently in the brand, with lenses, I think.
The Q may be, but it is fixed at 28mm, which is not everyone's cup of tea.
GabrielZ: Another week another new Leica, they're really pumping them out lately ! Anyway the loss LV and video recording capabilities in such a camera is perfectly acceptable for a reduction in purchase price, and the more refined shutter is a desirable bonus. But I don't like the replacement of the brass top-plate with an aluminum version. I think that's a step to far for such a traditional (and tank-like) camera. M's should have brass top and bottom plates!
The weight saving is appreciated IMO.
starwolfy: How long will it take to someone to hack the M262 firmware and reassign Liveview function to the WB button ?A bit hard to swallow that Leica can lower the price by 2000usd with the same camera...(or worse...a better one: weight/shutter) with just a crippled firmware O_O
I'm not sold that this quite shutter would work with LV and is the reason it has it (but no LV) while the 240 doesn't (with LV).
RedFox88: Meh. Only 5 lenses and only one of them is high quality.
So if they are not a 'world class leader' then they are simply no good?
GaryJP: So "post focus" basically means taking a still frame from a video focus pull.
Yes. But the lens moves very quickly.
Kabe Luna: Does this work with RAW images?
I doubt it. But even if it did, there are severe limitations in that it uses 4K photo mode (8MP), has a lower bitrate readout from the sensor, uses an electronic rolling shutter.
It is a clever idea and uses existing tech in a new and meaningful way, but until we have global shutters its not really ready for the prime time.
But definitely a technology to keep an eye on.
supeyugin1: I think that Samsung don't understand what they are doing. It's not a TV or a cell phone where you can easily change brands. It's a system where people invested thousands inlenses, and now they need to throw everything away? Samsung is completely nuts!
@ HAR - Honestly you are the only one spreading this rumour and your one 'backup' is that prices haven't fallen in the US. You want everyone to believe your rumour but ignore all others because 'you have a source'. At best your 'source' is someone from Samsung US whose job it is to promote Samsung products (no matter their level). They are not going to say to you, Joe Average, that they are shutting down BEFORE they shut down. It really is as simple as that.
Samsung are not going to design and release new products JUST for the weak US mirrorless market. There is not a competent person on the planet who would believe that.
@ HAR - The same desperate posting from you again. The world is bigger than NY, sorry to let you in on that one.
Maybe they didn't get the memo? Maybe it was their least significant market that they simply forgot? Who knows? Who cares!? Samsung are shutting down their camera business. Do you really really think they are pulling out if everywhere and are going to release new models and new lenses just for selling at B&H in NY?
You have rocks in your head.
Donnie G: I guess the big 2 camera makers really do know the camera business better than the gadget makers after all. One down, two to go. Happy Holidays!
"Cant make any what? IMO Canikon make amazing cameras, they just don't prioritize small over performance"
Yes they make cameras, but who do you think makes that great 'DR beast sensor' in the D7200? Certainly not Nikon. Canon make any that compete with the D7200? No?
Now let's imagine a scenario where Sony, Samsung, Panasonic no longer supply electronics to these 'photographic powerhouses that don't need no stinkin electronics'... That's right we gets whisked off to the dark ages.
Wow a D7200 can produce better DR than any Sony FF, whoopie doo! That doesn't make Nikon great. That makes those who made a great sensor for then great.
Keep putting your clown pants on one leg at a time.
eyeswideshut: Photographic time is measured in decades not years. Anyone remember how long it took Canon to unseat Nikon from the top position?
That kind of determination is perhaps not Samsung's cup of tea.
Apple is a computer company. Apple made software, Pro software, to entice pro users to their system. Apple learned very early on that software was key to the success of the system, when software makers wouldn't make software for their platform they made their own.
However as a software platform Mac is thriving these days with just about everyone supporting it, they have no fundamental need to produce software other than there being a gap in their market / system.