Miki Nemeth: When I saw that DPReview gave such a high score to a camera that I evaluated to be mediocre, I was surprised but I thought I am not an expert at all. Then I've just read Behiri's review www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-lx-100/ and I think I was a bit right. I think the LX100 cannot come even close to Sony's RX100R3.
Mediocore? Really! Have you even touched this, leave alone use it? Rogerv1's comment above is spot on. No camera is perfect, but this one comes close, may or may not beat RXIII, does not matter, but certainly not medicore this one... Pls do not get swayed by that iodiot Behri's stupid review.
Anyone watch the video? The Panasonic guy Matt Fraser? Calls the sensor as "micro four thirds" . huh! Thought he should know better. Does not matter in getting the point across, but still an employee and spokesperson should know better and that too from the company that pioneered four thirds standards.
If you use the comparator tool, Seems like Pany's own FZ1000 outscores, albeit marginally, the LX100 in 6 of the critical parameters, IQ, JPEG and RAW, Optics, Performance and Video. Being close to the same 'class' of camera, would ypu say FZ1000 is slightly better than LX100? Only on the above parameters.
Drofnad: I find it puzzling to read "Excellent stills image quality - especially in Raw" and yet see of the bar-graphed qualities that IQ is the farthest from Excellent of all save for Value (Raw better than JPEG, slightly) !?
Very much eh! I too noticed and some kind of opposite of what you would expect to see a bar indicating or qualifying the conclusion statement...BTW if you use the comparator tool. Seems like Pany's own FZ1000 outscroes LX100 in 6 of the critical parameters, IQ, JPEG and RAW, Optics, Performance and Video....go figure!
Auricom: SO, ... The Cannon folks will dare to compare this to Sony RX100 line KNOWING Cannon decided to go with Sony's own Chip?! This is going to get interesting hearing all the fanboi's claim how their Cannon's if FAR SUPERIOR to Sony's lmao
Cannon? Three times...
286 comments on Hassie's facility closing?! Also shows underlying desire of this community that Hassie could have done better with their time in last 3 years than these hideous, outrageously priced rebadges.
Mike FL: This Re-badged DSC-RX100 look like a bad DIY product.
Oops! Those exposed screws, sure they drilled holes on the body to fit the hideous handgrip...
jaygeephoto: I guess that's what a head on collision between a camera and a tree looks like.
Wow, finally this came. Was rather getting impatient and poof, the announcement is made. Was worrying about the surplus $50k lying in my car glovebox waiting to be spent wisely. This had to be the 'golden' moment! Cyrus you made my day thank you so much. You should consider changing your name to 'Goldsmith', you are a genius!
But wait, I had to hold off on my decision at the last minute cos there aint a SD card and it aint gold plated either..! Bummer! My day is ruined.
Maxmolly7: Honest & straight report? I question that."7D I color is like puke ... and AF speed is slow"?I do not know what her skills and background are but to compare a 7D I with a 5D III is a bit unfair! May be the lady is just too young...?At the time of release the 7D I was a big step up from the 5D II in many areas.The only way I can think of in terms of a slow AF is via the Liveview mode.The normal AF was very fast and accurate, spot AF and AF-tracking worked wonders for me.
I happy to read that the 7D II seems to show good improvements in the weak areas, especially noise, although no magical wonders were performed after 5 years by Canon.
She might not even have graduated school in 2009, LOL.
Steve Balcombe: It's really good to read the actual thoughts of an actual working pro. But I'm afraid her reaction mostly comes across as "Ew, a crop camera".
The first big giveaway was "I like knowing that my lenses are true to their focal length", which is just ridiculous and betrays a complete lack of understanding. I wonder what she did before the 1Dx (i.e. only 3 years ago), when sports professionals routinely used the 1.3x crop 1D MkIV?
Then there is this emphasis on the voice memo feature which is apparently a deal-breaker for her. I can understand how useful it is. Yet she speaks highly of the 5D3 *which has no voice memo feature".
And she lists "no built-in wifi" in her Cons, but no 1-series or 5D has that either.
Fine, these are the observations of a working professional photographer and valuable as such. But I think she decided she didn't like it because it's not a "professional" body in the traditional sense, then she looked for reasons to justify that.
I absolutely agree and second that Steve Balcombe. The bias that she is reviewing a cropped sensor camera is clear from word go. So for me this is just an useless revoew and DPR wasted their time providing vlauable online real estate on this article.
Mongrel: No way I'm reading 310 posts to see if it's been stated (I'm almost sure it has though...) but...
A simple comparison of $1800 for a 7D II vs $6800 for a 1Dx will put the review in perspective.
"For $1800 the 7D II is one helluva a camera and can (obviously) get the shot even at the professional level."
Anything else mentioned that is considered a "problem" can easily be solved by the purchase of a 1Dx.
Agree, her review and negative comment that this is a APS-C does not make sense as obviously it is what it is. This format does have its advantages for certain sports especially wildlife and prosumer photographers. Also to say the original 7D had not so good build quality is not true, it is a very solid camera, MkII they improved the sealings...
Lou54: No Wi-Fi and no touchscreen is disappointing. Otherwise some really great improvements.
Zeisschen, will give you the benefit of doubt if you have not used a good touch to focus screen. See the Pany implementations on the G and Gh series, you will appreciate it. i am not advocating touch for everything, but then there is a definitie advantage and speed for certain things and improving your photography workflow. Just look at your phone, is it not touchscreen? Once i thought I could never te so fast on a touch like I could do it ona Blackberry qwerty, but this post using an iDevice took me 30 seconds!
EduardoKleinFichtner: Elegant and amazing! If you do not like, do not buy. But do not complain, please. Leica is Leica.
@howaboutRAW, that was my opinion and I dont want to get into the topic of companies that failed to innovate going down....some take longer, some sooner. guess you forgot Kodak
Nice, some really good stuff from the likes of Pany, Sony and Fuji , Oly who are daring to innovate. I still wonder how long the big two will keep "milking" their customers with incremental updates and not truly innovating. i am a Canon user myself, but if it was not for the investments made already over 5K and I am a hobbyist, only thing preventing me to make the switch is my own inertia, sell the curent gear put together a new system etc. but always been amazed and lured to what Sony and Panasoic is doing in this place.
BTW, good review DPR though I almost did not care if GH4 was reviewed already or not.,.so late in getting this out.
Hear some good initial reviews, but to sustain in business the company needs to improve 2 things, one is reliability which I read is very poor and two customer service, which again I hear is horrific. Folks cant sit with a $1500 broken toy in 2 months. DJI will go down as one of those 'also could have....' Companies if they do not improve on their quality and services.
SulfurousBeast: Anyone think "made in china" LX100 is a dampener or even a deal breaker? Sort of this premium compact losing its cachet? Wonder where the Typ109 is made, dont want a made in China Leica, that's me though... But guess a lot of you out there thnking along the same lines...?
Cainn24, that's precisely my point, my disclaimer was made in China is or need not be inferior quality. There are too many stuff at home that is made in China. But if you believe buying decisions are as much about 'feelings' (emotional) as much as it is logical, would the potential buyers of the Leica version of this camera be turned off if it was made in China?. I certain is one. That's all I was asking. That's how people 'attach' value to things. To throw in another example would be Swiss watch say TAG, made in China :-) , with Leica I see it that way than with Panasonic even if every single component was the same inside,
I did read the rant.... But would like to clarify my point was not implying or debating China made is inferior quality, but rather if perception of the buyer is the reality, will this impact LX100 sales or even if it did not, it is like the back of mind feeling 'made in china' that one might have. Personally I am looking at the Leica version and it is a no go if it is made in China.
Anyone think "made in china" LX100 is a dampener or even a deal breaker? Sort of this premium compact losing its cachet? Wonder where the Typ109 is made, dont want a made in China Leica, that's me though... But guess a lot of you out there thnking along the same lines...?
tarsus: Of course the LCD on the Canon GX7 does not tilt for anything other than selfies, that will be in version 2. Of course there is no EVF, that will be in version 3. After which you will have spent $2,100 on a compact camera. Note the progression of the RX series. You will have spent $2,400 to get the camera you want. The Canon G1X series is now at $1600 and counting. The next version with an EVF will put buyers at $2400. Of course the LCD on the Panasonic LX100 doesn't tilt because, well, you get the idea. I know they have to make money to stay in business, but my goodness we are seriously manipulated into spending a lot of money that I feel does not justify what you ultimately get. Smart marketing,? yes. Good for consumers,? no. By the time you get the LX100 you want, you will have spent $2700 for the tilt screen and a slightly longer lens. My only concession is the G1X bought used to shoot silently on quiet venues. Not one more step up from me.
Let's agree to disagree. Sometimes that's how the evolution and refinements of the cameras are. Would you not use your 1D or any full frame cos it does not have a tilting LCD? As another analogy, what about the junk the big 3 US car companies were selling to us untile few years ago for decades? Did we not drive that Chevy till it rusted and crumbled or one of the Ford clunkers? Way more money than a camera. Oh BTW, Apple is launching the ipad air2 on 16th Oct just when Many thought they had the latest and greatest...that's how it goes...