So where is Canon's service advisory?
mironv: What a waste of R&D founds if they worked at competing FP lens to Canon DO why o why they bring 300mm not 400mmf4 FP lens
30% shorter, 42% lighter, how is that not desirable? Hell, it went from requiring a tripod collar to not needing one at all and extremely hand holdable. Imagine how much more easily this can be used at zoos or events than the outgoing 300/4 which required excellent support or very fast shutter speeds. This is a very welcome size/weight reduction. The price is *extremely* reasonable as well, all things considered - many were expecting $2500.
Canon's 400/4 DO is $6,500 and weighs four times as much. VERY few people would be interested in that compared to an ultra light/compact $1,999 300/4 VR that countless people have been asking for for years and years now.
30% smaller and 1.5 lbs lighter than the outgoing model, and the worlds lights 300mm F4 prime is hardly a "waste of R&D". It's something that has far exceeded most people's expectations.
Nikon is going to sell truckloads of these.
Pretty crazy that the 5DM3 is still priced anywhere near $3,000. You'd have to be out of your mind to pay that in this environment unless you absolutely needed one for a job or something.
AllOtherNamesTaken: How is "No AF-point linked spot metering" not a Con when the competition has had that feature for at least a decade, even on $400 bodies, yet something extremely subjective such as not having a touch screen listed as a Con? Glaring omissions like this in reviews really make me question the quality of DPR's reviews sometimes.
Thanks Rishi, keep up the good work.
Thanks Dale. It's also missing from the "cons" section of the original 7D review, 5DM2 review, 5DM3 review, 6D review, and several Rebel reviews (eg. T5i), if you are able to update those as well. At least IMHO, it's a very significant omission that many potential customers are not aware of.
BarnET - that is correct, unless you buy a 1-series, you don't get spot metering outside the center. I believe the Nikon D70 of 2004 even had this feature, as do the very entry-level Nikon D5XXX cameras.
lightmatters: There're rumors that Canon would be using Sony sensors in upcoming cameras.I just wonder what is the next thing from Canon will be bashed after the bad DR is fixed.
Using your ISO example, Canon doesn't even make the top 10 with any camera, let alone their $7,000 1DX. We agree that DXO doesn't tell the whole story (which is why we see $400 cameras ahead of the 1DX, even though they are still superior in some areas like DR - we agree there), but their comment about always using the best sensors available in their cameras is perhaps the most ridiculous statement I have heard in a long while regarding anything camera related. That is all I am pointing out - not looking to debate Nikon vs Canon, but to highlight the delusional comments Canon is making in spite of measurable, objective, data.
How is "No AF-point linked spot metering" not a Con when the competition has had that feature for at least a decade, even on $400 bodies, yet something extremely subjective such as not having a touch screen listed as a Con? Glaring omissions like this in reviews really make me question the quality of DPR's reviews sometimes.
Canon also said the following, in their review with DPR, which is absolutely false and equally hilarious:
"We select the best sensor, whoever the manufacturer is. That’s our policy."
Yet for some reason one must scroll past #30, past some barely $400 DSLRs, to even see the name "Canon" appear on the DXO sensor ratings, and it's their $7,000 flagship. I know, I Know, DXO doesn't tell the whole story, but selecting the best sensor, regardless of manufacturer? LOL. Until that "we're the best because we say so" mindset changes, don't expect much for sensor improvements.
Antony John: Any camera manufacturer that releases new lenses and puts pressure on other companies to do the same is to be applauded.Now if only Nikon would update their 400mm F4 ...
The Canon 400/4 is $7,000. If Nikon did come out with one, it would be every bit as unaffordable for 99% of photographers as the rest of the super teles. Might as well grab the 500/4 at that point. A 400/5.6 would be better received IMO, those are only $1350.
Pixel Pooper: People whining about no AF, this lens is not for you. A good MF shooter should be more accurate than any AF system.
The D810/D4S certainly have no trouble nailing 1.4 AF, and a lot faster than any MF shooter could. And it can compensate for subject movement instantly. I don't think anyone would turn down the option of AF on these lenses...
LOL...Manfrotto announces....a KATA bag!
There's also no chest strap, which makes them less than ideal for long trips.
Look into F-Stop bags for the best of the best.
AllOtherNamesTaken: All that and not a word about autofocus, perhaps the D810's most significant improvement? Did I miss something?
"it's widely regarded as having one of the worst performing autofocus in recent memory" Haha is that some sort of joke? Other than a small number of affected users with early serials, the D800/E already had one of the best AF systems in the segment, with better low light acquisition and tracking than a 5DM3. In fact I know a few people who ditched their 5DM3's specifically for the D800's low light AF ability for weddings. The fact that the D810 has improved on this is quite amazing.
I'll be curious to read your findings, especially with so many people, including other respected reviewers, noting huge improvements in general speed, lock on, confidence, accuracy, lack of focus chatter, etc. In fact I've yet to read a single review or user report that hasn't said it is vastly improved. A wedding is a perfect torture test though, and I will be curious to see the outcome. Thanks for the reply!
It definitely has, all reports including other credible reviews show the AF to be nothing less than astonishingly good. Nearly everyone is reporting they no longer need AF fine tune on any combo, including those with TC's, as well. Looks to be a winner. I was just curious of DPreview's take on it, but I expect it to match everyone else's, which is glowing.
I realize that, but I figured arguably the most important aspect would be at least briefly touched on in such a detailed preview, that went into detail of far smaller features. I was just curious though, I will wait for the review :). Thanks.
All that and not a word about autofocus, perhaps the D810's most significant improvement? Did I miss something?
1/2.3" sensor? Next please.
CIASpook: Ugh...too many crabby people using the internet to voice their malcontent.
Being a current D700 user...I'm eagerly awaiting this camera whereas I took a pass on the D800. I didn't trash the D800. I didn't complain "what is Nikon thinking?" as I realize, I am not THE customer. I am A customer. They do not design cameras around ME. I am not the center of their universe. But, I have the option to participate or not. For me, while I want more resolution, I also have a minimum standard for FPS and I have decided it's 5. Now the D810 is not only at 5, it'll do 7 in a 1.2 crop mode which is still 25mp. Being that in the past 6 months I've gotten into wildlife photography...this makes me pretty damn happy. I don't like crop modes, but since it's still 25mp and not water down to 15, I'm excited. All the other stuff sounds really cool to.
Actually the 7fps is only in 1.5 crop (15MP) with the grip. It will do 6 FPS in 1.2 crop with or without the grip, which is still excellent, but the 7 FPS is DX only.
viking79: Go price how much OLPF glass costs, and quickly see Nikon is saving tons of money not including any AA filter at all. Rough guess is a full frame filter is going to cost $100 US +/-.
Seems like a small upgrade, Nikon must be feeling a lot of pressure from the competition to push it out so soon.
I sincerely doubt Nikon pays anywhere near $100 for a OLPF on a $3000 camera.