I like silver better ;)
Let's be reasonable and settle for 1000 EU plus shipping.
Now that IS interesting!
Eleson: Interesting dpr-talk on user interface. Aren't we all very conservative in terms of the look and feel? - Due to conservative users. Some of the cameras that have tried to change the approach have been more or less slaughtered and dismissed as cameras for non-photographers. No photog's in their right minds would invent the Sony QX series!
It reminds me of when japanese motorcycles was introduced in europe. It was by many not looked upon as real bikes as they didn't leak oil, you didn't need to know that much about servicing a bike. But it turned out that the new riders was more interested in riding that servicing.
Many iPhone shooters want better pictures, but couldn't care less about f-stop, (t-stop), and totally strange shutter speed options, and something called ISO (the gain setting of an OP-amp ??? plz ...) . Oh, and sensor sizes.- Some actually think that a 1" sensor is 1" in atleast one direction!
Today, it's a lot like only F1 drivers and servicemen review cars...
I'm sorry I was thinking he was serious. I never said knowing f-stops makes you a photographer, but not knowing them makes sure that you are not one. And I cannot agree that one can be a great photographer without knowing f-stops. It's like me calling myself an F1 driver just because I can drive a car. What I will agree on is that there are a lot of people out there who want to invest little time and effort to get the best results. Unfortunately, that will never happen. Yes, there are people who expect to buy expertise and knowledge in the box together with their camera, and with all due respect they can snap away all they want with their smartphones and call themselves photographers. I personally and politely don't agree.
FYI a stop is basically a step that allows you to take twice as much light in. And for shutter speed and ISO you can check the web that explains it in eloquent simplicity. It's not rocket science, but if you are adamant about not learning those and still want to call yourself a photographer, I wish you good luck. I'm really curious to know how you would print your pictures for an exhibition without knowing the sensor size. I can go on an on, but frankly, I'm surprised you take the trouble to post on this website while you cannot be troubled to learn the absolute basics of photography.
"Many iPhone shooters want better pictures, but couldn't care less about f-stop, (t-stop), and totally strange shutter speed options, and something called ISO (the gain setting of an OP-amp ??? plz ...) . Oh, and sensor sizes."
And these are exactly the people who are not photographers. And I cannot imagine how they want better pictures without knowing these. It's like me buying a canvas and oil paint set and then call myself a painter.
Finally some innovation... I am currently using 44100 fps with a line-scan camera, so this is still not suitable for my academic studies, but certainly a move in the right direction. Bravo!
Mark Banas: You've got the names of all the photographers to be interviewed, and of the industry reps expected to chatter on about their wares... but what of the all-important list of DPReview staff that will be appearing?Will Rishi expound on his ultra-macro work?Will Simon make an appearance in between meetings?Will Barney stroke his facial hair thoughtfully?Will Allison be the hand model for a 1Dx?And what about the coffee??!!?
I might just have to tune in...
I'm looking forward to Allison's hands...
Sir Canon: Cant they do this on the weekend.
I will watch 100 times... if it will it earn me a DSLR kit :)
SKPhoto12: I am astounded by all the requests for " a small, portable, mirrorless, rangefinder style" medium format camera!! It is an oxymoron. Why not ask about the continued trend to smaller, simpler, high quality, mirrorless bodies that produce IQ more and more like the big DSLR's? Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Samsung and Panasonic have been trendsetters and it would be so nice if Nikon and Canon would follow.
We will all see together. I guess you are happy with your smartphone and there's nothing wrong with that. Some people are not. Remember the days when sensors smaller than APS-C sold for thousands of dollars. Now they are in kids' hands.
"small portable body" is a very relative term. How small is good enough for you? A mirror less camera will be smaller than a mirror box camera. AFAIK there is no mirror less MF digital in the market right now, people are right to demand it (OP says he is astounded by the requests) and the first company to make it will score a great success.
I will have to politely disagree. MF is coming, like it or not. It is the future. As technology advances, larger sensors will fit into relatively smaller bodies, see RX1 with FF sensor. If you wish to go simpler and smaller, I can argue why not use your 41MP smartphone. I agree that Canikon are falling behind the technology race, but I differ in the reasons why. And you can get more and more like all you want, an APS-C will never be as good as FF, and FF will be never as good as MF. Your choice of APS-C may be the best for you, but don't try and justify it by saying that MF is a waste of time.
"current technological advancements"... I'm sorry, I don't see any.
Question to be asked to Fuji and Sony: MF mirror less-fixed lens...
It's impossible to open the site even though the clock has run down to zero, therefore we see impossible...
A webpage that is impossible to access... original idea, Canon...
Ramesh: It was mentioned in "Canon Rumors" that the campaign originated in following IP addresses 184.108.40.206 , 220.127.116.11,both of which are hosted on the same server as Phaseone.com!. Probably canon is entering MF by buying Phase One!
There are rumors since God knows when about Canon entering MF and while I would love to have that to be the case, I highly doubt it.
fnrlampa: Canon is goin to annouce that they are goin into the washing machine business
Might do well for them too :)
DPhotoWriter: Medium format compact mirrorless camera - woot
I wish it, but I don't expect it :(
ManuelVilardeMacedo: I voted "full frame or nothing", though I don't really appreciate the implication of fanaticism that sentence contains. Having used 4/3 for years and dipped a toe or two in APS-C, and having a substancial experience with the real full frame (135 film), I believe full frame is the only way for digital to go. It's better at everything compared to smaller formats. As demand increases, chances are we'll see truly affordable full frame systems very soon. Of course one could go over the top and vote for medium format, but are our computers up to handling such large files? Full frame is actually more sensible than it appears to 1", 4/3 and APS-C users - as long as one doesn't go bananas and buys 36 MP cameras.Some months ago I had the chance to sort a Nikon Df. I fell in love even before holding it. It's such a capable camera! I wish people would look at it without prejudice.
Look! A user posted an opinion! Let's burn him at the stake...
Rick Knepper: I voted for medium format. I would think anyone who has inspected a RAW from this format in recent years and are not blind would have to admit that the IQ is unparalleled by any sensor smaller. Of course, there are many valid reasons to reject MF: price & other costs, capabilities such as high ISO, fps, or portability, and the poor man's complaint: file size.
That makes two of us... while many seems to disagree, affordable relatively compact 50MP fixed-lens camera would be a killer. I think they can build it, just holding it back until they can sell more of their conventional cameras.
alkaabi: i beg to differ; I don't see what is so significant in this show. all old technology in new cases. We where expecting big news; such as new Medium format camera from sony with fixed lens. or new advancement in lens technology or size. or new Leica M (yeh yeh there was new Ms that no one will buy). I mean, nothing, zilch, just another show that adds nothing.
True, I don't like their IQ enough. And what should I use within a price range of less than 5000 USD, might I ask? I think you assume everybody can cash out 10000 on a camera. So many of the users ARE forced to buy APS-C or FF. If Sony or Fuji could come up with an affordable mirror less fixed lens camera THAT would be big news. I feel strange I have to explain it, it's not so hard to understand.