Patman888

Patman888

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On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Grant: What started as a pocket-able camera now needs a rolling case. Combine that with the price and fiddly IU and I'll keep my FF DSLR.

Naw, a small messenger or camera bag is EASILY big enough for a NEX system. Plenty compact enough for most. Apparently not to you. Full frame or cell phone right or wait. How about key chain camera.

Here goes. I'll stick with my key chain camera or medium format since the NEX lenses are HUGE compared to that tiny body.

Am I doing it right?

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:39 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Photomonkey: I note that despite it's spectacular specs the whiners are already in the streets.

Yup. Apparently if a lens is bigger than a M43 lens that negates all the other good features of a camera. haha

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:32 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Eric Glam: My disappointments with the NEX-7:

1. No clean HDMI-out. When connected to an HDTV, it displays all the menus along with the video feed, and the resolution is not 1920x1080, but less.

2. No touch-screen LCD. The NEX-5N has a touch screen, why not the NEX-7?
I know it has 3 dials, which is great, but why not add the touch capability as well?
I know a lot of folks who love using touch-focus, and it's missing here.

3. The screen only tilts up and down, like on the NEX-5 and NEX-5N. I really wanted a hinge mechanism just like the one on the A77.

4. Anyone here know how many focus points the NEX-7 is supposed to have?
And how many of those are cross-type?
Sony gladly mentions this on the A77 and A65, but no word what-so-ever of this feature on the NEX cams.

Also they have 90MB/s and even higher SD cards now. No camera has made use of them yet but I am sure the new ones will.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:30 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Eric Glam: My disappointments with the NEX-7:

1. No clean HDMI-out. When connected to an HDTV, it displays all the menus along with the video feed, and the resolution is not 1920x1080, but less.

2. No touch-screen LCD. The NEX-5N has a touch screen, why not the NEX-7?
I know it has 3 dials, which is great, but why not add the touch capability as well?
I know a lot of folks who love using touch-focus, and it's missing here.

3. The screen only tilts up and down, like on the NEX-5 and NEX-5N. I really wanted a hinge mechanism just like the one on the A77.

4. Anyone here know how many focus points the NEX-7 is supposed to have?
And how many of those are cross-type?
Sony gladly mentions this on the A77 and A65, but no word what-so-ever of this feature on the NEX cams.

First, the firmware isn't even final yet so wait for at least a preview version first. Second, a lot of those sound like battery life reasons to me. I'll gladly give up the higher resolution screen for a crazy EVF and more shots. Same strategy that Panasonic uses because their LCD screens have been low resolution for ages because they can't sacrifice battery life and the EVF. That just isn't an option. The A77 and A65 have fat batteries and battery grips so they can afford to go super high resolution both ways.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:28 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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roy5051: At last, Sony have built at body in the NEX series that is larger than its lenses, so that the lenses don't look like an afterthought. Won't please the "must have everything smaller" brigade, but looks more like a camera and lens rather than a lens and camera!

Look at the video with the NEX 7 on amazon. The lens are hardly huge and the camera hardly tiny. Stop being a dram queen and over exaggerating things. Like I said, the 20mm on the GH2 looks like a lens cap but who really gives a crap? Oh sorry. Apparently a tiny lens on a big body is okay but a normal sized lens on a smaller body is not. Okay. gotcha.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:17 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Patman888: I find it quite laughable how the M4/3 crowd puts the size of the lens before everything else. I always thought IQ and ergonomics were the most important. I guess I went to the wrong university.

There is a market for it but then you should just buy M43 and ignore the NEX. It doesn't mean you have to bash everything that is slightly bigger and completely write it off. Those close minded people are the ones who miss out in life.

The NEX lens sizes are fine for some and is the right balance of IQ and ergonomics IMO. I would rank it like this.

1. Ergonomics
2. Price ( which the NEX 7 fails at)
3. IQ/sensor
4. Quality of the lens
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9. Looks/styling
10. Size of the lens

You don't see NEX and DSLR fans bombard a M43 camera announcement saying stupid stuff like "sigh, if only the lens were bigger" or "what is the point of getting a pancake lens if it doesn't match the size of that huge almost DSLR sized GH2 body?"

You don't here that stuff because we are not ridiculously unreasonable like your camp is. haha

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:12 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Aleo Veuliah: Good camera, but wait a bit and we will see similar on micro 4/3 with a Panasonic Lumix

You'll be waiting awhile since the GF7 is apparently a ways off still. Probably because they are a plasma company and the smallest plasma is 42inches. They have to work out a deal with Sony or Samsung to get this OLED viewfinder or dissect it and make their own or it'll be a blurry lag like the one on my GH2.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 16:00 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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roy5051: At last, Sony have built at body in the NEX series that is larger than its lenses, so that the lenses don't look like an afterthought. Won't please the "must have everything smaller" brigade, but looks more like a camera and lens rather than a lens and camera!

Um...don,t buy the adapter then? haha The haters are absolutely ridiculous. Sigh.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 15:54 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Patman888: I find it quite laughable how the M4/3 crowd puts the size of the lens before everything else. I always thought IQ and ergonomics were the most important. I guess I went to the wrong university.

Also, if I choose to buy a smaller camera, it does not absolutely NEED to have a lot of pancake lens. I have a GH2 and G2 and the smallest lens I have is a 14-42mm which I might sell. I have no intention of buying the 20mm but if it was the same size as the 14 - 42 I honestly would like it more. Matches my camera bodies more and gives be a more stable platform to shoot and is still a lot smaller than a DSLR. I like the weight savings but it doesn't mean I have to buy a girl camera with tiny lens. A civic coupe (NEX 7) is small enough. I do not need a fricking smart car/Austin Mini(what you losers insist that the standard should be). I definitely wouldn't buy a truck(A77) just because the Civic is not as small as a smart car. Different people have different needs. You see how ridiculous you guys sound now? The NEX 7 + lens size is perfectly fine and could be even GASP, ideal for some.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 15:51 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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roy5051: At last, Sony have built at body in the NEX series that is larger than its lenses, so that the lenses don't look like an afterthought. Won't please the "must have everything smaller" brigade, but looks more like a camera and lens rather than a lens and camera!

The must have everything smaller brigade are so ridiculously unreasonable it is laughable. The lens ARE still much smaller than DSLR lens and they tell me to get an A77 like it is the same size? Please!

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 15:41 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Patman888: I find it quite laughable how the M4/3 crowd puts the size of the lens before everything else. I always thought IQ and ergonomics were the most important. I guess I went to the wrong university.

Sorry, that should read NEX 7 and not NRX7.

And that should read Amazon NEX 7 video.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 15:39 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)
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Patman888: I find it quite laughable how the M4/3 crowd puts the size of the lens before everything else. I always thought IQ and ergonomics were the most important. I guess I went to the wrong university.

I didn't say that size wasn't an issue. I am just not biased enough to put size ABOVE IQ and ergonomics and reject a camera based on the lens size, which seem normal sized to me, like you rejects seem to be doing. The NEX is still much smaller than a good DSLR set up especially compared to the A77. Heck the A65 is much smaller than the A77 and the A55 smaller still. The NRX 7 even smaller not matter what size the lens is. So I find your comments about just getting an A77 instead quite ridiculous considering the size savings are HUGE. Besides, if you watch that Amazon NEX 7, the size of the lens look perfectly in synch with the camera plus the size allows you to cradle the lens for stability. Why does it have to be a pancake, it is easily small enough. You guys are just haters it seems.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 15:36 UTC
On Sony NEX-7 high-end APS-C mirrorless camera first look article (355 comments in total)

I find it quite laughable how the M4/3 crowd puts the size of the lens before everything else. I always thought IQ and ergonomics were the most important. I guess I went to the wrong university.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 24, 2011 at 08:22 UTC as 112th comment | 13 replies
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