RogerMuss: Seems crazy that all this magnificent craftsmanship that is built to last decades will be obsoleted in a year or so when the next sensor turns up. If Leica made a camera with a sensor module that could be replaced then I'd invest in the system.
'The Ricoh idea was nice but in the end not the same as you bundle sensor and optics forever.'
Except they did an M-Mount module...
wootpile: I like the first 2 images that show how it barely fits inside 2 model hands because of size and probably weight.
Image 3 is the best though. That's a fat body. What's in there? You could fit several nexes in there. of course they haven't but the fat style is a trademark... and they can't just leave it empty - it would weigh too little to be a Leica...
AHA, the answer to why it is so expensive: they filled it up with gunmetal grey inside too
This camera could have been at least 50% smaller, but then I guess it wouldn't be a Leica. At least not the modern style of one.
The depth is very much determined by the flange distance plus the sensor depth and associated mounting, plus the rear LCD. Then you have the VF optics that have to look through the whole body. E-Mount flange distance is much shorter than M mount.
They could have made some parts of the body smaller for sure, but then it wouldn't look like it does nor look much like a Leica M.
So no, it couldn't be much smaller. My M is more blocky than my A7S for sure, but it is not significantly bigger and that is the closest in terms of camera packaging (digital, FF, not mirror box).
bakhtyar kurdi: Now put this camera on a tripod, have three color filters with you, RGB, take 3 shots with each filter, then combine the 3 images to produce a super resolution color picture, so the owners have an limited option to take beautiful color pictures with their monochrome camera, am I right? what do you think?
Have seen people do it with the original monochom.
The Squire: UHS-II card interface? Yey!USB 2.0 wired interface. Boo!
When are we going to see USB 3.0 on cameras, for those of us who prefer a cable rather than popping the card out?
I suspect the problem is that micro USB 3.0 is a really awkward shape. Very wide.
I guess we'll have to wait a couple of years for USB-C before we get faster interfaces to cameras...
USB 2 is still faster than SD cards, so if your only need is to read SD cards through the body as a reader... there is no advantage to USB 3.
Caerolle: Nice little camera! If it doesn't have the awful EVF from the GX7, I would be interested.
Nice to see the hands holding the product have nice nails this time, lol!
It isn't phase sequential like the GX7 or LX100.
jnxr: Has flash, 4k, EVF, large sensor, small size, good lens options, and much more at a very sensible price point.
Isn't this device more of a convergence device compared to the Canon XC10?
NO. It doesn't have a tilty handle nor weigh a tonne, despite being 'compact'.
Rod McD: This lens will be appreciated by photographers whose priorities are for speed, but is perhaps too big and heavy for many Fuji mirror-less users who migrated to the system for a small light kit. At 550gms it's only 30gms lighter than the 55-200mm f3.5-4.8 zoom. With the Australian dollar in free-fall, our local price is probably going to hit $1400. I'll be keeping my CV Apo Lanthar 90/3.5
Perhaps now that Fuji have released their road map's big fast lenses, they will develop some of the smaller sealed lenses that so many people want. A sealed 35/2 is already on the road-map for this year. Hopefully they'll offer similar small lenses in a range something like 16/2.8, 23/2, 55/2 and 85/2.8. All sealed and with an aperture ring please.
RRP in Australia is $1399.
Pitchertaker: Still trying to decide between the Olympus and Sony lens systems to invest in for landscape, perspective, and closeup images.
For my applications are primes a better choice than a zoom?
Should I grab an EM-1 and throw on this new 7-14mm f/2.8 or go with their 12mm f/2.0 & 17mm f/1.8 instead?
Should I go Sony a6000 or A7 with their sole 24mm f/1.8 prime, or would their 18-105 f/4, 10-18 f/4, 16-70 f/4 or 16-35 f/4 do just as well?
Between the Oly 60mm f/2.8 macro and Sony 90mm f/2.8 which is better?
A7 and 28mm f2 is a nicely priced combo.
Pitchertaker: Yes, the AF clutch is the other reason I'd like having these 12mm & 17mm lenses besides the metal bodies. Yes I can get a bit off of an EM1 or EM5MII as well, and the "titanium" EM5MII if I wanted it for same money if I hurried..thought M1's ergonomics are better.
I want to print large so that's my dilemma going Oly. Sony A7 has 24mm f/1.8 and but one 16-35mm in f/4.
'won't find a native one' - wrong, native 25mm f2 Batis or MF Samyang 24mm f1.4.
Hubertus Bigend: The cameras are still missing the ability to use exposure compensation in Manual mode with Auto ISO on (which Fuji just added to their X-T1 by firmware update), and configurable factors for acceptable shutter speeds in Auto ISO, too.
Absolutely right, it is technically TAv mode, however many cameras that have TAv there is no TAv mode on the dial, it is accessed through M 'mode' and setting ISO to Auto. This is why people say auto ISO in Manual.
Sergey Borachev: The next mirrorless lenses, logically, from Sigma should be a 14mm f/2.8 and a 90mm f/2.8. These FLs are great classic ones for both APSC and M43. They should sell really well, since there is hardly anything remotely competitive from the mirrorless camera makers. I realise they are no longer in a normal range and harder to make. I am however happy to pay twice as much and even accept f/3.5, if they are also good performers at max aperture and still compact for their FLs. What are you waiting for, Sigma?
It is very very likely Sigma will release a 14mm as these are all essentially detachable versions of the lenses made for their DP series cameras, of which they have recently announced a DP0Q with 14mm f4, so there is a good chance we will see that for their DN series soon.
88SAL: Reminds me of miyazakis perar lenses. Is it rangefinder coupled?
It is yes.
RStyga: Leica "upgrades" a $7,500 camera with Live View and 3" 921K LCD in 2015? At this rate they might catch up with the rest by 2050, give or take a decade.
Although good adapters are abundant for DSLM cameras, a native M mount camera could put a stop, or at least a brake, to the Leica camera charade...
So there is another camera I can buy that has a monochrome sensor from all these other much more advanced camera manufacturers I take it? Oh yes there is, if you have a lazy $40k for an APS-C red epic monochrome that is. In that way the Leica MM is a bargain.
justmeMN: An optional selfie stick is $1,000.00
Why? Set the focus distance and go.
I can just imagine if it was an integrated feature all the complaints about how it was randomly taking photos every time someone put it up their eye. Having it as a dedicated app with its own settings means that a) you have to deliberately launch the app to use the function b) once you leave the app the settings on your camera remain exactly as they were, as in you don't have to reconfigure a bunch of stuff that you set up for long exposure shooting and finally c) doesn't add another 10 settings to your normal menus when you are only going to use it occasionally.
For niche functions like this, being integrated is not always a great idea. Imagine if every 'app' that we used on a smartphone required us to do a firmware update to get the new app? And if every app was integrated then we had to have every app, function and menu installed at all times.
Apps make sense, just not common on a camera, though Minolta used to do this year's ago with program cards.
aut0maticdan: I think this is very clever and useful. it really demonstrates the benefit of having extensibility via an App Store. I really appreciate having that in my a7s.
Unfortunately, it also highlights how bad Sony is at UX and design. I also don't like that some common features have become a $10 add on. Hopefully all this will improve over time.
Rather a $10 add on than having to buy the next camera model.
Jokica: "If you can remember the e-mail and password you used for the store then good for you, but if you're out in the field and can't get your password right, then good luck to you, buddy. Typing in an e-mail and password on the back of a camera just feels silly anyway and can be downright frustrating.
It is nice that the apps are available anywhere with free Wi-Fi, but downloading anything through PlayMemories onto the camera is a frustrating experience. It would be nice to have the option to download the app to an SD card via a PC or Mac, then install it on the camera the same way firmware updates are installed on a number of cameras. "
Hey, DPR, did you try to download this application before you post this article?
@captura - So this app is more difficult to install than a firmware update? Right, check. And this app costs money that Sony 'steals'? Right, check. And instead of having an extensible 'app' architecture that provides new features to older products, Sony instead should write new firmware for each product they have made for how long after the product was released? 5 years? 10? Yes that will certainly make cameras cheaper and far less 'stealing' going on.
linzdoctor7d: Sony why can't you add remote shutter release work with your Apps instead of this! If I want to use the Nex 5T with the Apps Multiple Exposure, Time Lapse or Multi Shot there is no option in the menu. I must therefore shake the camera by pressing the shutter button.
There is no menu option for wired shutter releases, it doesn't need one. There are also available wireless remotes that connect through the wired socket. Not sure what you need to 'enable' in the menus to use a wired remote for with apps?
Jakub Kubica: Whole "play memories" experience is c*appy at best, free apps should be available for download without stupid account.
Cool, can you show me how I can download free apps for my smartphone without an account?
km25: Think of all the ways that camera companies have been trying to by pass the lonely cable release. Is it because it is too heavy to drag around. Maybe cause of how complex it's usage is. Thank God in heaven that now the hard work of triping the sutter moves closer to auto shutters, shutters that known when it is a good image and the camera takes the picture on it's own. Remotes have there place. This just having the camera peel you a grape.
While I completely agree that shutter releases have their place, I have been in more than one situation where this might be useful. Download it now and it's available in a pinch. Why not after all it is free and utilises the existing hardware in the camera.