mmarian: Is this update for CC user only or for the old stand alone PS user too??
DavidH202 - only time will tell. If anything goes wrong, I can always reinstall the CD version of Bridge...I like the new features so far.
@ DavidH202 - I'm in the same situation as you are; however, I was able to download the latest Bridge...now I have both the old version and the new one on my Mac...
Waldo Nell: While I appreciate the effort of posting the sample images, they are a big let down from one major selling point of these new lenses (and my interest in them) - to showcase a creamy bokeh. Where are the images that showcases F2.8 bokeh of a non even toned background?
I agree. With today's lens design technology, most of the lens will give very good IQ at smaller apertures regardless of brand. What separates one lens from another is the out-of-focus area (bokeh). For me, that's the major deciding factor if I was going to shell out couple grand. Unfortunately, DPreview don't do much of that, especially on the portrait lenses.
Okay, it's great to see something new from Canon. However, the fact that there is no mention of improvement in DR worries me. Also, this baby is $500 less that the Nikon D5 confirms my suspicion...Canon usually charge way more than Nikon....
A very smart move from Leica. The Pandas limited edition is a marketing strategy to get attention from the Mainland Chinese market.
beavertown: A lot sharper than the old version.
Slightly tiny bit sharper than the Sigma Art, so the price they ask for doesn't justify.
Wondered if Nikon glasses are behind Canon and Sigma recently in terms of sharpness.
Sigma's 35mm f/1.4 has already outperformed Nikon's 35mm f/1.4g in terms IQ (wide open) and bokeh when it was first introduced.
Joed700: Okay, I finally figured out how to use the DXO lens comparison features; thanks to YouTube. Anyhow, I did a direct comparison between the old 24-70mm to the new one using the D810. To my surprise, the VR version is actually not as sharp as the old one under the P-MPix Map test at around f/2.8 - f/4.0 zoom range from 50mm - 70mm. And on the Field Map test, the old 24-70mm outperformed the new one on almost every zoom range and aperture. If that's the case, the only thing you are getting out from this new lens is extra weight and the VR feature, but you trade off for IQ...
@ SmilerGrogan - Yes, that's wrong. If you've been with Nikon for a while, this is no surprise...typical Nikon culture...for every 2 step forward, they take one step backward.
Now, all Canon needs is to upgrade their century old 50mm f/1.4 lens.
Okay, I finally figured out how to use the DXO lens comparison features; thanks to YouTube. Anyhow, I did a direct comparison between the old 24-70mm to the new one using the D810. To my surprise, the VR version is actually not as sharp as the old one under the P-MPix Map test at around f/2.8 - f/4.0 zoom range from 50mm - 70mm. And on the Field Map test, the old 24-70mm outperformed the new one on almost every zoom range and aperture. If that's the case, the only thing you are getting out from this new lens is extra weight and the VR feature, but you trade off for IQ...
nafik: I’m going to wait until all the quality control problems are solved. Too many people have been burned with having to send brand new products back to Nikon for fixes of things that should have been caught before shipping. Nikon is not known for admitting and quickly resolving QC problems.
@ cgarrard - not sure the Tsunami is to be blamed because the D750 were made in China not Japan, so is the new 300mm f/4 PF.
@DualSystmeGuy - sounds like you'd never dealt with Nikon's repair and you are very lucky. Here's more details about my experience with the D600 repair. The camera was sent in twice and the invoices clearly stated that the shutter was replaced and the sensor was cleaned (twice). Basically, Nikon lie about the shutter replacement because the actuation number didn't change when the camera came back. However, when they replaced my D750's shutter, the actuation was less than 10 when I got it back. So what do you think about this kind of service attitude. I was w/o my camera for over 2 months out of the year. As a consumer, I'm not sure Nikon is keeping me very happy...it's easy for someone to criticize one's action without actually being there themselves. I'm not trying to be difficult, but just to state the matter of fact.
DualSystemGuy - No idea how long you've been using Nikon, but as for me, I've been using their products since the film era....all I can say is that their build quality/QC has gone down after the release of D300/D700. FYI, the only reason Nikon's willing to recall the D600 was they wanted to avoid a class-action law suit and the fact the Chinese government had openly criticized the D600 issue. You think I should have sent the D600 on the 3rd time...you certainly have quite a bit patience.
" The last few years have shown them to be better than anyone else for admitting and resolving problems" The shutter on my D750 die only after 2K actuation. I got a brand new shutter within a month. My D600 was sent in twice and the dust issue kept coming back; I finally sold it knowing that the next owner can keep sending it back in if they have plenty of time on their hands. IMO, wait for the D500s/D5s. The first gen is always a beta version...
Joed700: Okay, it's definitely good news for those who's been waiting for the D300 replacement. What about the D700 replacement?
The build quality of the D750 is nowhere near the D700; I happened to own both. D700's top shutter is at 1/8000 not 1/4000.
Okay, it's definitely good news for those who's been waiting for the D300 replacement. What about the D700 replacement?
FastGlassLover: For a nice glowing portrait, I love the Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 ai-s,at /1.2. Even the finest detail is retained, and very visible with large prints, but you still get a wonderful glow that makes the image look almost like a surreal painting. If you don't want the glow, stop down to f/2 and you get excellent clarity.
Thank you for pointing that out. I had the 50mm f/1.2 ai-s and I agree with your observation. Also, the Fuji XF 56mm f/1.2 does something similar but it too retain finest details at large prints.
Joed700: The first picture was a disappointment when looking at 100% magnification. Hardly any sharpness even at f/4. My Nikon 50mm f/1.4g @ f/1.4 has better sharpness than that; mind you the the Nikon 50mm f/1.4g is known for producing soft images; too soft for some...The 4th pix at the dinning table is practically useless at f/2; image making a large print...
@ tkbslc - "the lens is to create a special kind of image level softness and glow" I got that. As I had stated earlier, it's a matter of opinion and personal taste. The question is how soft is consider acceptable to a photographer is a million dollar question. I shoot portraits myself and tried many 50mm and 85mm lenses. Most of the lens I've tried can produce soft images and maintain a certain level of sharpness where it's critical, especial the subject's eyes. As I had stated earlier, the images look great until you look at it at 100% magnification. To me, that's a deal breaker because I do make large prints and the sharpness on the subject's eyes is important to me.
@tkbslc - talk is cheap. What point did I miss? What's your point?
"something that is hard to quantify" How about putting on one of the soft filters we used during the film era? You can always take it off when you needed sharpness again. BTW, if you don't look at something 100% crop, why do you think there are differences in price for various lenses out there?
bildsee: $450 for a intentional soft lens? Fascinating.In former times we put petroleum jelly on a filter.That would be a nice "gear of the year" :)
Keep in mind that you can always take off the filters, but in this case, this isn't a choice.
@ tkbslc - "missing the point of this lens by about a mile" It's a matter of opinion. Sure, the pictures looks nice at small size...things look even better at the back of your camera's LCD..