Lawrencew: Would the new EOS M2 with EF-M 22mm fit the bill as your "perfect street shooter", if Canon would sell it outside of Asia?
It shares many of features of the SL1 including the same hybrid sensor, albeit in mirrorless form.
If you want a 'discrete' street shooter, then the SL1 is still large and indiscrete in comparison.
Or is it the lack of OVF and liveview only focusing that still puts you off an M2?
Shawn - Again, why be stuck with a mirror box design, when there are so many alternate options? Lumix, Oly, Sony, Sansung, Fuji etc. You can shrink the body as much as you want except the mirror box and flange distance, and lenses will be ever the same big ones designed for EF or EF-S mounts...its a losing battle. Look at the experiments Sony had to do before what seems like settling down on one type of mount to forward.
David Hurt: EF 22mm, NO ef-s lenses for me. I am thinking of renting the SL1 & pairing it up with my 17-40L lens & my 24-105.
Incorrect Shawn, it would only make the lens bigger to fit a FF imaging circle. Canon should designn one specfically for APS-C. Honestly a GM1 with a 17mm Lumix pancake all day long...
Beat Traveller: Never wanted a lens so badly based on sample photos.
Agree Ian, that's what has kept me holding on to the 50D still, 60D was a pass, 70D may be the ticket without the mag alloy build, may be 7D Mark II. 50D sensor is outdated by today's standards by a mile, but serves the purposes pretty well if you stay within 1600 ISO. The Magic Lantern firmware added video to it, is also cool. Still may take the call shortly...
Battersea: Great to see London photos again. Seems to be a really nice lens.
Yes, Seattle was getting too dull and boring honestly! Sorry nothing against Seattlers...
+1 to that, seriously sharp, makes me want to abandon the Canon ship and jump !!
Sorry to post this one here. DPR - Came across and interesting booster device for pop up flashes for entry level DSLR made by ExpoImaging.
Rogue Safari DSLR Pop-up Flash Booster
Can you do a quick review of the same as part of your accessories review? Seems like a no-brainer for $35 if this thing really works as claimed by the manufacturer.
Nice, cute, way too small sensor. Waiting for Lumix to launch their next iteration of FZ200 with 1/1.7 size sensor with 24x zoom and 2.8 aperture.
Why will not one use a GF6 or G6 with WiFi, NFC and full camera control using a mile device for more or less the same price. Still have full fledged interchangeable lens camera? What is new or innovative in this, other than removing all the ergonomic parts of a camera and just retaining the lens and sensor?
DP Review - Make this these 11th in the list of Back to the future: ten one-of-a-kind cameras from the 21st century !
Innovative, Niche, but the initial 'soda pop' enthusiasm will fizzle away soon.
May be use this as a spy camera somewhere!!
DPR - Give it to us straight. Is the Canon Dual Pixel AF equal or faster than latest Oly (EM-5, EP-5) or Panny (GH3, GX7) cameras. Simple question, need a simple answer. If no, what needs to be improved. If yes, would consider an upgrade within Canon instead on changing systems.
Boissez: The functionality (lightning toggle/image resizing) is brilliant! However I would like the scene to have some more color in it - especially colored textures/fabrics as it can really punish poor de-bayering and heavy-handed NR.
I agree the "Test Scene" is too dull. Hope you guys are taking into consideration the ability to capture the maximum dynamic range, colors, B&Ws possible in a controlled environment and the Test Scene pics are chosen accordingly. Honestly the Photo of Photos (Faces) is very dull and compromised already....DPR please rethink your Beta before finalizing as hundreds of Cameras' fate is based on what scene you use for critical reviews
yabokkie: to my eyes, GX7 doesn't have better noise than Pana's previous sensor in E-M5, though Oly may cook raw files more than Pana.
Guess you have no clue what you are talking about..."whole business based on cheating" - what the hell that is supposed to mean?!!
Close call, All 3, except RX100II (for the sensor size) are good. But there is now no real advantage of APS-C compared to M43. Oly EP5 still looks warmer and slightly sharper of all. But that's down to processing. Anything more, we are just 'nitpicking' here. All these camera's have come a long way even compared to the D200, D300, 40D & 50D (that I still have). Did they not take good Pics? I am not comparing to Full Frame at all.
I am sold finally. I was holding out for long as I have a significant investment in Canon already for an amateur hobbyist. So it was never a real need to change to a different system. But the convenience of M43 and great design and IQ of GX7 has me convinced to have this as another alternative to lugging the heavy DSLR kit. I always liked the L1, LC1 era cameras from Lumix. Panny finally has gone back to the rugged, semi-retro design - I like it.
expressivecanvas: Finally... a viewfinder! That alone is worth rewarding Panasonic with a sale!
MarkInSF - Excellent comments. Panny offers buyers with great choices starting from GF6, G6, GX7 and GH3...nothing wrong with it. Until Canon introduced 70D, the new 650D Rebel had better features than 60D.
Panasonicus: $1000 body only may be a deal breaker for many. When you consider the price of a G3 or G5 at less than half that amount or the latest G6 with the upgraded kit lens at $799 you have to wonder if the GX7 will see a big price drop early on.
With IBIS it looks like Panasonic may phase out in-lens stabilisation as it adds to cost, size and weight. The ability to use Olympus glass is a big plus and the built-in EVF is a massive advantage. I have never figured out why people buy a GF camera when, for the same money, you can buy a G series with built-in EVF.
The GX7 is heavier and larger than my G3 but not by much and apart from the high price this looks like the best product Panasonic have come up with to date. I may buy one if the price drops to around $699. By the way, I am in the UK and expect the usual rip-off pricing (probably 80% more) will apply making a US purchase a 100% certainty.
Prices would come down, but tell me which Canon / Nikon offering with Magnesium Alloy body, built in EVF, Titlable LCD, pro level external controls, NFC & WiFi comes close to this. Yes for this price Pany could have possibly offered some weather sealing...but nonetheless it is a good entry price !
backayonder: At last a viewfinder.
A tiltable, high quality 2.4M dots view finder with high refresh rate ! Killer
UnicornNz: It looks like Panasonic has come a long way since the G1, which was around the time of the Canon 450D/500D. Has Canon advanced it's product line as much?
Well, a lot of them did not have much choice than continue with the big 2 after investing so much into their systems. But for the new buyers without any legacy, not anymore. Take a look at the European and Japanese market stats for mirror-less DSLMs, they are almost 50% this year indicating a market gain in a relatively short span of less than 5 years...
Marla2008: Absolutely, sensor size does matter, a lot ! I do think there is a need for compact, but ONLY equipped with an APS-C chip. Anything below that don't cut it, at least for what I want. For you guys never heard of Aptina, have you lived under a rock, lol ?
Yes, but not exactly when it comes to keeping the overall size smaller. APS-C would never develop lenses that are any smaller than what is currently available. It is just the function of Sensor size and the image dia and hence the lens size required to cover it. That's where u3 and 1" sensors hit the Sweet spot. If now Aptina can focus on improving the performance of these to what current Full Frame and APS-C can do that would be great. BTW I don't think any of the readers here needed to be told that Sensor size is important....like stating the obvious....
zodiacfml: Hey Oly and Panny, why not a MFT sensor on a fixed lens compact? Remove the AA filter while you're at it.
Agree and guess Panny and Oly would soon come up with one. But with a body like the GX1, GX7 or even GF6 and a 14 or 20 mm Pancake you have one closer to what would be a fixed lens compact with u3 sensor....? just don't change lenses that all !!