Anastigmat: For real? A metal chassis camera with full frame sensor for less than $1800? This camera can revive Pentax's fortunes, and send Canon and Nikon scrambling to match it in features and price. So far Nikon and Canon have been selling plastic bodied full frames in this price range. That can change.
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Malcolm Kantzler: Does anyone know if the Pentax 645 SMC lenses (manual, AF, and Leaf Shutter) will work with this camera with at least Aperture-Priority metering, and if so with adapter, what the adapter is? Those 645 system lenses are beautiful performers and I'd love to be able to use them on a full-frame digital body w/o the expense of a medium-format digital body. Thanks.
The leaf shutters should function since the K-1 retains a PC socket. I'm not sure about exposure modes though. You may have to shoot in manual, preset the aperture, and do stop-down metering.
I wasn't expecting the 15-30, but now that it's been announced, it my have to be my first purchase after the K-1. Constant 2.8? Check. Zoom range >2 and <4? Check. Fills a gap in my full frame and APS-C lineup? Check. It's like they read my mind.
Daniel4: How do I move the focus point?
@Androole The way I see it they TOOK the opportunity not to make that screen on the back a touchscreen. I hate touchscreens, and I don't want to have to take my eye out of the viewfinder to focus. Besides, touching the screen gets your screen all oily and smudged.
The Squire: Big news. I wasn't sure if this or Duke Nukem Forever was going to be released first.
They don't release very often, but when they do it's always interesting... I almost bought in to Pentax a few years ago, only the slow release cycles put me off.
Short product life cycles are killing the camera industry. Cameras are so good these days that there is little point in upgrading from year to year. Canon, Nikon and Sony don't seem to realize that the market has reached a saturation point, but they may soon have to take a page from the book of Pentax. Give the user less frequent upgrades, but more bang for the buck when upgrades are offered.
40daystogo: First off, I think the camera is ugly - but then again, everyone's taste differs. (To put this in perspective, I love the design of Apple, Leica M's, Sony A7 series, Olympus Pen F - I hate Lumix's designs. This Pentax is even uglier than the Lumix's, that's how ugly this Pentax is to my eye).
Next, I think Pentax would have been better off bringing a Full Frame mirrorless system to take on Sony. There's no way that Pentax can compete with the market leaders Canon and Nikon, with Sony coming in 3rd. There just isn't room for another FF DSLR.
Whereas in the FF Mirrorless, apart from Sony there's no one else. All the other mirrorless systems have smaller sensors. Pentax should have tried to become No.2 in FF mirrorless behind Sony.
I would have been so angry if they had finally released a full-frame, but abandoned the K mount. After 15 years of waiting, that would have been the ultimate slap in the face.
DonThomaso: The DA Lens compatibility chart from Ricoh seems very conservative. There are threads on Pentaxforums where multiple users are reporting in test shots with these lenses on film- or Sony A7-bodies, and e.g. DA40 Ltd, DA50/1.8, DA*55/1.4, DA70 Ltd are reported as "Fully functional".
It could be that the K-1's image stabilization moves the sensor quite a bit perhaps?
@ Mark Banas Yeah, this means that aspect ratios other than 2:3 still get to take advantage of the whole image circle. Square format fans will love it.
samhain: This camera is beautiful.
As a former long time Pentax shooter, my big question is: how good will the fa limiteds be with this new sensor? Those 3 little lenses were the reason I went with Pentax in the first place, and the darlings of the lens line up.
If I was Pentax, I would be working hastily on bringing out updated versions of those lenses(and ideally have production brought back to Japan). Throw in a new 50mm 1.2 & 85mm 1.2 (and a pro level flash) and I think they'd could draw in a LOT of buyers.
When I first started shopping cameras, a Japanese photographer I really respected wrote: "bodies come and go. You buy into a system for the lenses."That always stuck with me. And a stunner 50/1.2 & 85/1.2 would call to wedding & portrait shooters like a siren.
The Three Amigos are definitely up to the challenge. It's no real mystery how they are going to perform, you can find plenty of images shot on the A7 series of cameras.
star shooter: This 'starstream' feature has my curiosity. How does it work? What is the min. and max. exposures under the stars for the sensor to 'move' and does it matter what lens it uses to work this feature? Does it have Bulb and can one get a remote fort his camera to keep the shutter open for an hour or two? I do prof. Astrophotoraphy.
I've never used the feature, but on Pentax's APS-C bodies I believe the max exposure time is about five minutes. Here is a video that discusses the astrotracer function in a little more depth.
This is an older video, and the GPS module had not been integrated into the camera as it has in the K-3 II and K-1.
BigOne: I have to note one observation I've had over the years. I never saw a "Pentax fanboy". Pentax customers never start holywars about their cameras on any forums. They never brag about fastest this or largest this. They patiently wait for new models, pick lenses for the oldest mount on the market (since 1956!!!) and just enjoy what they have. That's what I call loyalty.
m42 -> 1949 (though Asahi didn't get in on the action until 1964)m37 -> 1952 and it can still be mounted 64 years later (though it begs the question "why?")
"It's worth keeping in mind, though, that a 36MP sensor is likely to be fairly demanding on older glass, and our initial impressions of shooting with one older 50mm Pentax prime aren't wholly encouraging."
I don't think anyone expects a budget kit lens from 1979 to be a stellar performer, but out of curiosity was metering part of the problem? If so, try shooting in M mode, and use the green button to set your shutter speed. The KAF3 mount lacks an aperture coupler to estimate the exposure from an M series lens like you are using. (My apologies if you already knew that.)
What's up with the zoom ring being in front of the focus ring on some these new DFA lenses? It's going to be a total mind job switching back an forth with my older glass.
I would have traded the big, goofy dial on top for a little more LCD real estate. I would have liked to see a 1/500th max sync speed ideally, but failing that, at least 1/250th. I don't really need more than 1 FPS for portraits, but some will find 4.4 a bit limiting. Other than those quibbles, I can't say I'm too disappointed. Now, can I get it ten years ago?
Long overdue. Hey, maybe that should be the new company slogan!
That's quite impressive. I don't know if it can be called a paradigm shift, but I think there is more potential for growth with this approach than in current CMOS technology.
I wonder, since the electrodes can be switched on and off so quickly, if this might be used as an alternative to high speed sync in flash applications? Essentially it would work like the old CCD chips where: the mirror would raise(assuming there is a mirror) and the shutter open, the chip would turn on, the flash would fire, the chip would turn off, and the shutter and mirror would reset. If the sensor could be switched on and off in, say, 1/1000th of a second or faster, it could have dramatic implications for outdoor location shooting. Having the extra DR is already a nice bonus.
Technology sucks, we should all go back to shooting Daguerreotypes. Can't be copied, satisfactorily anyway, and the only way to obtain one is to hire a professional.
Maxfield_photo: On the one hand, it's good that Pentax had decided to fill this gap in their upcoming full frame line up, but $1300 is a lot for a re-branded Tamron design. I owned the Tamron version (think I paid $450 used from KEH), and it was a decent performer, but I was never wowed by the images the way I am with my DA* 50-135. I traded the Tamron for the Pentax FA* 28-70, and I'm very glad I did, it's a magnificent lens. Pentax does not give out the * designation lightly. With the announcement of this stop-gap lens, I have the feeling it may be a long time before we see a D FA* standard zoom for a system that deserves it.
Ah! Actually I stand corrected, this is a copy of the newer Tamron design, 17 elements in 12 groups with 4 asphericals and 3 ED elements. The older design which I owned was 16 elements in 14 groups. THAT lens was much cheaper than the new design. And since this new lens has the Pentax HD coatings $1300 may not be so steep, still it would have been nice to see weather sealing, even if it increased the cost.
On the one hand, it's good that Pentax had decided to fill this gap in their upcoming full frame line up, but $1300 is a lot for a re-branded Tamron design. I owned the Tamron version (think I paid $450 used from KEH), and it was a decent performer, but I was never wowed by the images the way I am with my DA* 50-135. I traded the Tamron for the Pentax FA* 28-70, and I'm very glad I did, it's a magnificent lens. Pentax does not give out the * designation lightly. With the announcement of this stop-gap lens, I have the feeling it may be a long time before we see a D FA* standard zoom for a system that deserves it.
Under The Sun: Vote with your hard earned money folks. If you don't like the subscription model taking over don't buy into it. If Adobe makes money over this be assured subscription will be the thing of the future.
Is there any way I can click the like button twice? or ten times?
My K20D does that sometimes. If anyone is experiencing this problem, but doesn't want to send their camera in for service, try pressing the shutter button after the power switch is in the off position. I've gotten in a habit of doing it every time I turn off the camera.