Damn so many experts post super useful comments here..........
Alphoid: It's funny. The cell phone cameras are getting better and better as main cameras for photographers, while point-and-shoots are getting worse and worse.
Cell phones offer growing sensors, wider apertures, increasingly more programmability and control, and better review. In the meantime, Sony announces a 63x zoom point-and-shoot with an f/3-5.9 lens, and Canon, a D30 with horrible folded optics.
I don't get why someone doesn't make a point-and-shoot with a fixed f/0.95 lens, make it sturdy, and beyond that, make the sensor as large as possible while maintaining form factor.
It has nothing to do with physics, it has to do with companies not wanting to poach on their own products/lenses.
Sonyshine: A fine looking analog/digital camera.
I think it will sell very well to old men.
I somehow think young photographers will stick with their iPhones and Samsung NX cameras.
"This is a photography website, what the average person uses for facebook selfies is irrelevant."
Careful with that word "irrelevant." For one, the person on the other side of that, might just take offense.
thx1138: I think the slow tele end of the zoom range should have been mentioned as a weakness and the rapid drop in aperture. It goes from f/1.8 to f/2 just changing from 28mm to 29mm, which is a joke. To really standout form the first version, it should have been f/4 at tele end, 24mm at wide end, placed more emphasis on improving lens quality as it's clearly soft at the edges and corners of the test scene, had 1/4000 shutter speed, at least allowed monochrome filters in RAW+jpg, kept the RAW files used for the HDR mode, bundled it with an EVF at a good discount.
Still a great little camera, but I'm not really seeing much reason to get this over the original
No. The problem is the people making these kind of comments don't understand what it actually takes to manufacture this kind of camera. Please looking up MTF, and it's implications to lenses. Don't just be annoying consumers who gripe about features that aren't actually feasible. Grip about low res raw video, but not about this lens please.
Make it write compressed cinema dng files. And offer a free open source dng editor on the phone. You want to sell phones? Make the camera color correct with sliders like adobe dng grading.
Francis Carver: Great news about having a firmware update for the Lumix DMC-GH3, people. Now, if only Panasonic would start making and shipping this promising camera to camera vendors, that would be perhaps an even better bit of news, eh?
Just when is "temporarily out of stock" becomes "permanently out of stock, anyhow?
B&H had 9 in stock this weekend? Supply and demand, not a new concept.
FreedomLover: We need 120fps video, or better yet 240fps, to make it smooth for the eye.
That will also make it easier to automatically take several pictures and combine them for better quality.
Small package FF prime 50mm f1.2 with silent digital zoom (crop) and fast panorama function (possibly by moving lens and sensor internally like in surveillance cameras).
You could also swing the sensor back and forth for composite layered focus.
The static lens with internal filters would allow good weather sealing.The polarisation filter would kick in optionally to create stunning pictures.
Plastic edges for camera protection could extend to small flexible and gripping tripod or sun shade for display.
Removable gorilla glass lens cover in filter thread for easy cleaning and replacement.
Optionally record audio during shooting and offer open source software for speech recognition integrating the text into Exif and image name.
Interactive manual with bookmarking viewable in camera changing settings.
240fps isn't a feature we want so we can display native 240fps content. It's a feature we want so we can slow down the footage 10x.
You always want your source, before compression, to be as clean as possible. Many things are lost in compression, but before it's compressed, many things can be gained with certain tools. Dynamic range to boost shadows. Extra resolution for re-framing in post. Extra frames to slow down and emphasize moments in otherwise uninteresting footage.
Low light doesn't intrinsically require a slower shutter speed. lowering your shutter speed is just one way to compensate for low light. There are other ways to compensate without adjusting your shutter speed: using faster lens, adjusting your iso or using a larger sensor camera.
Not all features possible in a dslr or compact are adaptable to phones... yet.
littlebitstrouds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2aFtnLe7msShot on an RX100 and edited in 5 min. Now that I can play with the RAW files, I've edited some amazing shots on it too. I absolutely love this camera, and I work with 20k camera rigs on a daily basis, but this thing really does fit in my pocket, and I take it everywhere with me. The best camera is the one you have with you, and this is always on me.
"BTW, when someone comes up to you and asks if that's a camera in your pocket or are you just glad to see him, what do you say?"Fairly certain that's homophobic and drenched in machismo. I thought this was an forum for people who are a little more my speed, I'll move along.
I guess you're assuming I wear skinny jeans?
This site really has trolls on it? Sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2aFtnLe7msShot on an RX100 and edited in 5 min. Now that I can play with the RAW files, I've edited some amazing shots on it too. I absolutely love this camera, and I work with 20k camera rigs on a daily basis, but this thing really does fit in my pocket, and I take it everywhere with me. The best camera is the one you have with you, and this is always on me.
Marty4650: These convergence appliances leave me cold. I don't even use the video function on my cameras. I prefer something that does one thing exceptionally well, over things that can do a lot of things somewhat well.
I realize there are lots of people who love the camera phone concept, but I really think Dpreview is casting their net much too widely now.
If they decided to start reviewing security cameras or endoscopes then someone would probably be thrilled. Because after all... they are also cameras of a sort.
IMHO, there are still plenty of real cameras that need reviewing... and that should be the priority of this website.
However, it's not my website. I am just a non-paying guest. And even with all this newly added clutter, Dpreview is still a great website.
So my opinion is just that. My opinion.
The best camera, is the camera you have with you. Fact is, I never know when I'm going to see something I want to document, and I just won't carry more then my cellphone wallet and keys with me throughout the day. I bought my Evo LTE phone because of it's amazing camera. I may trade it in, at a loss, and get this if the camera feature is that much better. There are consumers that love these reviews, and am glad they are covered.
Here's what I can do with my phone camera:http://youtu.be/IRV2XtkntjI