Jim Evidon: So, let me get this straight. According to the picture, in the French article, you hold the iPhone in one hand while balancing the DXO Cam in the other hand while attempting to keep the Cam level while you are looking at the iPhone, right?
It is an interesting exercise in technology, but for the same money, I agree with other responses that you are better off buying a Sony RX100 model (I through IV ) or a Ricoh, Fuji, or other pocketable and let those who have to be the first on their block to own the latest gadget knock themselves out. Future models of the DXO may make a different impression.
I agree on the twist concept. My first digital was a Nikon Coolpix 995, and I still have it as a vintage curiosity. But I am concerned about the strength and reliability of the tiny connection that hold the two devices together. The Nikon 995 was built like a tank. This new concept does not appear to be so.
It is too bad he didn't comment on the Fuji XPro-1 in covering optical finders.It's hybrid finder combines both technologies, albeit not with the latest technology. But the XPro-1 has been around for a while and in camera generation frame of reference, it is now several generations behind. I wonder if Fuji will introduce a new model of the hybrid finder camera incorporating an up to date EVF and a sensor with increased resolution and IQ and the focusing speed to match the competition.
I still enjoy my hybrid finder mirrorless Fuji X and will replace it only with a newer model with the same concept if , indeed, Fuji ever makes one.
So, let me get this straight. According to the picture, in the French article, you hold the iPhone in one hand while balancing the DXO Cam in the other hand while attempting to keep the Cam level while you are looking at the iPhone, right?
Johannes Zander: Very nice camera. I like it.Now if Sony would build somthing like a digital minolta CLE with M mount! How about that?
Sony has a long history of building things that are unique and non-interchangeable with anything else on the market. Witness the ill-fated Betamax, the Sony E reader which flopped, the Sony E mount cameras and everything else Sony builds. The first and last smart thing they did was to buy the Minolta camera division and patents for their A series cameras.
I wouldn't look to Sony to build anything that has commonality with M mounts or anything else. They do their own thing.
miric: Oh Leica. Please do the same but no lens and M bayonet. I'll take for $3000.
Buy the Leica T body. No lens and no M mount. Now what?
Leandros S: "It also turns out that shooting with the Q is a lot of fun." - Funny that this is exactly what most people say of the Pentax camera of the same name.
All cameras are, or should be lots of fun. If it is not, find one that is, be it Leica, Pentax or even a little point and shoot Sony or Nikon. That's the whole point, isn't it?
SanPedro: First time I've actually thought 'Hey that Leica looks good value'How much is a stand alone Summilux? A quick Google suggests $2000 - $4000, depending on focal length and aperture.
So that's a whole camera for the same price as a lens. Sounds like a good deal to me.
And he spec is good. FF, fast lens, quality EVF, exposure compensation dial, high quality LCD, compact size. This addresses all the issues people had with the X cameras.
I still can't afford one, but it's a lot more affordable than an M. Brings the dream a little closer. Thanks Leica.
Leica is an investment. You can't possible be concerned with terms like obsolete unless your bankroll is infinite and you must always have the latest thing. Leica owners generally keep their cameras for a long time and usually have a good reason for buying a particular model in the first place. In today's market, every camera can be considered "obsolete" before it goes on sale. When you buy a Leica, you better have a darned good reason for doing so and you have to forget terms like obsolete.
I have an M9P with a CCD sensor. Sure the M with a CMOS sensor is probably better, although there is some room for argument. The fact that the M allows the use of an EVF and zoom lenses iare really neat features. But I don't feel that my M9P is at all obsolete.I consider it a long term investment. When I want zoom and EVF features, auto focus and the like, I can always use one of my other more "modern" cameras. Obsolete is not a word in the Leica owners lexicon.
Slipstack: Review quote: "The Q is much heavier though and has a far superior build quality to the Fujifilm."
So why is it that that red dot with the Leica logo is not aligned correctly, but twisted 2-3 degrees clockwise, enough to make it seriously annoying to look at? Is this just me, or have nobody else noticed?
You are right about the Logo. The red dot is sticky backed to the camera. Remove it and there is probably some sort of adjustment screw or something like it. Once it is removed, you have a high old time re-attaching it perfectly in-line. I know because I went through the exercise.
Mike99999: Looks 100% Panasonic to me. They just glue the Panaleica lens on in Germany and call it "made in Germany".
What I would like to see is an IQ comparison to cheap A7 + cheap 28/2.
I suggest you read the article before commenting re.: Panasonic.
Per DPReview in this article:
"...According to Leica, the camera was designed along the principle of 'reduction to the essentials.' And as such, the body of the camera offers a minimal amount of physical buttons and dials. It also worth noting that unlike the Leica T, which was designed in conjunction with Audi, the Leica Q was designed completely in-house by Leica engineers...."
Leica is steadily breaking away from Panasonic for their small camera line. They are going for very high quality cameras to satisfy every need; from completely manual M's to automatic fixed prime lens Q's. I'll stick with my M9P with a Fuji X100 backup for now, but the Q looks like an ideal small street shooter/travelcamera as long as price is no object. This camera is getting back to the original Barnack concept; a small carry around camera with few complications. Keep it up!
simpleshot: A few things that I don't like with this camera:1. It is has a color sensor.2. It is has auto focus.3. It costs $4250 only. I want a $9000 one.4. It does not have the parallax thingy that I really like./s
GO GET A KODAK BROWNIE. IT WILL PROBABLY SATISFY YOU.127 FILM IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, WHICH SHOULD MAKE YOU HAPPY. NO FILM, SO NO SCREW-UPS. PERFECT SHOT EVERY TIME.
It is an incredibly fine job of stitching. It also stands for the proposition that some people have too much time on their hands.
VENTURE-STAR: Pardon my obvious stupidity, but where's the actual preview for this camera? There are a series of images that don't even show the back of this camera - is that the preview? Wouldn't a bit of technical spec and comment have been useful?
Leicas are lovely things and nice toys for lottery winners who have an interest in photography, but what's the point of a camera body that only does monochrome even if the images are fractionally cleaner? What's the advantage over making whatever you want monochrome on your PC? I'm afraid the point of this camera body seems to be going right over my head. It must be aimed at an extraordinarily small specialized market! I certainly don't know anyone who would seriously consider buying it.
Note to DP Review:Your previews are, in general, not very informative and this latest preview of the new Leica M Mono is near useless. Both DP Review and it's readers would be better served if you would wait and give us the full review. Your full reviews are usually excellent. A simple new product announcement with the advertised features followed in due course by a full review would work very well.
To princecody, Re.: Steve Huff claims that 4/3 is as good as FF.
I have the best of 4/3's, the OM-D. It is better than excellent for a 4/3's and if it were FF, it would rule the market. But it is not FF. I do my own printing and believe me, 4/3, even the Olympus 4/3's has a discernible upper limit well below that of FF.
So, before you go spouting off about a camera you do not own concerning its merits and its deficits and relying on alleged opinions that are patently incorrect, you should check out the products yourself. Both my Leica M9P and my Fuji XPro-1 surpass the 4/3's in very large enlargements.The advantage of the 4/3's OM-D, and the reason I use it when traveling is that it is weather resistant, very light weight and the camera with a large zoom lens does not give me a sore neck like some of the larger cameras. But I always pack my Leica + lenses as well. It's not quite as light as the Olympus, but it's FF images are amazing.
What did he use for lens and camera?
iAPX,I have no problem focusing using my M9P. I learned that part of theproblem getting a sharp image on the Leica M's can be solved simply dipping back into the camera practices we had before image stabilization. I find that shooting at 1/125 sec or higher eliminates camera shake and the rangefinder focusing is really right on. At slower shutter speeds you need to be extra steady; shooting after exhaling. These are mostly ignored practices these days with auto focus, auto exposure options and image stbilization and to use the manual cameras properly, you have to re-learn old practices.
Just so you know I am not a fanatic, I also have Fuji X-Pro-1 & a OM-D.
As for the price, this camera is not everyone's priority. It is hand made and the tolerances and inspection criteria are super close. It's a labor intensive camera.One of my first cameras was a Leica IIIf. I was seduced by the SLR's coming on market at the time and a few years ago I bought a new/demo M8 and never looked back.
Looks like a nice bag, but what do I do with my Billingham Hadley? As nice as it is, there are so many other nice bags in the marketplace that cost both more and less. How does one compete with the excellent Domke bags on the lower end, the Billingham and/or Ona bags on the higher end and the really well thought out Think Tanks in the middle. It's a crowded marketplace and so many of them are already very good. Anything else is just a style statement and how much do you pay for that?
Actually, it is the Leica bodies as well and they do not suck. They are built like a bank vault which it not necessarily appealing to the average amateur, but very necessary to the professional and even the amateur that wants a long lasting camera body that can take a beating.
I bought my first film Leica many years ago and then succumbed to the SLR's. A few years back, I bought a factory refurbished demonstrator M8. Leica's are intuitive uncomplicated cameras that simply take superb images. No deep menus. As you remarked, the glass is unparalleled and combined with the Leica sensor and firmware gives the Leica that certain look which combines IQ with contrast, color and texture that is different from the competition. Not necessarily better. It is just different.
I've found that owning a Leica is a long term thing and in the long run, I doubt if it is any more expensive than owning a Canon/Nikon replaced every 3 to 4 years by owners that must have the latest bells & whistles.
THE DREADED SENSOR CORROSION ISSUE?I went to LensRental's article which had several images of the problem.It looks suspiciously like the Leica M9 sensor corrosion problem with the tell-tale "fisheye" spots. Leica replaced my sensor at no charge as an act of good customer relations. I also had the same issue on the sensor of my old Nikon D70s, although no one recognized it at the time as glass corrosion (yes, glass corrodes).
I wonder if Canon will be as responsible when it comes to customer support.
What many of you fail to realize is that Leica has no aspirations to be a cookie cutter camera giant. Canon, Nikon (at least some), Olympus and Fuji all make very fine cameras. Leica has never made cameras for the masses. The very first Leica I was unlike any other camera in the world and was predicted to be an absolute failures. So here we are 90 years later and the Leitz/ Leica camera company is still going strong in its own small way. It has a loyal customer base.
Leica knows it's market. Customer relations are excellent, IMO. It is an excellent camera and a unique shooting experience providing superb images again and again.
Will I buy a M240? No. The M9-P satisfies me very much. It is built to last and I love the fact that its functions are basic, and the images are tack sharp with the right balance of contrast and color; that illusive Leica look that non-Leica people believe is a fiction. Believe me, it is very real. The M240 and 240 Monochrom appear to be worthy successors.