How about we just get rid of scores, numbers, and bars altogether? The content of the review is whats important anyway, yet here we have over 200 comments of people bickering over what camera got a higher number in a given category. Scores, stars, percentages...we need to give up the ghost on this stuff. All it does it cause commotion.
un1que: I like it, should be great for environmental portraiture. Still, I’d rather see a 24mm though.
My dilemma is…should I order a D800 or wait for the forthcoming Sony a99???
Why not both?
The resolution is nothing short of astounding. While I'm not too crazy about the muted color, these days it's all too easy to get the palette you want so that's a wash. ISO performance isn't nearly as bad as people have been letting on; talk about hyperbole. This thing crushes the D7000 for resolution all the way up to 1600; check the purple and green fabric to the left of the playing card for the best example, although it certainly is apparent throughout the entire scene. 3200 does indeed look atrocious, however.
Regardless, that is still FOUR stops of usable sensitivity above the base and I don't see how anyone can reasonably complain about that. It's obvious by the recent FF offerings by Nikon and Canon that you either get a body that's biased towards resolution or sensitivity, not both. This Sigma is evidently a resolution-centric camera and it accomplishes that in spades. Feature set seems a bit lacking, but again, not unusable.
Photos and a quick video of the lens^ Gives a good idea of the size, which IMO seems quite reasonable. IS, hypersonic motor, LD glass, weather sealing...it hits all the wickets at a VERY attractive price point. IQ and build quality are still up in the air, but if it delivers the goods then Tamron may have hit another homerun.
Rubenski: I sympathize with the 'other' brands and mostly they offer great value for what they ask but you'll never get the best results. If you can afford it buy the best, you'll feel much better with every shot!
Never say never. Not only is the Sigma 150 macro(either iteration) exclusive to the brand and available to all the major camera systems, it's among the best macros available. That's but one example of many.
grahamdyke: It's a monster, with a monster price to go with it and I'll wager that the IQ will be worse than the pervious 50-150, which I love and have had great results from.
The IQ drops off every time Sigma add OS to an existing lens and then charge twice as much for the privelidge, even if it is not required and does not contain it, as will be the case for Sony and Pentax mount versions.
Suffice to say that you don't know what you're talking about. That only happens to be the case in a small minority of lenses, the new 12-24mm being the only one that comes to mind. The new 17-50, 70-200, 105 & 150 macro os editions all outclass their predecessors in build quality and optics.
Visualiza: DPR is treading dangerous ground with posts like these, and I've seen a select few similar ones in the past. I notice how they don't comment on long rumored products that they themselves eventually preview prior to press release(D800, D4, 5DM3, etc.).
I don't care personally, I just hope it doesn't affect the potential for this site to get exclusive previews when it comes time for press release. I love the in-depth previews here, and I can't imagine that things like this make the companies happy. I say leave the rumors to the rumor sites; they can afford to drop info like this without compromising any relationships.
Nowhere did I say that companies don't want word of mouth buzz floating around about their products; however, an official news/review site like this simply isn't the place for it. I'm a frequent visitor of the rumor sites and think they're a great source of information.
DPR is treading dangerous ground with posts like these, and I've seen a select few similar ones in the past. I notice how they don't comment on long rumored products that they themselves eventually preview prior to press release(D800, D4, 5DM3, etc.).
philo123: So Guys Nikon has put a 36MP FF sensor in the D800 and just a 16MP in the D4 and which model is aimed at the pros? Hmmm.....Smells of marketing hype to me for the prosumer/enthusiast market. Looking at the replies here it looks like a good picture has yet to be taken because we've never had a 36MP sensor. Keep your money in your pockets and buy good glass as that's what really counts.
Conrad, good points on all counts; however, it isn't my intent to dismiss the importance of good glass at all; I just believe that it is a bit silly to dismiss the importance of a body.
@aus_pic_hunter, you seem to forget that a body is more than a sensor. Ergonomics, size & weight, buffer, speed, AF, viewfinder, and several other factors contribute to taking photos as well. I do agree that bodies are the more disposable of the two in the long run; however the same consideration should be given to bodies when determining what sort of work you will be doing.
We need to move on from this old platitude of "lenses are 95%, cameras are 5%." If you ask me, the break-down should be 100% consideration towards bodies and 100% consideration towards lenses. The two are not mutually exclusive and we are no longer in the days where a body was essentially a film holder. There are a whole host of things that go into a body and it's high time we start appreciating and respecting that.
I beg to differ. I hear this "glass is all that matters" sentiment parrotted all too often, and in 2012 it just isn't true anymore. There are plenty of very important considerations in regards to a camera body now, and depending upon your situation it is just as important a purchase as any lens. This tired old rhetoric needs to die. Cameras, lenses, and whatever additional tools a photographer needs to get the job done share equal importance.
More impressive than the tech specs is the PRICE. My goodness, talk about an aggressive entry; I was fully expecting this camera to clock in at above $4000, considering the D4 and 1Dx after all. Bravo Nikon, bravo. If this can at least match the D700 for IQ, it may very well be the last DSLR I ever purchase.
Image samples are nice and crisp. The high ISO macro shot looks to have a rather unconventional noise pattern; however, nothing objectionable and certainly at least as good as the top APS-C cameras available. I will of course wait for detailed reviews and testimonials...but this may be the compact system solution I've been waiting for. Time will tell.
The lack of an AA filter seems to be of great benefit also. The first thing I noticed is that objects in the distance retain at least a recognizable degree of detail. Not so with my cams, I'm tired of taking landscape photos where leaves, shrubbery, and finer objects turn to mush. If this cam is everything we all hope it will be...when Fuji goes FF they're gonna annihilate the market.
Let's be honest though, Nikon had to price this the way they did. With a stellar 85mm 1.4 offering from Sigma, there was really no other choice. I'd bet a dime to a dollar that if there was no 85mm autofocus lens from a third party manufacturer, this would cost ~$800.00 easily. With that being said, thankfully there is competition and a new reasonably priced fast Nikkor.
SonyA77: how could A65 with less features and specs get a "GOLD AWARD" and A77 "Silver Award"? They have the same sensor and IQ! Please explain!
Different classes of camera, of course. You get A77 IQ for less money, that equates to better bang for your buck.
*EDIT*To Barney above: What would you think of just doing away with the award system completely? It's a double edged sword IMO, because as we can see here, there will be people who never bother to look at the content of the review(which is of course what matters), and will instead focus on an a score or an award.
It's a rather silly suggestion I know, but it seems that we got to that point a long time ago.
Visualiza: ISO 800...one would think that this would shut the naysayers up(about noise at least), but something tells me they'll be singing the same tune 'til kingdom come.
Anyway, I was skeptical at first but I believe what my eyes see, and right now it's looking pretty good.
*YAWN* I sure am getting tired of seeing all these negative replies that lack any sort of substance. I'll call that bluff, prove it. While you're at it, replicate all of the higher ISO results in this gallery with your TX10.
Put up or shut-up. You may have already decided you don't like the camera...good for you, and the legions of other know-it-alls who jump to conclusions. Let those of us who like to keep an open mind observe in peace, thanks.
Say what you want about DoF, lens selection, camera size and the like, but I think with the high ISO examples we've seen in this gallery, we can bury the hatchet on that argument at the very least.
Stellar for 6400.
Sharp, and full of nice detail. I think Nikon is onto something, time to give credit where credit is due.
ISO 800...one would think that this would shut the naysayers up(about noise at least), but something tells me they'll be singing the same tune 'til kingdom come.
This photo alone warrants giving this camera a second look. A serious second look.