Actually for me there are no real deal breakers. apart from, possibly that the A6000, will do what i need for half the price.
a good update Doesn't wipe the floor with the A6000 though, already good performer and which is fantastic value at the moment. I think the pro lens line up received the bulk of the development budget
Are the Video modes crop?
I don't think any camera manufactures are making cameras as good as Panasonic and Olympus are doing with MFT. for me its the best system out there, this looks another brilliant little camera. and I want one, The only downside is the performance of the optical rail, the lenses and sensor combination, Particularly Sony and Nikon APSC and for sure full frame are clearly ahead on DR, Noise and resolution. such that I end up wanting both a MFT and full frame system. Oh heck!
I find it increasing;y hard to pick the best cameras apart with these tests even compared to a Nikon 810, for noise it looks competitive. if a lille behind. given that 3200-6400 iso can handle quite dingy lighting, choice is mostly its coming down to system, use and personal preferences, not seeing sensor performance as an issue between APSC and full frame here, other that for those working consistently at the edge of the envelope for speed in challenging light
Alfa1: I am probably going to be alone in this thinking, but maybe DPR should not be recommending or giving awards to cameras at all but should instead just report the test results and leave it to the reader to decide. A beginner seeing a Gold award may sway them from looking at other cameras that may be better for them even if they are not technically "the best". After all the R in DPR stands for review not recommends.
And those or us rational enough to read the context of award, The full narrative of the review, and consider our own differing requirements Would be denied giggling at the silly fanboyism and at those insecure about thre own choices and brand loyalties trolling the comments section, Keep the awards they are a useful guide and add to the gaiety of the nation by the inevitable disputation
Frank_BR: When I see a camera like this, I can't help but think on why Nikon does not use a square 30 x 30mm sensor, which has diagonal equal to 42,4mm and so is perfectly compatible with the existing FX lenses. The use of a square sensor would eliminate all duplication of controls I see in this camera, would make the operation much simpler (and faster!), and certainly would decrease the size and weight.
Within the format 30 x 30mm there is a 24 x 30mm format, both in portrait and landscape orientation. The format 24 x 30mm is not much smaller than 24 x 36mm, which is often cropped in practice. In a camera for sport, the resolution is not so important, but if the sensor density is kept the same of the current sensor, the resolution of the 24 x 30mm format would be respectable 17.5 MP, which is greater, for example, than 16 MP of the Nikon D4. Finally, the square format has its own merits because many subjets benefit great from a square composition.
For novel geometries and mirror actions, you also have the sub (focusing) mirror to accommodate remember! frankly it is the engineering wonder of the the DSLR. That the whole assembly doesn't fly apart on activation surprises me. That it manages to flap about at 10 FPS and still focus follow for 400,000? expected actuations, Wow!
D3 cut in half showing the space constraints
attomole: I think its too crowded market now for this spec, Panasonic and Sony have more attractive offerings.As Snapchick said of the D500 , I am afraid it might be too little to late.
Wait for clearance prices and it will be a cracking little carry everywhere camera though!
But i just don't see that in this market, you would restrict yourself to those choices (i wouldn't) my needs are an everyday cary camera. Start with the Sony RX100 series, which tops reviews, but at least three Panasonic, Oly Pen at a stretch. all of which out-spec the X70, a camera that does not have the hipster factor of the sublime X100 series. Its not that its a bad choice, but too many buyers will be seduced by specs. i don't believe it has enough to cut it in the market, as a super portable photographic tool, likely its a good choice, I just don't think its one many will make it, old 16MP sensor, no viewfinder, fixed lens, no 4K, crap video.
I think its too crowded market now for this spec, Panasonic and Sony have more attractive offerings.As Snapchick said of the D500 , I am afraid it might be too little to late.
it would have to increase the size (hight) of the mirror accordingly, which would need to increase the depth of the mirror box, which it is unlikely to fit in the flange distance needed for f mount lenses,a mirrorless design however, it would work.
Unless you want crop, scorching autofocus tracking and 10fps for wildlife, in which case the D500 hits it for six over the clubhouse and under a bus. I think market has moved on since the D200/300. now with entry level full frame around 1000 Quid and lower, for me D610 /750 are better general purpose SLR's I am a D200 to D300 upgrader, but probably won't upgrade to a D500 (although il check see how it reviews)
aviationphotographer: Bigger question will be raised 4 and 8 years later. When D6/D7 comes out, will we have D500 successors? If so, how it will be called? (Hint: D600 and D700 already exist ;-)
I like the Canon approach, have a sub brand as a number and a versionthat is say 5D, MkIII
Therefore the D500 becomes the D100 MkIV which still leaves room for sufix intermediate versions, such at D300s would be the D100 MkIIIs
Hope all this enthusiasm turns into sales, Nikon have provided what a lot of Nikonians (self included) say they wanted, and a product that a subset of photographers need (twitchers fro example).
In the meantime since the D300's glory days the D610, and the D750 have come along. as a general purpose SLR i would have one off those unless you absolutely need 10FPS and a 1.5 crop,
attomole: Why is that strange looking man hiding in a bush taking photographs?(click on the image of the lens+camera)
I don't read the bloomin articles I just look at the pictures!, and add comments...
Why is that strange looking man hiding in a bush taking photographs?(click on the image of the lens+camera)
Wondering how so many issues with noise given Sony's recent barnstorming performance in this regard, will be good to see studio samples. for me this is almost perfect little camera, lens is a bit sticky outy for a pocketable camerera and a grip would improve tha handling and accommodate a bigger battery, but only OIS or IS and a touchscreen are inexcusable for the MK4 please.The one thing it is clear at the price the IQ has to be unequivocally top draw otherwise it will get kicked to death in the forums here QED.
Some very thought provoking choices in this series, good to see that DPR staff are not just box ticking feature lists or fangirling brands when selecting gear they approve.
Terry Cioni: Here is what I took away, your mileage will vary depending on your point of view.
1. Eye AF is 'astonishingly' good.
2. Low Light AF is better than the previous model by a long way.Some discussion about hybrid AF
3. 'Exceptional' resolution with high ISO.
4. Good to excellent JPG engine.
5. RAW Mode now has uncompressed which makes for excellent detailed files at the cost of file size and disk space, etc.
6. Changeable low pass filter - the first in the industry.
7. Excellent pop-up EVF (better implementation then RX100 series)
8. Battery is to small (but doesn't tell us about his set-up - airplane mode, etc)
9. Included is a USB outboard battery charger
10. 'Sluggish' (a very opened comment without much detail)(Complicate AF Modes, no stabilizer - distracting flashing ICON)
11. Sony Menus complaint - although Tile Menu option helps.
12. No touch screen
13. A few firmware updates away from 'Greatness'
14. Quirks out weighted by cameras abilities...
Err Spoiler alert!
ekaton: And how good are the alternatives? Exactly, there are none. Monster resolution & best in class FF sensor, splendid lens, jacket pocket size, EVF, tilt screen. If this is your thing, the RX1rII is the camera to get. Period. Is it perfect? Nah. But no camera is.
Conversely, if you can make do with very good as opposed to epic RAW picture quality and DOF flexibility, you can save a stack of dosh and get better handling
M Lammerse: WTF happened with the samples? Where are the high ISO beer shots in a dimly lit bar or pub?
agreed, who ever heard of a journalist who cant find the way to the pub? must be something to do with the expense policy.
Arkienkeli: This is not really relevant photography news, but anything which generates those SHOP NOW lists visible above means some added revenue for the site.
But might also turn away people looking for something worthwhile.
Which keeps people in jobs reviewing cameras and creating content for a website I find valuable , presumably the supermarket is not just going to hand over food for free to the writers because they know about cameras and stuff. I would also add this is a gear site for the most part and therefore it is an appropriate news item