Maybe the backlash has started as more people realize how much of social media is hype or faked:
chkproductions: Several years back I read an article where the most important factor in a consumer making a decision to purchase is from a "trusted friend", someone they personally know. I assume this influencer thing is an attempt to replicate this factor. But the lack of trust that people have with information and commentary outside of their immediate sphere of trusted relationships dooms any real lasting value of purchase manipulation through "influencers". Influencers is just the most current "technique" that will go away and be replaced - much like the technique of the moment in photography styles get replace with the next.
But the real issue to me is this - most everyday people have come to realize they just have too much "stuff" nowadays. They don't need anymore. How many microwave ovens do you really need in your lifetime? And any amount of "influence" isn't going to make you buy more.
One of the reasons I buy "so much stuff" like microwaves is because the microwave ovens don't last much longer than three years. None of my current home appliances has the nowhere near longevity that appliances had back in my parents' day. Electronic/computer components, now ubiquitous in so many things, seem especially fragile and prone to speedy aging.
Glen Barrington: I just don't trust Corel's commitment to support. Will this get released and we won't hear anything from Corel for two - four years until V4 gets released?
Please, Glen, I wasn't being sarcastic. I wouldn't be sarcastic to you, of all people on this forum. I enjoy your contributions & ideas. I am disagreeing with you, but without snark, I promise!
Re ACDSee, those updates you cite since 2011 are new versions that you have to purchase, so I wouldn't count them as "product support." Each version got one support upgrade, you say -- that's what I'd call "product support." You spelled out ASP's product support (free product upgrades) & provided a link. Not as frequent as Capture One upgrades, but clearly not an abandonment of the product.
So I'm sticking to my opinion, Glen. Hope we can leave it at agreeing to disagree & move on.
Do you use ASP Glen? I didn't think you did. How would you know how frequently it updates, I'm wondering? I have ASP, & ACDSee Pro, & Capture One Pro for Sony, using whichever gets me better results on certain photos.
"Corel needs to work harder...before I spend money on it." Ah but, you do very sophisticated work. You are better off with the more sophisticated programs like ACDSee anyway. ASP is better for people like me who don't have a deep understanding of post processing techniques. It's easy to grasp, quick, and you can grow into it. ASP is a good starter program.
Greg VdB: Here's an interesting perspective on the (over)usage of the Orton effect nowadays:https://photographylife.com/is-the-orton-effect-taking-over-landscape-photography#comment-209039(check the comments section as well for further opinions)
The Orton Effect is okay in small doses and done with a light hand. But with all the HDR, tone mapping, & the Orton effect that I see on the internet, I think we are turning our landscape photos into a bunch of Thomas Kinkaide paintings.
Corel has been releasing several service packs per year for ASP since Version 2 was launched in early 2014. Corel is good with upating PSP too. I think their updates occur more frequently than ACDSee's updates but not quite as frequently as C1Pro's .
Cameracist: Is the sharpening algorithm better and can the noise reduction tool remove luminance and chroma noise separately and more precisely?
re luminance & chroma noise, ASP3 doesn't handle then separately. But in the Get More tab, I could download Wavelet Denoise as a plug-in in a few seconds (amazingly fast), and it has separate luminance & chroma noise adjustments.
I also downloaded Wavelet Sharpen (both Wavelet plug-ins are free). It has more controls than ASP3's sharpen feature, but I don't have enough experience with it yet to say if it's better or not.
joe6pack: I used Aftershot Pro (ver 1) for quite a while. It is very fast and has some nice features that is beyond image processing (swap color, heal photo, etc). However, support is non-existence. They would issue an update and screw up the white balance. From what I heard, all the original (Bibble) developers have left and the product have basically outsourced to the lowest bidder. Aftershot Pro 2 is basically a bug fix release for ver 1. Lens database is a joke. They would list a bunch of lenses but choosing them does absolutely no corrections.
You are basing your opinion on Version 1? Then your opinion is outdated. Corel has been good about periodic updates & fixes since version 2 came out two years ago.Their new modular delivery system, downloading camera profiles in-app as they become available, sounds like a good idea.
This caught my eye as it was flashing along the DPR home page. So beautiful! Lovely lighting and tones and texture. One to be proud of, for sure!
Boss of Sony: I know these are slightly better than the average snapshot, but let's not get carried away. Photographers receive too much credit for simply pointing a tool and pressing a button. I will be arguing until the end of my days that documentary photography is not art. Real art involves skills formed over decades, fertile imagination, and hours, days or months spent on a single work.
Most people can't get photos as good as these by pointing a tool and pressing a button. It takes a keen sense of color, composition, lighting, and perhaps most of all, excellent anticipation for when to shoot. There are many photos by documentary photographers that I would consider art. You can probably call to mind the most famous ones from the 20th century easily because of their power and their beauty.
Bram de Mooij: Please stop looking at smartphones as being cameras. They are not. They are phones. OK, they are the reason for the decline of the cheap point and shoot cameras. That only shows me that these point and shoots were not really cameras either :-) They were just toys with limited use. Most obvious shortcomings of those toys was the lack of features like mp3 playing, navigation and making phone calls. Just kidding of course.
The fact that the iPhone is the most popular camera on Flickr is misleading in my view. Since the iPhones and other smartphones exist a lot of people that never owned a camera in the first place started to shoot images. They were never potential enthousiast compact camera buyers. Maybe they will be some day :-)
I think it's fantastic that the masses love their smartphones for picture taking. Easy, convenient , & fun to use, smartphones are now the first experience with photography for most people. More power to 'em.
I dont enjoy using a smartphone for photography. But my Sony a77ii has near field communication, so I can use my camera then transfer a picture to my phone via NFC in about 10 seconds. I can upload or text the pic to friends easily via the phone. The best of both worlds.
Modern technology is wonderful.
webrunner5: Unless you are a women with a purse, you are not going to have a camera with you 24/7 other than a Smartphone. Get over it people.
This is 2016, not 1996.
Well i'm woman with a purse. We make up a good percentage of the population, looks to me. I'm very interested in these cams as i hate taking pictures with a "smart"phone (a misnomer if there ever was one).
Douglas F Watt: And BTW,it's clear that Sony is concerned about having a reputation for small and light cameras with great sensors and a barely average zoom lens ecology. This lens kills two birds with one stone.
I don't see what the fuss is all about re big lens/little camera. Yes, it feels awkward at first, but you get used to supporting the lens with one hand and working the camera with the other. BTW, isn't that the technically correct way to hold a camera & lens anyway?
tkbslc: After using PSP X4 for a few years I decided I needed an upgrade. My wife wanted to try Photoshop Elements 13. I was shocked at how stripped down that is vs Corel PSP. When a deal popped up over the holidays, I jumped on a license of Corel PSP X8 Ultimate. It is so much better for less money! The Ultimate version even comes with a serviceable Lightroom alternative - Aftershot.
Joesixpack, I've not had white balance issues since Aftershot Pro 2 came out in spring of 2014 (Sony cameras). And ASP2 has my favorite Sony lens profile, whereas Capture One for Sony does not, an odd omission since my favorite lens is a widely popular standard (Sony Zeiss DT 18-80mm).
contadorfan: Yay! Drag n drop from the Organizer palatte is back!
Palette, I mean. Anyway, it's good to have the drag n drop capability again.
Yay! Drag n drop from the Organizer palatte is back!
This is truly gorgeous.
ogl: Paid for upgrade and found nothing new for me. The results from my K200D and K-5IIs made in with 8 version have no any difference.
Version 8 was buggy for me. It would hang on start up often. So far no problems with Version 9, and it seems to be a little faster & smoother operating.
Matt Random: Looks like they increased the 'Pro for Sony' price. It was $30 for v8 and is now $50 for v9.
@VirtualMirage -- I went from free Express to Pro 7 for $30, and iirc, Pro 8 came out shortly thereafter, and I got it for free. Maybe that's why C1 squeezed an extra $10 from me -- they figure I've gotten enough cheap deals ;)
@VirtualMirage -- They didn't offer it to me for $40, though I've had C1 Pro for Sony since version 7. Oh well, $50 for C1 Pro is still a fantastic deal.