What part of "Never buy a newly launched camera" some do not understand?
mpgxsvcd: Just when I think Canon can’t fall any further they amaze me again with their ineptitude.
I am going to just say it. Canon’s camera division will see a “Real Decline” in sales this year(2015). Their camera division will take a beating mainly because cameras like this won’t sell as well as they have in the past.
In 2016 they will scrap their entire compact camera line and only focus on DSLRs and enthusiast cameras. However, their sales will decline dramatically across the board that year because most of their diehard fans will realize that their money is better spent elsewhere.
In 2017 Canon will see sales so low that they scrap everything but their higher end DSLRs and Lenses. They will continue to produce cameras and lenses for Pro photographers but their brand name will not carry any weight with regular consumers.
After that Canon will end up a lot like Leica and Hasselblad. They will be insignificant to everyone except for the people with more money than sense.
I think they would be quite lucky to end up like Leica and Hasselblad, as the brand name doesn't carry any historical weight like those.
Someone has to tell Canon that the consumer camera market is pretty much dead with the advent of those things we call smartphones. But again, who am I to tell a company to stop wasting money?
This is one rare case where the airplanes are more of interest to me than the camera they are shot with...
EcoPix: These are modern day 5x4 and 10x8 cameras, in film speak. That part of the photographic market was always small, specialised, expensive, and mostly commercial. Nothing different, really.
Comparing an 80 mp camera with a Rodenstock lens to a Pentax SLR is like comparing a Deardorff 8x10 to a, well, Pentax SLR. Having said that, there is a yawning gap in today's camera line-up, waiting to be filled by a small medium format CMOS-fitted mirrorless body thin enough to take a range of capable tilt/swing lens adapters.
Such a body would be bread and butter for professional studio photographers and very many landscape photographers. With such a huge market, economies of scale would bring prices well down.
If Pentax can make their system SLR for $9000 with dedicated lens, then a mass-produced universal mirrorless MF body should be able to sell for $6000. And the Chinese engineers could do the rest with adapters for Hasselblad V, large format and all the other existing lenses out there.
A yawning gap indeed! And the first company to fill it will hit big...
I can't buy one, so doesn't interest me. Waiting for Sony or Fuji to come up with that fixed-lens medium-format mirror-less for under 5000 bucks. Might be a long wait :)
I have opted for the Sony RX1 instead of the Leica M9-P, I wouldn't buy many lenses for the Leica anyway, so the fixed lens was a solution for me. Boy ain't I glad I made that decision.
I like silver better ;)
Let's be reasonable and settle for 1000 EU plus shipping.
Now that IS interesting!
Eleson: Interesting dpr-talk on user interface. Aren't we all very conservative in terms of the look and feel? - Due to conservative users. Some of the cameras that have tried to change the approach have been more or less slaughtered and dismissed as cameras for non-photographers. No photog's in their right minds would invent the Sony QX series!
It reminds me of when japanese motorcycles was introduced in europe. It was by many not looked upon as real bikes as they didn't leak oil, you didn't need to know that much about servicing a bike. But it turned out that the new riders was more interested in riding that servicing.
Many iPhone shooters want better pictures, but couldn't care less about f-stop, (t-stop), and totally strange shutter speed options, and something called ISO (the gain setting of an OP-amp ??? plz ...) . Oh, and sensor sizes.- Some actually think that a 1" sensor is 1" in atleast one direction!
Today, it's a lot like only F1 drivers and servicemen review cars...
I'm sorry I was thinking he was serious. I never said knowing f-stops makes you a photographer, but not knowing them makes sure that you are not one. And I cannot agree that one can be a great photographer without knowing f-stops. It's like me calling myself an F1 driver just because I can drive a car. What I will agree on is that there are a lot of people out there who want to invest little time and effort to get the best results. Unfortunately, that will never happen. Yes, there are people who expect to buy expertise and knowledge in the box together with their camera, and with all due respect they can snap away all they want with their smartphones and call themselves photographers. I personally and politely don't agree.
FYI a stop is basically a step that allows you to take twice as much light in. And for shutter speed and ISO you can check the web that explains it in eloquent simplicity. It's not rocket science, but if you are adamant about not learning those and still want to call yourself a photographer, I wish you good luck. I'm really curious to know how you would print your pictures for an exhibition without knowing the sensor size. I can go on an on, but frankly, I'm surprised you take the trouble to post on this website while you cannot be troubled to learn the absolute basics of photography.
"Many iPhone shooters want better pictures, but couldn't care less about f-stop, (t-stop), and totally strange shutter speed options, and something called ISO (the gain setting of an OP-amp ??? plz ...) . Oh, and sensor sizes."
And these are exactly the people who are not photographers. And I cannot imagine how they want better pictures without knowing these. It's like me buying a canvas and oil paint set and then call myself a painter.
Finally some innovation... I am currently using 44100 fps with a line-scan camera, so this is still not suitable for my academic studies, but certainly a move in the right direction. Bravo!
Mark Banas: You've got the names of all the photographers to be interviewed, and of the industry reps expected to chatter on about their wares... but what of the all-important list of DPReview staff that will be appearing?Will Rishi expound on his ultra-macro work?Will Simon make an appearance in between meetings?Will Barney stroke his facial hair thoughtfully?Will Allison be the hand model for a 1Dx?And what about the coffee??!!?
I might just have to tune in...
I'm looking forward to Allison's hands...
Sir Canon: Cant they do this on the weekend.
I will watch 100 times... if it will it earn me a DSLR kit :)
SKPhoto12: I am astounded by all the requests for " a small, portable, mirrorless, rangefinder style" medium format camera!! It is an oxymoron. Why not ask about the continued trend to smaller, simpler, high quality, mirrorless bodies that produce IQ more and more like the big DSLR's? Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Samsung and Panasonic have been trendsetters and it would be so nice if Nikon and Canon would follow.
We will all see together. I guess you are happy with your smartphone and there's nothing wrong with that. Some people are not. Remember the days when sensors smaller than APS-C sold for thousands of dollars. Now they are in kids' hands.
"small portable body" is a very relative term. How small is good enough for you? A mirror less camera will be smaller than a mirror box camera. AFAIK there is no mirror less MF digital in the market right now, people are right to demand it (OP says he is astounded by the requests) and the first company to make it will score a great success.
I will have to politely disagree. MF is coming, like it or not. It is the future. As technology advances, larger sensors will fit into relatively smaller bodies, see RX1 with FF sensor. If you wish to go simpler and smaller, I can argue why not use your 41MP smartphone. I agree that Canikon are falling behind the technology race, but I differ in the reasons why. And you can get more and more like all you want, an APS-C will never be as good as FF, and FF will be never as good as MF. Your choice of APS-C may be the best for you, but don't try and justify it by saying that MF is a waste of time.
"current technological advancements"... I'm sorry, I don't see any.
Question to be asked to Fuji and Sony: MF mirror less-fixed lens...