Jurka: Yeah, but still without exposure compensation.
(Unless you jailbreak and use CameraTweak, of course. I've recently posted a review of the now-iOS7-compliant CameraTweak 2 to http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1708305 . I highly recommend that tweak if you don;t want to use third-party apps.)
For example, with the iPhone, which lacks manual focus (or, at least, forced focus to infinity), there are some cases when it's simply impossible to properly underexpose a shot to make as good a HDR stitch as possible.
For example, where would you spot meter in the following shot? (Here, I assume using the stock Camera app and not a third-party one. For third-party apps, it's possible to use separate focus and exposure points.)
On the Sun? Then, you'll get a severely defocussed image:
Again, this isn't an issue if you use third-party apps. I just hate switching between third-party apps and the stock Camera app in iOS for a very simple reason: the former can't make native pano or native semi-HDR shots, unlike the stock Camera client. This means you need to switch every time you want to shoot pano / semi-HDR.
Yup, spot metering is indeed useful. However, it's far harder (and sometimes downright impossible) to use when you plan to shoot true stitched HDR (and not the semi-HDR offered by almost all handsets, all the iPhones included, with 1.5...2EV added DR only). Then, proper exp. comp., particularly paired with exp. bracketing (which is also missing from the iPhone), is far more usable / faster.
Yup, this sucks - particularly because all the other smartphone OS'es have supported Exp. Comp right from the beginning (for many years).
NOTE: some iOS apps do have "fake" Exp. Comp. I've written a detailed analysis on them at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/exposure-compensation-and-bracketing-bible
ob33315: where is the Iphone 6 ???
You'll need to wait for this September. Absolutely nothing is known of the iPhone 6 yet, other than it is supposed to (also) come with a larger screen.
Camera-wise, I personally don't expect high-end features like 4K video or even OIS. However, it'll still deliver very good IQ.
misolo: Here's something I find puzzling (and slightly irritating): When I consider buying a lens, by far the most important spec is the focal length (and the equivalent focal length with same field of view in 135-format). Why is it so impossibly difficult to find this information for phone cameras? It's as "key" as "key specifications" get. In this case you do find an approximate number if you read the entire review, but in many cases not even that.
It (the oversampler) runs on earlier / cheaper models (incl. iPad 3+'s / iPod touch 5's) too - but at a reduced framerate. Therefore, it's only recommended for shooting semi-static stuff like conferences, preferably from a tripod.
The video bitrate setter tweak runs on everything.
"What's this full-sensor oversampler you are mentioning?"
The jailbreak-only one at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1538193 . See the uppermost update.
- it also works on almost all other camera-equipped iDevices but, as their camera hardware is way slower than that of the 5s, they aren't capable of shooting at anything over 20 fps in oversampled mode.
- only the 5s is capable of 30p full resolution oversampled shooting, but only in good light. In bad light, the framerate drops.
Note that I have developed another open source video recording tweak, "Video Bitrate Configurer" (see http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1710387 ), which allows for quick video mode switching (between stock modes) and configuring. It doesn't allow for enabling full sensor oversampling
"On the other hand it's safe to say that the vast majority of phones these days have an equivalent focal length of somewhere around 28-30mm, so no matter what you get it's always gonna be a wide-angle lens. "
Yup, in stills mode, all contemporary high-end smartphones are between 27 and 30mm, with the exception of the iPhone 5c, which, as with the iPhone 5, has a 33mm lens.
In video mode, however, the differences are much more pronounced because of the lack of oversampling in most (but not all - see Nokia 808 / 1020) smartphones and/or trying to implement image stabilization electronically (except for the Nokia 1020 / 92x, LG G2 and HTC One). On ALL iPhones, the Samsung GS4, the Note 3 etc. the video FoV is far lower because of this - between 36 and 42mm. That is, if one needs WA in video mode as well, he/she shouldn't get any iPhones. The solutions to fix this either involve IQ-degrading external lens adapters or my full sensor oversampler, which only works on the iPhone 5s.
JmaverickPro: Meanwhile over at apple...
"Meanwhile over at apple...... they are working on innovations GS6 and GS7 will copy a la the finger print scanner on home botton."
I wish they became as innovative as they used to be. I love my iPhone 5 now that it's jailbroken and I personally have been able to even develop some absolutely essential tweaks for it (camera bitrate / res / oversampling tweaker, call recorder muting etc.) These were the reasons I hadn't used it as my main phone before the jailbreak came, but used my 808 instead.
I'd very much like to stay with the iPhone, should it still be jailbreakable, but if Apple still don't bother adding OIS / 4K / stereo audio / an, in video mode, much wider lens, I may end up having to switch to Android.
Sonyshine: Nokia need to launch some of their top end camera phones with Android - I would buy one straight away.
Me too. Too bad they went the WP way...
FoToEdge: What is the reason for not installing the full, normal version? Why is the phone crippled intentionally?
Because, then, Microsoft would support their competitors. By using barebones, forked Android, they don't pay a penny to Google.
hip2: So with this, samsung lost the only thing that set them apart... removable batteries.
"When that eventually happens with a non-removable battery phone, it'll need to be refurbished or sent for repair. But who wants to do this in 5 years when you will only want this phone as a spare?"
Exactly. Particularly now that iPhones have become both hard-to-service-manually and to show some major battery problems.
For example, iPhone 5's are infamous for their battery deaths. Also happened to me; fortunately, Apple exchanged the device.
Also, one can't say older iPhones had better batteries. For example, some of my shots I've taken of iPhone 3GS models and their awfully-swollen batteries after three years of operation:
Mach Schnell: Wouldn't it be great if they stopped playing the megapixel game and switched to a high quality 4 megapixel sensor? Imagine the dynamic range improvement possible with 4 times as much light striking each photosite.
A 4 Mpixel sensor would rule out 4K video recording. However, I agree with you if it had a 8 Mpixel sensor.
Nevertheless, the S4 / Note 3 have, IQ-wise, also had pretty good cameras so I do hope the S5 is at least as good.
"For 30-50$ you get a powerbank that can charge the phone (or any other USB device) 3-4 times."
1. It's much more awkward to use a phone connected to a powerbank than just to pop a spare battery in the phone when needed. And the latter is also, in general, far smaller.
2. there are external chargers (for extra cost, of course) - no need to charge spare batteries in the phone if you don't want to.
alexpaynter: I cannot find any mention of sensor size. Does anyone know what it is. The lens sticks out a bit so I am guessing it may be 1/2.3 inches like the Xperia Z2.
I don't really care about the looks as anything I buy will be put in a cover. The replaceable battery is a big plus for me.
I have a nexus 4 at the moment and it downloads youtube extremely slowly. Much more slowly than my old iPhone 4. Is there a reason a google product can not download another google product? I am concerned about buying another Android product.
yousaf: Is it Snapdragon 801 or Snapdragon 805 ?
See below: in H1 2014, it'll stay with 801; later, it'll switch to 805.
They won't even introduce 1080p60 or stereo audio recording to the iPhone 6, let alone 4K, I'm afraid.
binauralbeats: Don't need 4k in a smart phone. I'd rather pay much less ($350) and get a nexus 5.
"You cold have 4:2:2 at 1080P, more efficient."
Show me a consumer phone that records 1080p at 4:2:2 and not 4:2:0.
"4K is an insult to consumers. Well, maybe they deserve it."
Sorry, but this is utter BS. Again: read the Note 3 review here at DPR Connect.
Michael Ma: From a camera perspective it's a definite upgrade.
Differences from the S4 & Note 3:-Bigger sensor (higher resolution, good for well lit situations but unfortunately more megapixels which negates any low light performance gained)-Phase detection focus (At first I thought it was unnecessary but this is a nice and crucial feature because of the bigger sensor and more potential for OOF shots)-Selective focus (nice feature...but only good for closeup shots since everything in medium distance is in focus)-HDR mode for video (this exists on the note 3, maybe even on the S4, but samsung seemed to emphasize this...maybe something more to this)
Probably no RAW or manual mode due to restrictions in Android OS. It would still be nice. Options are always good. The photography savvy can do a lot in manual mode.No optical image stabilization (OIS). Not surprised. I hear it never worked too well on phones that got this feature a few months back.
"Probably no RAW or manual mode due to restrictions in Android OS."
Google is stated to work on adding RAW to stock Android.
"No optical image stabilization (OIS). Not surprised. I hear it never worked too well on phones that got this feature a few months back."
Absolutely wrong. Look at the 1020 or the G2 - both have excellent OIS.
Zeisschen: Optically it looks more like a 200$ phone to me. Design is not one of Samsungs strengths, more the marketing and corruption of the market.
" Design is not one of Samsungs strengths"
Then, go the Apple way. For me, features like 4K recording, microSD slot etc. are far more important than styling / design.