mrmut: Something is seriously wrong with this camera. You simply can't have banding on the camera of this price point, and I don't really get it why it should be any banding there. It is not that 24MP is a big deal today.
Now, apart from this banding issue (which is a complete dealbreaker), the camera produces nice images of excellent color, altho a bit too noisy. It is weird to see that much noise at ISO160. The lens are excellent tho.
When you charge something for premium price, better be sure it is good before you ship it, or the community will kill you.
I don't get what is the deal with Leica and their camera lineup. They have SIX systems. Why?
HowaboutRAW - That is a decent display, how it is possible you can't see banding on other images? It is not there on all of them, but definitely is when conditions meet.
For example image 35, take a look at lower bottom door box. There is pronounced banding. If need be, increase shadows or exposure a bit. Etc. Banding not there on all images, but on some definitely is.
Is this sole camera defective, or entire series doesn't mean much. Especially if you need to go this lengths to justify shortcomings of an extremely expensive and nascent proprietary system.
HowaboutRAW - I too checked the RAWs, in ACR, and got the same results. What kind of monitor do you use? I use calibrated Adobe RGB screen.
HowaboutRAW - The banding can be seen on a number of images in this gallery, in uniform/darker areas. Image 13 is an obvious example, buy there is also 31, 35, 44, etc. Others commented on this. Banding is predominantly horizontal, but there is also vertical banding present.
Something is seriously wrong with this camera. You simply can't have banding on the camera of this price point, and I don't really get it why it should be any banding there. It is not that 24MP is a big deal today.
Adobe makes fine products, but this cloud stuff is nonsense for the user, especially security-wise. It is virtually impossible to have completely safe storage of anything online.
Just from memory, Facebook, Linked In, Apple, Yandex (not to mention NSA) were hacked with all of their security, and now I need to trust yet _another_ company that they will be safe. Oh, yes, I forgot Adobe too was hacked.
And not to mention software subscriptions - today becomes harder and harder to just have something to work with, without constantly updating it. Hell, I have Power Mac PowerPC machines over ten years old, running Motorola-Mac software 30 years old without a problem.
It is irritating to see that wouldn't be possible with today's stuff.
Stunning lens. I have had Contact distagon T* 25mm F2.8, and that was a great lens too, however this one is brilliant. Flare handling, OOF, SHARPNESS, etc. - WOW.
Winning photo is stunning! :-)
Brilliant video! Thanks! :-)
The photograph is nice; the price is but a detail.
This looks phenomenal.
What is the pixel-level quality? This image is easily of fine-art quality.
Sdaniella: user programmable pixel level multi-iso (multi-gain) full res color zone-system full frame Ultra-HDR (DR 22+ EV) stills (video) real time capture FF 40mp+ (adjustable + previewable LIVE with Canon Final Image Simulation) with IQ with clean finest detail and 'no noise' (NR that doesn't distort details) in extreme lowest light (below 0.01 lux) dual-pixel PDAF (full-frame) ... and throw in global shutter, too ... (sensor that runs much cooler than any todate; DiG!C #?) ... and up to 240fps+ (intended for HDR flexibility) ... H.265 for video 4k/8k and 2k/1080p ... and ... tri-mode evf-ovf hybrid VF with a top hinged modular VASS (vari-angle swivel screen) ... touch screen wifi remote ...
(\ /)( o.o) ---( hehehehe ... )o(")(")
as for medium format ... they'd have to create a whole bunch of EOS E-MF lenses ... unlikely (not impossible)
Made my day :-)
mrmut: This is rude. I would sue, and request reparations.
The same situation is if a remote IR trigger is set, which would result in a photo when an animal snap it. If not for a photographer, the image would not exist.
I came to think that the monkey had a hidden agenda.
Easycass: A simplified view...
Definition: To 'take' a photo means 'initiate the exposure', regardless of where the camera is mounted, what is in the frame, who or what is holding the camera, how much lugging it took to get there, how much expense, how much post-processing was done, who posted it, or where it was posted. Agreed?
Copyright: If a person initiates an exposure, whether a single shot, a self-timed, remote-released or trigger-released shot, creating a single exposure, sequence of exposures or video sequence, then, unless the person waives their rights in some written agreement, they own the copyright. Agreed?
Scenario 1: If a person is not holding the camera, but initiates the exposure(s) then copyright is theirs.
Scenario 2: If a person is not holding the camera, and does not initiate the exposure(s) then copyright is not theirs. If the exposure was initiated by another human, copyright belongs to that other person. If not initiated by a human, there is no copyright.
It is simple, really - the photographer did initiate the exposure, by giving the camera to monkey.
If he had handed a bomb to monkey, and monkey activated it, would anyone blame the monkey?
This is rude. I would sue, and request reparations.
NeilJones: 12mp is only really good for posting on Facebook. Looks like most photogs out there will be fine! Doh.
Good one. :-)
mrmut: Viewing war photos during exhibitions often makes me wander how in the world a photographer got out of that alive AND take a picture.
I am not sure if we should mourn war photographers, given that they accepted their faith in advance; mourning them seems a bit disrespectful. It makes much more sense just to appreciate photographer's work.
Apart from that, Afghanistan was not a very smart move for a woman photographer. Her presence there was insulting to locals on many levels (regardless of how that can be perceived by westerners - it is Afghans' country).
Just as an update - took a look at the documentary, but it didn't impress me. OTOH I personally met an talked extensively with some of the actual war photographers, all in all, it seemed to me that they all carry deep wounds that make them do what they do.
The color after calibration is unrealistic, especially with monks.
I have been using Xrite ACR calibrator and Color Checker while ago. - They are a joke. ACR has really bad profiles as is, and it is not that CC and Yrite will fix that. I have also tried whole load of other calibration software packages, and in short - if you want precision, you need color checked SG, ideal lighting, and very expensive profiling software. The common Color Checker useful just to very if the colors are (relatively) OK.
But there is a trick! - If you want precise colors easy, just ask the manufacturer what settings to tick in their in-house RAW developer. And voila! The only thing left is precision of white balance.
The best way to verify the color precision is:1. take a RAW photo of a colorful painting2. load and process the image on a calibrated screen3. put a painting one the side of a screen and light it well with light of correct temp
If the painting and the monitor image match, you are there.
A beautiful ode to consumerism, mixed with an enormous amount of pretentiousness (just take a look at their advert). What everyone would appreciate is that they made a Micro 43 body with CCD sensor with no AA filter. Or something in that line. This "T" is just nonsense. (Make a T camera, and not make it from Titanium at that price point. I would like to see them bragging about machining titanium.)
The comments below about how long this product is built to last is also very interesting. Any electronic or mechanical camera system can last however long you want it to, given you service it when needed. And when service is in Q, any professional system will do the same. My 11 year old Olympus E-1 is routinely sent to service, and all is fine. Try that with M8.
This is another idiotic product for rich people that don't know sh*t about photography. And yes, Hasselblad Luna immediately came to my mind. These two, and Leica X cameras all go hand-in-hand.
This is sick. If I haven't seen it, I wouldn't believe it.