DStudio: Since some here are raving about the Sony A7R II in comparison, I went back and reviewed the gallery again. I remember I especially liked the photos of the girl looking out the window.
Too bad, they would have been even better with this camera.
The Sony is good, but it's not even in the same class as this camera. Not a single one of those photos compares to the better photos here. These simply have better dimensionality. The photos look and feel more like the actual items, rather than just photos of the objects. These are the nicest quality photos I've seen in a DPR gallery in a while.
There's really no trick to seeing the difference. Just take your analytical, rational glasses off for a moment. Instead observe and feel the photos as you go through them. Don't try *too* hard; just notice that most photos don't have quite the qualities these do. Perhaps some purists will prefer other Leica models, but this Leica glass is still capturing something special that most others miss!
Thank you. You had no problem seeing what I was trying to say. There is more to images than smoothness, or lack of. Any decent econo-camera today can produce a decent image at ISO100 or 200. But to produce texture or a sense of texture at any ISO and to control inevitable noise artifacts to resemble tight patterned film grain is special. You only get that with special attention to sensor and firmware parameters and really excellent lens glass and formulae. And if some others can't see it or appreciate it, well that is their problem and they shouldn't be fooling around with anything other than an average camera with an average kit lens.
See my response to DStudio below.
I really cannot understand the carping of those who claim that the IQ is no better than an NEX-5N (which I used to own and loved) or as someone claimed, a Canon Nexus. Give me and the other readers a break. Alert: I own both the Leica M9P as well as the Leica X2, but have no intention of ever purchasing the Leica Q since what I already have produces excellent 13X19's; as large as I ever intend to print.
However, if those readers would reexamine the gallery images at normal expanded size and then apply the 100% loupe of images @ ISO 800 and 1000, they should see that the noise closely resembles fine grain film with a very tight pattern. Is it noiseless at these ISO settings? No. My Fuji XPro-1 is noiseless well beyond that point. But noise is not the the main issue. It is how the noise is dealt with.
These images take digital to a whole new level. From the noiseless ISO 100 to the well controlled fine noise @ ISO 1000, bright colors in RAW and great contrast, I am very impressed.
I really don't see the advantage to this device. It is larger and heavier than a simple tripod plate such as the standard Acra. You can buy several Acra type tripod plates for the cost of this device and simply leave them on your camera.I'd rather leave the Acra plate on the camera (s) than this overbuilt monster.I'll pass.
Hey guys, lighten up. The article clearly states that the images are a simulationand not actual photographic images produced by a "Modulo camera". So why the ignorant comments about the quality of the image? At this point it is a theoretical paper and it awaits practical application. If it works in practice, it could be a real step forward toward solving the range of light problem in digital photography. As things now stand, HDR can produce some very unpleasant results and too many photographers over process HDR to the point of unreality which for some weird reason frequently gets high praise which occasionally is undeserved.
Well, if I ever get tired of taking pictures with mine, I can always use it as a weapon.
Further comment responding to YorkM who said: "...The M9 owner was lucky because it is a range finder, otherwise the mirror related parts might be damaged. Also, the owner put case on it without caring how it is inconvenient to see the picture and setting by rear display, or the case may have a rear screen see through function...."
The rangefinder assembly is full of a moving mirror and other delicate moving parts and is probably more sensitive to serious blows than a DLSR. It's no secret that the Leica M series is built like a tank. Still the owner was very lucky.
As to the case, if I'm not mistaken, it looks like the one by Artist and Artisan which like my own Luigi leather case is open on the back giving full access to all controls and screen. That half case probably was important in saving the camera from further damage. Don't leave home without it. I never do.
Mr. Stagram and Mr. Ashton have too much time on their hands and it looks like it was a slow news day at DP Review.
Jim Evidon: DPReview has dedicated more space to this camera than any other in my recent memory. Do they own Sony stock or are they owned by Sony? There are a lot of other cameras out there that deserve some very close attention rather than a casual passing acknowledgement with some pictures.
Seriously, guys, it's a nice little camera and all that, but please give it a rest.
CA Chardonnay or Ch. Petrus?
Conspiracy theorist? Where is your sense of humor?
DPReview has dedicated more space to this camera than any other in my recent memory. Do they own Sony stock or are they owned by Sony? There are a lot of other cameras out there that deserve some very close attention rather than a casual passing acknowledgement with some pictures.
Jim Evidon: Can a new 20 MP Leica X Vario be far behind?
I wonder if Panasonic will allow Olympus to either use or license this new sensor? Any claimed deficits in performance are likely the result of firmware rather than sensor design and are likely to be be ironed out with firmware updates.
As to advantages of 20 MP over the very fine 16MP sensors in both Panasonic and Olympus cameras, I have long ago found the upper usable limits in the 16 MP image cropping and the new 20 MP sensor should allow these limits to be stretched; a definite advantage.
But in terms of high ISO noise, neither MFT sensor can hold a candle to the FujiX Pro-1 or the XT series, which is to be expected from the larger Fuji APSC sensor.
Disclaimer: I own the Olympus E-5M and the Fuji XPro-1 as well as the Leica M9P (CCD sensor) which blows the other sensors away in resolution, but fails in noise comparisons to the others above ISO 1000 or so.
Bhima78,You may think there is a sacrifice from stories you have read, but as a satisfied advanced user of the FF Leica M9P, the MFT Olympus E-5M and the 16 MP Fuji XPro-1, I can say without qualification that you are dead wrong. The Fuji, because of it's unique array does not require a resolution-stealing anti-moire filter and therefore produces very high resolution images that are matched up to ISO 800 only by the Leica FF sensor and above ISO 800 blows everything else away except the latest Canon, Sony and Nikon FF sensors which are the current state of the art. Do not make the mistake of thinking that the X series CMOS sensor of the Fuji is anything other that excellent.
The DPR studio scene shots have on occasion been questionable. A recent camera was shown in DPR with out of focus studio shots that I know from my own first hand experience were clearly in error and should have been re-shot. DPR is very good most of the time, but even they are subject to mistakes on occasion.
Can a new 20 MP Leica X Vario be far behind?
Except for some disclaimers that pop up when I open CC2014 and sometimes the need to drag images into CC2014 to work on them, it works flawlessly and I have seen no need or reason to upgrade to CC2015. It has yet to crash or close prematurely as P.S. 5 did on occasion.
Until you technical experts have the opportunity to read the patent application to see what Olympus is doing exactly, your comments need to be restrained.You may very well be ultimately correct, but the article does not present enough information for you to say it won't work, will lose half the light, etc. Crystal balls are fine in their place, but are highly suspect.
Jim Evidon: So, let me get this straight. According to the picture, in the French article, you hold the iPhone in one hand while balancing the DXO Cam in the other hand while attempting to keep the Cam level while you are looking at the iPhone, right?
It is an interesting exercise in technology, but for the same money, I agree with other responses that you are better off buying a Sony RX100 model (I through IV ) or a Ricoh, Fuji, or other pocketable and let those who have to be the first on their block to own the latest gadget knock themselves out. Future models of the DXO may make a different impression.
I agree on the twist concept. My first digital was a Nikon Coolpix 995, and I still have it as a vintage curiosity. But I am concerned about the strength and reliability of the tiny connection that hold the two devices together. The Nikon 995 was built like a tank. This new concept does not appear to be so.
It is too bad he didn't comment on the Fuji XPro-1 in covering optical finders.It's hybrid finder combines both technologies, albeit not with the latest technology. But the XPro-1 has been around for a while and in camera generation frame of reference, it is now several generations behind. I wonder if Fuji will introduce a new model of the hybrid finder camera incorporating an up to date EVF and a sensor with increased resolution and IQ and the focusing speed to match the competition.
I still enjoy my hybrid finder mirrorless Fuji X and will replace it only with a newer model with the same concept if , indeed, Fuji ever makes one.
So, let me get this straight. According to the picture, in the French article, you hold the iPhone in one hand while balancing the DXO Cam in the other hand while attempting to keep the Cam level while you are looking at the iPhone, right?
Johannes Zander: Very nice camera. I like it.Now if Sony would build somthing like a digital minolta CLE with M mount! How about that?
Sony has a long history of building things that are unique and non-interchangeable with anything else on the market. Witness the ill-fated Betamax, the Sony E reader which flopped, the Sony E mount cameras and everything else Sony builds. The first and last smart thing they did was to buy the Minolta camera division and patents for their A series cameras.
I wouldn't look to Sony to build anything that has commonality with M mounts or anything else. They do their own thing.
miric: Oh Leica. Please do the same but no lens and M bayonet. I'll take for $3000.
Buy the Leica T body. No lens and no M mount. Now what?
Leandros S: "It also turns out that shooting with the Q is a lot of fun." - Funny that this is exactly what most people say of the Pentax camera of the same name.
All cameras are, or should be lots of fun. If it is not, find one that is, be it Leica, Pentax or even a little point and shoot Sony or Nikon. That's the whole point, isn't it?